Re-elect Obama 2012 thread

[Ernst]

President Barack Obama is kicking off his re-election campaign.

I can't remember a more mixed message from a Democrat incumbent to start off a re-election.

At this time I am really stunned as to what is what and who is who in American politics.
What is Left and what is Right before nothing is left and nothing is right.



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/02/obama-re-election-announcement/

TRENDING: Obama re-election announcement

By: CNN National Political Correspondent Jessica Yellin
WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Barack Obama plans to send supporters a text or e-mail message with a video announcing his intention to run for re-election, multiple Democratic sources tell CNN.
The message could come as early as Monday morning. The sources say his campaign team also hopes to file papers with the Federal Election Commission Monday to launch his 2012 re-election campaign.

The timing of the announcement and the filing could change depending on outside events. The White House is closely watching negotiations on Capitol Hill over the 2011 spending bill, which must be resolved this week to avoid a government shutdown.
This would come more than a week before the president hosts his first re-election fund-raiser in Chicago on April 14. These Democrats say no public event is planned because the White House wants to downplay the announcement and minimize the political distraction.
The president is making his campaign official slightly earlier than is typical for an incumbent so he can get a jump on fund-raising in a season that's likely to shatter all records. Obama’s team has been asking campaign bundlers to raise $350,000 each, no easy task since campaign finance laws limit gifts to $2,500 per donor. Two sources tell CNN the campaign team hopes that in total their bundlers will raise $500 million, leaving the campaign to raise another $500 million and amass a record-breaking $1 billion war chest.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/02/obama-re-election-announcement/

 

[Dan Kone]

Obama, like you, is a total fraud.

I'm sorry to say that. I was a huge Obama supporter. I worked on his primary campaign in several states. But he's been a huge disappointment. He's just not the same guy as he was when he was running.

At this point I'd rather have a moderate republican than Obama. Obama's policies are that of a moderate republican. If we are going to have a president pushing moderate republican policies anyways, I'd rather have a republican doing it because at least republicans get things done.

I'll vote for Obama if the republican candidate is a far right winger, but Obama is nothing to get excited about.

 

[Ernst]

I take offence on the label as your opening statement.

Oh on the Obama issue I agree it has been hard to follow but then I did place him in the republican candidate thread.

I have to say he likes to stay a bit vague and will now re-invent the Obama brand.

I now am seeking a new hero since who can deny that politics and economics make whores of them all.

The question I have is since we know the next President will be Anti-Cannabis obviously what icon should us pot-people gravitate to?

 

[gwhunran]

Rand Paul or ex governor Johnson, mostly Libertarians. Forgot Ron Paul. How could I do that

 

[NLXSK1]

You were a day late on this one pal...

It should have been posted on April Fools Day.

 

[Green Inferno]

Let's hope Wisconsin ex-governor Tommy Thomson doesn't run and get elected. (he is the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services now)
He ruined Wisconsin, I'm sure he could ruin the entire country if given the opportunity.

As far as Obama goes, I'd like to see who else there is to choose from. If he is the lesser of the 2 evils......

 

[mame]

Obama, like you, is a total fraud.

I'm sorry to say that. I was a huge Obama supporter. I worked on his primary campaign in several states. But he's been a huge disappointment. He's just not the same guy as he was when he was running.

At this point I'd rather have a moderate republican than Obama. Obama's policies are that of a moderate republican. If we are going to have a president pushing moderate republican policies anyways, I'd rather have a republican doing it because at least republicans get things done.

I'll vote for Obama if the republican candidate is a far right winger, but Obama is nothing to get excited about.

Obama ran as a post partisan.

aside from that several presidents have moved to the center to be re-elected. Even FDR moved to the right prior to being re-elected (he even allowed for some spending cuts to go through during the time he was pursuing new deal policies).

My point? Obama is doing a fine job.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

I guess I'm lost as to why we're even spending one second on this topic.

He's the incumbent, of course he's running for re-election. Any thought that he wouldn't is ridiculous.

Why is this announcement happening in April of 2011? He's the freaking President, do we even need him to tell us he's running?

The only explanation is this guy is used to spending most of his time in elected office, running for higher office. It's where he's comfortable. The actual performing of the duties once elected is where he falls short and has no experience. Not bashing, but it's very true.

 

[mame]

I guess I'm lost as to why we're even spending one second on this topic.

He's the incumbent, of course he's running for re-election. Any thought that he wouldn't is ridiculous.

Why is this announcement happening in April of 2011? He's the freaking President, do we even need him to tell us he's running?

The only explanation is this guy is used to spending most of his time in elected office, running for higher office. It's where he's comfortable. The actual performing of the duties once elected is where he falls short and has no experience. Not bashing, but it's very true.

To say he hasn't "performed his duties" is partisan at best. From a historical point of view, he accomplished more in two years than many presidents did in a full term(just think of how many presidents tried to reform the health care system)... Whether you agree with his policies or not, that's hardly falling "short" on his duties.

 

[Ernst]

I guess I'm lost as to why we're even spending one second on this topic.

He's the incumbent, of course he's running for re-election. Any thought that he wouldn't is ridiculous.

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On a humorous note he is the only Republican running..

That said.. There are no Republican opposers' yet.

I have no idea what the bigger picture is. I am sure the mixed message of cut public funding and jobs but spend more on war is an extreme mixed message.

Beyond this I am unsure what is what and who is who in 2011.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

I clearly said he "falls short". Going by his current approval numbers, I'd say I'm in the majority. And by the way, regardless of how many judges ruled in his favor, currently he spent 2 years ignoring what he should have had his attention on, to pass an UNCONSTITUTIONAL health care reform act. Until it is overturned (unlikely) by the SCOTUS, that health care reform is DOA. Of course, ignoring the Constitution is what Libs do best, so I don't expect that to slow him and his cronies down at all.

 

[mame]

I clearly said he "falls short". Going by his current approval numbers, I'd say I'm in the majority. And by the way, regardless of how many judges ruled in his favor, currently he spent 2 years ignoring what he should have had his attention on, to pass an UNCONSTITUTIONAL health care reform act. Until it is overturned (unlikely) by the SCOTUS, that health care reform is DOA. Of course, ignoring the Constitution is what Libs do best, so I don't expect that to slow him and his cronies down at all.

It's constitutional... When the CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY Supreme Court confirms so, it will be another Republican talking point destroyed.

For the record, passing health care reform when he did was likely the best and only time he could pass it. It was the best time to pass it because it alleviates a major problem with our healthcare system that was exposed when the recession hit - the fact that insurance is most often tied to employment. Besides that, the best thing for the economy in a recession (especially because we're in a liquidity trap) is to spend. The best example of this spending is the New Deal which the health care reform act can be compared to in more than a few ways. Man, you're so partisan I'm just gonna stop trying to debate you with reason or facts. It doesn't matter, Bill O'Reilly has had his way with your vote.

 

[budsmoker87]

To say he hasn't "performed his duties" is partisan at best. From a historical point of view, he accomplished more in two years than many presidents did in a full term(just think of how many presidents tried to reform the health care system)... Whether you agree with his policies or not, that's hardly falling "short" on his duties.

he has given more wealth and control to a handful of banks than any other president before him. Look at his inner circle- he's a corrupt lawyer/corporatist from chicago. you make it sound like he's achieved so much for our country...we're now in several wars with several countries...54% of our tax dollars going toward WARS...the war on drugs continues, etc...there is no change for the good with obama


the united states needs nothing short of a revolution now in order for anything to change for the better

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Umm, actually NO, it is currently UNCONSTITUTIONAL. No matter how much you don't like it, at this very second, it has been ruled unconstitutional. Doesn't matter how many favorable judgements it gets, only takes one and that happened.

LOL, you hold the NEW DEAL out as a shining example and you call ME PARTISAN? WOW!

Just for the record, the NEW DEAL and the progressive agenda put forth since, is EXACTLY why we have 105 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities.

And apparently, Paul Krugman has told you how to think. SPEND our way out...really, just a little advice, even most of your side has abandoned that nonsense.

 

[mame]

he has given more wealth and control to a handful of banks than any other president before him. Look at his inner circle- he's a corrupt lawyer/corporatist from chicago. you make it sound like he's achieved so much for our country...we're now in several wars with several countries...54% of our tax dollars going toward WARS...the war on drugs continues, etc...there is no change for the good with obama


the united states needs nothing short of a revolution now in order for anything to change for the better

/facepalm

Seriously people, go read a book or something. Get less of your information off of conspiracy(and fox news) websites. You're blaming Obama for three wars? Two of which he didn't start and a third that has little to no ground troops (CIA)? Obama never said he'd end the war on drugs and considering no other candidate will either - I dont see how this matters... Show me proof of this corruption you speak of. Bailing out those banks - like it or not - was a good move for this country even considering a few people got wrongly rich in the process (this was not in Obama's control anyway).

Your last statement just shows what kind of voter you are... Blame it on the President! It doesn't matter that he didn't start the recession or that his policies have helped recover the economy! It doesn't matter that he went out of his way to show caution and restraint when considering matters in Libya! It doesn't matter, because so many idiots(who watch too much fox news) hate him anyway. It's a good thing history is on my side. Only a few incumbent presidents have failed to win re-election in the U.S.. It will be worth celebrating.

 

[UncleBuck]

And apparently, Paul Krugman has told you how to think. SPEND our way out...really, just a little advice, even most of your side has abandoned that nonsense.

i was in a personal recession. i got laid off a $20/hr job.

the luxurious middle class lifestyle that wage afforded me was supreme. much more than i could ever hope to support on unemployment insurance.

what did i do once my paycheck disappeared? i SPENT my way out.

i put money into lights, fans, and lumber that i could sparsely afford (mostly on credit).

this spending (INVESTMENT) has paid itself back many times over. it is still paying itself back.

kinda makes you wonder if krugman doesn't have a point when he talks of spending money on much needed infrastructure improvement so that trucks don't have to idle for so long on outdated highways, burning non-renewable energy sources.

i guess it all depends on how short-sighted you are.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Blah, blah, blah Fox News Blah blah blah Fox News Blah blah blah Fox News

Typical liberal douchebag. New Deal...I'm still laughing at the stupidity of that one.

 

[UncleBuck]

and as far as the op is concerned...

i will probably not be voting for obama. like dan kone, i would do so if his opponent was too far right, but i don't see that happening. i see a comfortable obama victory in my state.

thus, i will likely be throwing my vote to some third party hopeful.

NOT herman cain (only a fucking meth fiend would vote for that guy).

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Yup, short sighted all right.

I make $50,000 a year, I have $50,000 in debt. I also have $500,000 in unfunded, unsecured debt coming due. I lose my job. The answer is obviously to borrow $25,000 to perform upgrades on my home.

What was I thinking, every single person in the US must see this except me. I should embrace the progressive, suicidal agenda...I figure all I need is a lobotomy and some tights.

 

[mame]

Yup, short sighted all right.

I make $50,000 a year, I have $50,000 in debt. I also have $500,000 in unfunded, unsecured debt coming due. I lose my job. The answer is obviously to borrow $25,000 to perform upgrades on my home.

That's not a good argument to make, sir. It would be more like if you went to school for that 25 grand and got a new job that payed more to pay your debts instead of blaming government for your shortcomings.