Tafbang Ceiling Light Grow Part 2

tafbang

tafbang

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UncleBuck said:
you can top while flowering, but it is not the best idea. a better idea would be to supercrop or LST.



link?

by the way, cannabis is a schedule 1 narcotic (except in oregon). for your edification.
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Yes I know that, when I said perfect I was talking about the guys situation. he was already in flowering and his best option of plant survival was to top it... It was beginning of flowering and I commented that it would be the best option and that it would still work, then grow plenty had to bring some e-beef contradiction and was just trying to start commotion
 
Serapis

Serapis

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The last time I looked, it was a schedule one drug.... Until you get the Federal law overturned it doesn't matter what your state calls or considers it, it is on the schedule one list. You knew perfectly well what the author meant. Federal law currently trumps state law on that matter...

mcpurple said:
this is for collective gardener.
in oregon it is a schedule 2 drug now. look it up.
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Serapis

Serapis

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How exactly does pink soap excite your plants? And that one lousy pic is of a plant that has only been fed 3 times since November? ;)

Gl with your epic grow, I'm out as there is nothing to see here...

tafbang said:
never fed pink soap, used to excite my plants as they wilted back in the day without it. get the fuck out please?
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Serapis

Serapis

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I quickly glanced at all the pages of this thread and I still don't see the pictures that were promised many times.... Didn't someone say on the first page to someone else "picture or it never happened."? I think the OP said it! ;)

shrigpiece said:
Fuck talking legal issues, Lets she them sexy 7 footers taf!
WOOT WOOT
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Brick Top

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frmrboi said:
didn't Obama say he would not sic the feds on med despensaries ?
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He sure did. But fairly recently a dozen or so dispensaries in Montana were raided and since this was released.

Feds Threaten State Dispensaries NationwideRead the Department of Justice’s “Haag Memo” here: http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.....haag.memo.pdf

In a little-publicized memo, the federal government has indicated that the gloves are off with regards to medical marijuana dispensaries, “regardless of state laws.” Previous memos had indicated a loosening of federal prosecutions of medical marijuana, however the new memo states very clearly that the feds consider all dispensaries illegal under federal law and that their prosecution is a “core priority” of the feds.

The “Haag Memo” was written on Feb. 1, 2011 from United States Attorney Melinda Haag (Northern District of California) to John A. Russo, Esq., Oakland City Attorney, in response to an Oakland City Council request for guidance regarding medical marijuana and federal law. The memo was written with consultation and approval from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

The “Haag Memo” clarifies the “Ogden Memo”, which was written by former Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden on Oct. 19, 2009 for the Department of Justice. The “Ogden Memo” seemed to indicate that the new Obama administration would restrict federal prosecution of medical marijuana providers in states that had medical marijuana laws. This was heralded by many as giving them the green light to pursue medical marijuana activities, as long as they were in compliance with state law.

The “Haag Memo” clears up that misconception with some very unambiguous statements. The memo says clearly that the feds will not look the other way on medical marijuana. The “Haag Memo” states very clearly that the feds will continue to investigate, arrest and prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries in every state “regardless of state laws.”

In addition, the memo calls prosecuting medical marijuana dispensaries a “core priority” for the feds.

According to the memo, medical marijuana commercial activity is still considered by the Department of Justice to be “a violation of federal law regardless of state laws permitting such activities.”

The memo may be the cause of the recent increase in federal raids at medical marijuana dispensaries. Only 4 days after the memo was issued, the DEA raided 4 dispensaries in California Just this week, the DEA raided more dispensaries in California and Montana. They arrested dozens of people, and seized the assets and bank accounts of several dispensaries.
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It is only my opinion, but I believe that when Obama met with the heads of major pharmaceutical corporations about his then proposed ObamaCare plans the heads of major pharmaceutical corporations basically said, we can fight this and we can kill this and we can and will cut off all funding to Democrat candidates in the future, including yours when you are up for reelection, or you can give us and only us legal rights to cannabis and we will support what will become your presidential legacy, and Obama folded faster and easier than a well oiled lawn chair. It seems to fit with the following.

Is the DEA legalizing THC?

By Mike Riggs - The Daily Caller | Published: 1:21 PM 02/10/2011 | Updated: 3:42 AM 02/11/2011

In November of last year, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) proposed a seemingly subtle change to its policy on marijuana. Citing recommendations from the assistant secretary for Health at the Department of Health and Human Services, the agency outlined its plan to reschedule pills containing organic dronabinol from schedule I to schedule III.

Dronabinol is short for tetrahydrocannabinol and long for THC. It’s more commonly known as the thing in marijuana that gets you high.

“This proposed action expands the schedule III listing to include formulations having naturally-derived dronabinol and products encapsulated in hard gelatin capsules,” reads the DEA’s proposed rule. “This would have the effect of transferring the FDA-approved versions of such generic Marinol [a synthetic THC drug] products from schedule I to schedule III.”

Paul Armentano of the National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws reads the proposal as a way of legalizing marijuana so just Big Pharma can make money from it.

“DEA is taking a shortcut by saying, well, we can reschedule organic THC because it mimics an existing drug on the market,” Armentano said. “Which is ironic given that they are saying the organic substance is derivative of the synthetic substance that is actually based on the organic substance.”

A spokesperson from the DEA told The Daily Caller that the rescheduling of pills containing organic dronabinol is not equivalent to legalizing THC. “Please note that DEA is not ‘rescheduling … organic THC,’” wrote the DEA’s Rusty Payne in an e-mail.

“THC, natural or synthetic, remains a schedule I controlled substance. Under the proposed rule, in those instances in the future where FDA might approve a generic version of Marinol, that version of the drug will be in the same schedule as the brand name version of the drug, regardless of whether the THC used in the generic version was synthesized by man or derived from the cannabis plant.”

In other words, THC in plant form or as an extract, will still be illegal. What won’t be illegal is if a pharmaceutical company buys THC from a government-licensed provider, puts it in a pill, receives the DEA’s stamp of approval, and sells it a price that will likely be far higher than the price of marijuana.

Armentano said such circular reasoning is a product of decades of hostility towards marijuana research.

“This is the insane rationale necessary for banning medical marijuana,” he said. “Take away the prohibition and the political elements, and you would never have the stretching of logic necessary to pass organic THC but only if it mimics Marinol.”

Payne protested the comparison. “Marinol is not the same thing as marijuana; nor is any generic version of Marinol that might be approved by the FDA in the future. Marijuana (the cannabis plant) contains approximately 500 different chemicals; and dronabinol (the form of THC found in Marinol) is just one of those numerous chemicals in the plant.”

The DEA’s proposed rule says that the agency will only entertain abbreviated new drug applications, the process by which most generics are approved when the patent expires on a branded drug. That means requiring an organic dronabinol drug to mimic Marinol may actually help get an organic pill on the market in record time.

Payne declined to say when the rules would pass. ”There is no timetable for the publication of the final rule. As with all proposed rules, DEA is required by law to give careful consideration to the public comments in deciding whether to finalize the rule.”
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It also fits in with a somewhat recent study that said the U.S. medicinal marijuana business has grown into a $1.7 billion dollar a year business ... and Pfizer, the maker of Viagra, earned $1.9 billion from it last year.

Major pharmaceutical corporations don't just want a slice of that $1.7 billion pie ... they want the entire pie ... and while at first I did not believe so, I now suspect that Obama is attempting to hand it to them on a silver platter.
 
doc111

doc111

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Brick Top said:
He sure did. But fairly recently a dozen or so dispensaries in Montana were raided and since this was released.



It is only my opinion, but I believe that when Obama met with the heads of major pharmaceutical corporations about his then proposed ObamaCare plans the heads of major pharmaceutical corporations basically said, we can fight this and we can kill this and we can and will cut off all funding to Democrat candidates in the future, including yours when you are up for reelection, or you can give us and only us legal rights to cannabis and we will support what will become your presidential legacy, and Obama folded faster and easier than a well oiled lawn chair. It seems to fit with the following.



It also fits in with a somewhat recent study that said the U.S. medicinal marijuana business has grown into a $1.7 billion dollar a year business ... and Pfizer, the maker of Viagra, earned $1.9 billion from it last year.

Major pharmaceutical corporations don't just want a slice of that $1.7 billion pie ... they want the entire pie ... and while at first I did not believe so, I now suspect that Obama is attempting to hand it to them on a silver platter.
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What? Obama, a politician, lied about something??????????:o Imagine that! Of course it's about money, it's always been about money and will continue to be about money. :fire:
 
Brick Top

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Serapis said:
That won't stop people from growing. Nothing will but a lack of sun and power..
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That is true .. but some people who are in true need and who need to rely on others to grow for them or who can only purchase at dispensaries may very well suffer. The recreational toker will suffer far less, if at all, from this than those who are in actual need will.

That is what makes it tragic.
 
UncleBuck

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tafbang said:
Yes I know that, when I said perfect I was talking about the guys situation. he was already in flowering and his best option of plant survival was to top it... It was beginning of flowering and I commented that it would be the best option and that it would still work, then grow plenty had to bring some e-beef contradiction and was just trying to start commotion
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i am aware you are new to the game, so let me tell you: topping is not the best idea once flowering has begun.

topping is fine if you give the plant time to recover and branch out again, but the plant does not have that chance once flowering has begun.

here is my evidence.

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you can see that the cola i would have had to top has developed into a good deal worth of bud.

you can also see the 90 degree bend i put into the main cola half way into its flowering period (not suggested).

i gave up on this plant for dead as it was too leggy, but it hung in there, repaired its stem where i supercropped, and laid out a ton of bud.

end point: i do not believe tafbang is qualified to give advice to anybody about their grow, especially considering the lack of quality in his own grow.
 
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