hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
what you ambient temp outside the res? and how much electric cost does a 1/2 on use?
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stillgamble
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i was thinkin of adding more but the guy at the store said to be carefull cause it could burn the plant. so i was just adding what it said on the back of the bottle. the light s come back on in a few hours so im goin to check the roots and its been 3 days since the last rez change so ill add more h2o2 also. im still not sure about adding bleach as i have never seen any pics of before and after using it for the prob that im having but im also gettin to the point that i might go that way if they dont start lookin better
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
there alot of info in AL BE FUCT threads on using H202 at the levels I gave you. H202 at up to 25ML per gal aint going to burn nothing! ive gone that high
with no il affects! as fo bleach theres a thread by a member cant think of his name il search he a bleach gooroo so il find in and post in a bit.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
k here it is
bleach instead of H202....by choempi
hope this clears up any confusion
bleach instead of H202....by choempi
hope this clears up any confusion
i81two
Well-Known Member
75 amb temp at the 40's and 100 gallon rez's and 85 at the 70's.
I dont know about the cost. Doesnt matter much when u compare the loss of one crop.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
your 100% right about that! so a 1/2 hp chiller and a copper coil on a closed loop
and that one chiller per res?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
awsome! so one chiller for x2 res I like it, one last Q on the chillers what brand you use?
stillgamble
Active Member
i added more than normal h2o2 to my rez tonight so ill watch the plants and the slime and see what happens and if they look like they can handle more all keep bumping it up a bit. the plants r still lookin good and r still shooting more leaves i just hope that this slime wont kill and or effect the plants as they flower. i only have the air stones on an hour before flood and running for a hour after flood and also adding frozen water bottles and my temps droped to 73 but my room is not gettin as hot now that im running the lights at night now so i hope this will help with the water temps also
i81two
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Yes 1 for 2 rez's. I help the chiller work less (not that it really needs it) by changing out old 2 1/2 gallon nute jugs with frozen water everyday. I had the freezer to use and said wtf i might as well help the chillers life a little.
I keep the chiller temp set at 64 to keep the rez's at 68.
Yes 1 for 2 rez's. I help the chiller work less (not that it really needs it) by changing out old 2 1/2 gallon nute jugs with frozen water everyday. I had the freezer to use and said wtf i might as well help the chillers life a little.
I keep the chiller temp set at 64 to keep the rez's at 68.
AKronic
Active Member
Hello again, hope im not high jacking the thread but i have some questions about building my own Ebb and Grow system. i really like the idea of the CAP system but im not gonna pay almost 600bucks. so i have found all the parts. i am gonna get the controller from Aquahub.......and i have two large barrels for my rez and water storage. and a 18gal tub that is the same height of a 5gal bucket. the only reason i dont just use HD buckets is the new CAP ones have a 9degree slope inside so when the drain cycle ends there should be no standing water. so i was debating on just buying the 5gal buckets because they have a slope inside and they come with holes large enough to run 3/4" drain lines where as the 2gal only utilize 1/2". also because ive heard about ppl haveing to put a 1-2" piece of pvc in the bottom the keep the inner bucket off the bottom so i decided i would try to use those 10" net pots that are made to act as a bucket lid. so then if i went w/ the larger buckets i would have more room for roots to grow if they need w/o them creeping into the drain hole like ive heard can happen. also the 3/4" line allows for faster fill and drain times. so what do you guys think does it make any sense to use the monster outer buckets or am i just thinking this over too much and should i just go w/ the 2gal 6pot expansion and deal w/ the 1/2" lines and smaller size.....i dont plan on goin over 12 in the begining. i will be using a Raptor hood w/ 1000w Digilux and lumatek ballast on a rail w/ 6' ext. also should i go w/ the 6rpm or the 10rpm motor? faster would mean i can put the light closer correct? thanks for the feedback in advance guys
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
there is no need to get the 5 gal unless your going to grow monster trees! plus 12 is all you could flood with 55gal. one thing you should
shop around cus I got my ebb for 480$ dont know about 600$
stillgamble
Active Member
so im goin to flood for 45 min instead of the normal 15 min. im hopin the extra time the roots r in the water will help fight off the slime as i added more h2o2, or am i doin more harm then good by keeping the roots submerged for that long?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
45 min might be to much time you could see signs of over watering, 30min is what I like to flood 3 times a day
Ferredoxin
Active Member
So I think I am causing myself grief by transplanting my cuttings as bare root plants into this system. This is my second run with the Ebb and Gro, and both times my plants just sit there for the first week and look like shit. I clone in an aerocloner (with no media), and then just bury the roots in hydroton in the ebb buckets once the roots are 6" long or so. It has been 8 days since transplanting, and only 2-3 pots out of 24 have any type of roots coming out the bottom of the pot. The clones are still somewhat green, but the leaves are fairly droopy. Maybe I just need to find a better flood schedule? I am vegging for 18 hrs/day, and I am flooding 3x during the light cycle (30 mins after lights on, and 6 hr intervals until lights off). Running GH nutes @ ~180ppm (tap water comes out at 220ppm) plus some Roots Excelurator, Floralicious Plus, and Pro-Tekt at low rates (the PPM meter reads 420 right now...heheh). I feel like the clones are just stressin from such a huge change in environment from aero to dog food.
Any ideas or suggestions before I shitcan the aerocloner and go back to rockwool cubes?
Any ideas or suggestions before I shitcan the aerocloner and go back to rockwool cubes?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I feel your pain bro! my buddys and mine do the same shit. why im thinking of converting from aero to a small flood system, seems they do go through a week of shock!
and thats to much time for a transplant
powerplant74
Member
I keep hearing there is no need for 5gals buckets wth not?
Which brings me to my next question, what's the highest yield any of you personally had using 2gallons pot?
Which brings me to my next question, what's the highest yield any of you personally had using 2gallons pot?
i81two
Well-Known Member
If u go to hydroton with bare roots u should flood every 1-1.5 hours for 15 min.
Otherwise go to a plug and then into a 4x4 for a week or more of veg then into the bucket with hydroton.
Ferredoxin
Active Member
Yeah thats what I was fearing. I have had average success with RW cubes and cloning. I have yet to lose a cutting in my aero cloner...100% success in 10+ batches so far!
I was flooding up to 5 times per lights on with the last batch while experimenting with the proper schedule, and they appeared to get worse with that many floods. It was by no means a scientific study, and they could have just hit the peak of their stress when I tried that schedule. I will flip a few more swtiches tonight and keep an eye on them.
Should I wait until all pots have roots coming out the bottom before upping the PPMs and dialing back to 3 floods per day?