20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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Esteban Sanchez
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Sorry but i think thats a fake Doctor rec i hope you didnt pay too much for it. Source calnorml.org...SB420 Guidelines: Only 6 plants can be cultivated per patient and 8 ounces of dry marijuana. There is no such thing as a 99 plant rec. Why does a doctor have the right to give permission to start a massive grow op?? You need to sign agreements with 16 patients with you as their caregiver. Or get written permission from a collective with 16+ recs active. And just because your under 99 plants doesnt mean you cant get 5+ years from the feds.
FYI there are many doctors running around LA (im in the valley) that have no idea what they are talking about and/or not even doctors. All recs have a picture of ur Cali drivers license.
I dont mean to come across like a dick, please correct me if im wrong. Im just looking out for a fellow local grower
FYI there are many doctors running around LA (im in the valley) that have no idea what they are talking about and/or not even doctors. All recs have a picture of ur Cali drivers license.
I dont mean to come across like a dick, please correct me if im wrong. Im just looking out for a fellow local grower
collective gardener
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Sorry but i think thats a fake Doctor rec i hope you didnt pay too much for it. Source calnorml.org...SB420 Guidelines: Only 6 plants can be cultivated per patient and 8 ounces of dry marijuana. There is no such thing as a 99 plant rec. Why does a doctor have the right to give permission to start a massive grow op?? You need to sign agreements with 16 patients with you as their caregiver. Or get written permission from a collective with 16+ recs active. And just because your under 99 plants doesnt mean you cant get 5+ years from the feds.
FYI there are many doctors running around LA (im in the valley) that have no idea what they are talking about and/or not even doctors. All recs have a picture of ur Cali drivers license.
I dont mean to come across like a dick, please correct me if im wrong. Im just looking out for a fellow local grower
Thank you for your concern. I assure you that the rec is real. I also pay a lawyer alot of money to keep us legal. A rec over the 6/12 is called an SB420 excemption. In 2008 the California Supreme Court decided that it was unconstitutional to assign a specific limit to the amount of medication a patient may need. In 2010 the Supreme Court affirmed that action. The true guidlines for the amount that can be grown is an amount that is proportionate to a patients needs.
We also operate a legal collective association. We are not caregivers...that's a different deal, altogether. Many of our collective's members also have 99 plant recs. The difference between a collective and a caregiver is that myself and a group of people grow our medication together, much like a community garden. A caregiver is one person growing for another, or procuring medication for another.
The reason we choose to stay under 99 plants is to avoid the 5 year mandatory minimum with the feds. However, the feds are being fairly cool with med states, lately. Of course, if you ahave a 5,000 plant grow going they would get involved for sure. We could comfortably under current state law grow quite a bit more than 99 plants.
I hope that cleared things up. I'd rather not spend time here discusing legal issues.
onepointsixoneeight
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Hey, first post. Just wanted to say your shit looks AMAZING and I applaud your workmanship and detail. Looking forward to gaining knowledge from this board as SWIM has similar plans as to what is going on here.
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TheLastWood
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Why does everyone think there a lawyer? This is a marijuana growin website and thread. There is a designated forum for legal talk. If he's not worried about it stfu already.
collective gardener
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Sorry, I don't do the "friends" thing. It's nothing personal; I have no "friends" in my profile , but I'd like to think I have a few here on the board. I'll be happy to answer questions on the board, or a PM if it isn't a request to commit a crime. Also, the "SWIM" thing is for drug boards. I've seen SWIM used on boards where people are discussing doing meth and shit. I'd like to think that this great group of growers is above that shit. Anyways, I don't mean to give you a hard time. Welcome aboard and tell us about your plans. There's a ton very tallented folks here...many of whom would be glad to give you any help you need with your proposed grow.
Wolverine97
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Just make sure to get the Super Spreader too!
collective gardener
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I have a couple Super Spreaders right now for our 2 adjut a wings. We're not using them. The light without them is actually stronger on the edges than right under the bulb. That's the amazing thing about these reflectors. I used the reflectors on a closet grow with great success. I think when you are wide open with plenty of cooling power and buffering you can get by without them.
Either way, IMHO these are, and always have been, the best reflector made. If they only air cooled them. I have threatened for years to do a 20 light adjust a wing grow with 2 - 5 ton AC units.
ENDLSCYCLE
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And I bumped you to four!!!!!LOL
collective gardener
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hey collective gardener
you just got the verde bump to 3 rep bars
How are you liking RIU?
Thanks, Verde. I'm embarrassed to admit, though, I don't know what the "reps" and "bars" mean. Could you please explain.
I'm really enjoying RIU. What a great group of people. It's rare to find such a generous, interesting, and caring bunch in one room. I think that great things happen here. I've been growing for a LONG time, yet learn something every single time I log on here.
Verde, I assume you're associated with the site beyond a member level? What can I do to help support this thing. I feel like I've finally found a home...a place that I can freely talk about things that I had to keep secret for over 20 years. It's like a flood has opened up from within me, and I don't want to lose it. Many of us come from a time when, if you wanted to continue growing, you had to keep your mouth shut...always. It's sadly ironic in that growing is something that begs to be talked about and openly shared.
OK...sorry for being corny. Please tell me what I can do to help make sure RIU will always be there when I log on.
Sr. Verde
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Hey man, no I'm just a member
REPs are points, as in reputation.. if someone likes a post you made, they can +rep you, or add a rep point.... It's the little star symbol next to "journal this post", under every post. The more rep you have, the more rep you give every time you give + rep someone. The little green bars under your username shows how much rep you have, but I think only like 5 or 6 bars is the max it gets to..
I think rollitup.org is doing okay, but you can PM the moderator/site owner, 'rollitup' (without the quotes) if you want to try to help out with whatever..
collective gardener
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Hey man, no I'm just a member
REPs are points, as in reputation.. if someone likes a post you made, they can +rep you, or add a rep point.... It's the little star symbol next to "journal this post", under every post. The more rep you have, the more rep you give every time you give + rep someone. The little green bars under your username shows how much rep you have, but I think only like 5 or 6 bars is the max it gets to..
I think rollitup.org is doing okay, but you can PM the moderator/site owner, 'rollitup' (without the quotes) if you want to try to help out with whatever..
Thanks Verde. I'll have to go back through some of fav posts and give them their credit.
collective gardener
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no problem man keep up the good work
my own 4 tangerine dreams are doing just dandy at day 19 from lights on
Right on Verde. Toss us a pic to keep the Bubbas company.
TheLastWood
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I know what you mean gardener. For years our people have been oppressed. Lol, I have a dream that one day we can all grow cannabis in out front yards without fear of prosecution. (Wonder if that will make me an icon/martyr)
It is sad, I always wondered why my grandma loved her gardening so much, maybe she passed it on to me. Its so peaceful. Brings me closer to god. So much love created, even if for plants. I wonder if I could say I have a compulsion or addiction to growing pot if I could ever get off the hook. Shit if you can get away with murder for "insanity"
It is sad, I always wondered why my grandma loved her gardening so much, maybe she passed it on to me. Its so peaceful. Brings me closer to god. So much love created, even if for plants. I wonder if I could say I have a compulsion or addiction to growing pot if I could ever get off the hook. Shit if you can get away with murder for "insanity"
Luger187
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hey CG, u guys use a big res with a hose attached right? when u water, do u base the amount of water on sight(seeing that the plant has enough water), or do u turn the hose wand on for a certain number of seconds? ive seen people do both. if its the latter, how do u keep the pressure constant, so the flow rate is always constant too? without the same pressure and water flow in the hose, the later plants would get less water. this is because the res is less full and therefore less pressure
i was talking to my friend about this and i thought i remembered helper D using a hose wand in a pic. so i thought id ask here
i was talking to my friend about this and i thought i remembered helper D using a hose wand in a pic. so i thought id ask here
onepointsixoneeight
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No worries! Thanks for the welcome and congrats so far on what you've accomplished.
I use SWIM out of habit... anonymity is key, and I've been involved in a few "operations" that required the code word
Anyway, the plan is to simply grow the best possible product with the most possible efficiency. I have been reading and reading and reading about what is needed to start an operation in CA... It honestly seems daunting, especially with the possibility of raids still being present. I understand that you're doing this to provide sick patients with medicine, and I'm totally on board with that but money makes the world go round. Period. My question is this... being that the risk of a "kick door" still exists, why not grow somewhere where you can maximize profits? Basically, what I've gathered from the last thirty pages or so is "we're safe, but the feds can come in and take everything anytime they want." This seems counterintuitive... asinine in a sense... not for the one growing, just the general principle.
If you live in CA and are already there, cool, but for someone like me, who is not in CA, it still seems the legal landscape is up in the air enough to not justify coming to CA to grow.
I'm trying to secure my future as I've learned that my science degree is meaningless unless I want to do 5 more years of loans, school and bullshit... The solution: grow.
Anyway, your setup is PHENOMENAL. I am wondering, though, is 12,000 watts in that small of an area (8'x24') overkill? Will you experiment with using less light and calculating yields to see if the extra light is worth it? Are you projecting 2g's/watt? If so, how much CO2 are you using?
Looking forward to cramming my brain with more knowledge. Great board you guys got here.
