TheLastWood
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Make sure you drink lots of K and P verde. I'm sure you will be a big beautiful flower
Gardener you must get such a sense of satisfaction goin to work everyday.
20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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Gardener you must get such a sense of satisfaction goin to work everyday.
collective gardener
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Well, we're getting close to harvest. April 5 is the magic date. Helper D and I need to build an offsite drying/curing facility. There's just no way I'm going to leave finished buds at the op. All the eggs in one basket and shit. We have a great location...to build the drying room. Probably make it 8' x 8' x 8' with tight wires pulled wall to wall. We purchased a tiny 3000btu window AC, a 50 pint dehumidifier, and a 6" carbon filter for the room. I used to dry in the grow with a dark box and the same atmosphere. I've found that cooler temps in the first stages of drying (around 65 degrees) work best to get rid of all the chloro scent. We'll cut branches off, remove all leaves with no crystals, and hang the branches. After a week or so the buds are removed from the branches, the fine manicure is performed, and the buds are placed in paper bags for a couple days...then into plastic tubs for the burping. All told, I run a 15 day dry/micro-cure.
In a perfect world, we'd cure for much longer. But it's not a perfect world, is it?
I just can't wait to have the dried buds in my hand. I'm also really curious about the yield. The plants on the veg table have been trained using different techniques. The idea is now to identify the best way to train this strain in our room for yield. This first batch was just to get something while we completed the grow construction. Now we can concentrate on using more technique and not just brute force. The one Lavander cross we're budding is shaping up to out yield the Bubba by at least 50%. Not suprising; this Bubba pheno may be great quality, but tends to produce several smaller buds spaced along the branches. I've seen this pheno grown in several rooms, with and without CO2, and it's always pretty much the same.
We're also talking of bringing in another strain. I put out the word that I'm looking for a sativa cross to fill out the stable. I'm hoping that my little grow network will e showing up soon with a proven winner. Until then, we'll work on perfecting what we have. A West Los Angeles dispensay who sampled the Lavander cross is offering to take it all in exchange for an exlusive. We feel pretty fortunate in this climate to not have the problems that many of our Northern California Brothers are having.
In a perfect world, we'd cure for much longer. But it's not a perfect world, is it?
I just can't wait to have the dried buds in my hand. I'm also really curious about the yield. The plants on the veg table have been trained using different techniques. The idea is now to identify the best way to train this strain in our room for yield. This first batch was just to get something while we completed the grow construction. Now we can concentrate on using more technique and not just brute force. The one Lavander cross we're budding is shaping up to out yield the Bubba by at least 50%. Not suprising; this Bubba pheno may be great quality, but tends to produce several smaller buds spaced along the branches. I've seen this pheno grown in several rooms, with and without CO2, and it's always pretty much the same.
We're also talking of bringing in another strain. I put out the word that I'm looking for a sativa cross to fill out the stable. I'm hoping that my little grow network will e showing up soon with a proven winner. Until then, we'll work on perfecting what we have. A West Los Angeles dispensay who sampled the Lavander cross is offering to take it all in exchange for an exlusive. We feel pretty fortunate in this climate to not have the problems that many of our Northern California Brothers are having.
TheLastWood
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What do u mean take it all in exchange for an exclusive?
Also, don't you find it harder to manicure dry buds? Why do you trim 2x versus doing all the trimming then dryin? To slow the dry? Just wondering why you do it that way.
Also, don't you find it harder to manicure dry buds? Why do you trim 2x versus doing all the trimming then dryin? To slow the dry? Just wondering why you do it that way.
Wolverine97
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He means that if he agrees to be a supplier for them exclusively, they would take the entire crop. At least that's how I interpret that sentence.
Sorry for answering for you Collective...
Sorry for answering for you Collective...
collective gardener
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Wolverine is correct. It's all just talk right now. The competition between dispensaries is getting pretty intense. If one gets a hold of some really different quality stuff, they want to be the only ones that have it. The way this thing is going, I think soon you'll see dispensarys catering to nich markets. There will be one that just sells purple...or true sativas...or concentrates...or, of course, organic. Isn't that the way our markets seem to work in every other industry?
Yes, it's harder to do final trim dry. But, they dry a little slower, making it easier to get it just right. Also, the leaves tend to protect the buds, meaning leass trichome breakage and loss. All in all, it's more a quality thing than an easy thing. Once I started doing it this way, I have stuck with it. It just gives me a better medicine.
TheLastWood
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Ahh I see. So basically if a patient really likes your meds, they are forced to return to the same club to get it. Well as long as there prices to the patient are good its all good right? Do all clubs have to sell for the same prices out there? Idk I don't like monopoly's of any market. "Exclusive" and "competition" are business words. Sry I just have a bad taste in my mouth towards dispensaries. I know if anybody wants to make there meds as accesible to patients in need tho its you.
also, thanks for explaining your drying method. My jacks are about 2 maybe 3 weeks from harvest also. I can't wait.
also, thanks for explaining your drying method. My jacks are about 2 maybe 3 weeks from harvest also. I can't wait.
mellokitty
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*sigh*... i miss a good dry hand trim. crystal mountain products (of spinpro fame) is a local company and it seems like everybody and their dog has one. i think, between their guinea pigs and the 'bro-price' there are more spinpros per capita in bc than anywhere else.
i find that a dry trim is actually *less work in the long run; you don't have to keep flipping the pile so there's less manhandling, you don't have to "go over" your finished product to get rid of exposed stalks etc. etc. that and dry buds often require less scissor-strokes (less carpal tunnel).
cg, if you're ever in need of a trimmer nicknamed "the Woodlathe" send me a plane ticket...
you know, for all the growers we supposedly have in this province, vancouver has all of *2* public dispensaries (and i believe they were both set up by the BC Compassion Society). there was another further in the burbs but they got shut down. BCCS is a well-established mmj organisation peopled with good people; personally i wouldn't set foot in a dispensary *not at least endorsed by BCCS, and i can't think of a reason why any reputable dispensary with "access to medicine" as its primary mandate wouldn't want their endorsement/support/help/network during startup. we are fortunate in that regard here. that and a lot of people want to grow their own or have one designated grower of their medicine anyway. this is the sort of place where on a good day you can go down to your local cannabusiness, run into any number of world-class, world-famous growers/breeders, and pick their brains with your questions. in the time it takes to smoke a joint you can get an answer to your question and learn 3 new facts. why wouldn't you grow your own? although i would definitely at least send someone to check out that organic disp. i hope that you find some medicine-oriented folks like yourselves.
i find that a dry trim is actually *less work in the long run; you don't have to keep flipping the pile so there's less manhandling, you don't have to "go over" your finished product to get rid of exposed stalks etc. etc. that and dry buds often require less scissor-strokes (less carpal tunnel).
cg, if you're ever in need of a trimmer nicknamed "the Woodlathe" send me a plane ticket...
you know, for all the growers we supposedly have in this province, vancouver has all of *2* public dispensaries (and i believe they were both set up by the BC Compassion Society). there was another further in the burbs but they got shut down. BCCS is a well-established mmj organisation peopled with good people; personally i wouldn't set foot in a dispensary *not at least endorsed by BCCS, and i can't think of a reason why any reputable dispensary with "access to medicine" as its primary mandate wouldn't want their endorsement/support/help/network during startup. we are fortunate in that regard here. that and a lot of people want to grow their own or have one designated grower of their medicine anyway. this is the sort of place where on a good day you can go down to your local cannabusiness, run into any number of world-class, world-famous growers/breeders, and pick their brains with your questions. in the time it takes to smoke a joint you can get an answer to your question and learn 3 new facts. why wouldn't you grow your own? although i would definitely at least send someone to check out that organic disp. i hope that you find some medicine-oriented folks like yourselves.
Zigg Zagg
Member
I'm not gonna get mad, but you obviously don't know much about it. it's funny when ppl bash on it....its a big, big state dude.If I owned hell and Cali, I'd rent out Cali and live in hell. lolSeriously though, can't stand the place. Aside from the pretty girls and good weed laws I find nothing else redeeming about the state. I usually don't bring it up for obvious reasons lol
Anyway, I'll just kinda piece out here for a little while or this whole thread will get jacked by people mad that I don't like Cali
PS: Oh yeah, good wine too!
oh yeah, subscribing to this thread as well. this is one of the more legit grows I've seen on here.
rasputin71
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I know enough to know: you can keep your Kalifornia.
jazzyfranc
Member
top notch grow . i love it cleanand organized
Wolverine97
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Sift my friend, it builds character.
collective gardener
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Wood, Good eye on the business buzz words (exclusive...). Most dispenaries are becoming pretty cutt-throat with their vendors, and, to some degree, their patients. I truly appreciate you realizing that we get our meds out there to people who really need them for free. Little do these dispensaries know, that a portion of what they pay us goes towards us donating meds to terminal patients. Jokes on them. But seriously, this industry is moving in a profit driven direction, totally primed for BIG BUSINESS to come in and do their thing to our thing. It's just a matter of time. All we can do is guard our genetics with our lives. "No live plant leaves the grow" is our motto. I hate to say it, but I liked it better when you had to know someone to get your hands on good genetics. It's still like that for the "special" stuff, but great strains are way too available. Upon full legalization there's nothing to stop Big Business from shitting all over us.
collective gardener
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I'm working with a gentleman right now (who's probably reading this. lol), who is starting an all organic delivery collective. It has the makings for something special. He's also commited to getting meds into the hands of cancer patients free of charge. Helper D and I have many offers to settup and manage grows, but these are the kind of folks we choose to work with. I like to make sure we can have a couple meetings before the "how much am I going to make" topic comes up.*sigh*... i miss a good dry hand trim. crystal mountain products (of spinpro fame) is a local company and it seems like everybody and their dog has one. i think, between their guinea pigs and the 'bro-price' there are more spinpros per capita in bc than anywhere else.
i find that a dry trim is actually *less work in the long run; you don't have to keep flipping the pile so there's less manhandling, you don't have to "go over" your finished product to get rid of exposed stalks etc. etc. that and dry buds often require less scissor-strokes (less carpal tunnel).
cg, if you're ever in need of a trimmer nicknamed "the Woodlathe" send me a plane ticket...
you know, for all the growers we supposedly have in this province, vancouver has all of *2* public dispensaries (and i believe they were both set up by the BC Compassion Society). there was another further in the burbs but they got shut down. BCCS is a well-established mmj organisation peopled with good people; personally i wouldn't set foot in a dispensary *not at least endorsed by BCCS, and i can't think of a reason why any reputable dispensary with "access to medicine" as its primary mandate wouldn't want their endorsement/support/help/network during startup. we are fortunate in that regard here. that and a lot of people want to grow their own or have one designated grower of their medicine anyway. this is the sort of place where on a good day you can go down to your local cannabusiness, run into any number of world-class, world-famous growers/breeders, and pick their brains with your questions. in the time it takes to smoke a joint you can get an answer to your question and learn 3 new facts. why wouldn't you grow your own? although i would definitely at least send someone to check out that organic disp. i hope that you find some medicine-oriented folks like yourselves.
collective gardener
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Sorry....not going to happen. This one takes up enough time. Besides, many people here have good stuff to say.
collective gardener
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We seem to be teetering on the edge of negativity here.
theexpress
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i wanna see 20k watt buds too!!!!
collective gardener
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I'll pass that on to Helper D. Without him the grow would look much MUCH different. LOL. Seriously, thank you.
incognegro999
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It will be like the monsanto of MMJ. I like to believe that this plant of ours is one of those few things that has to be too high quality for mass production, at least in the med community. Although there is the old saying if you throw enough money at a problem it can be overcome. Yes, I am definitly being naive haha