Club 600

[whodatnation]

Results dont lie, awesome test cof! thank you.

 

[DoobieBrother]

Results dont lie, awesome test cof! thank you.

I switched from FFOF to Black Gold Organic potting soil two grows ago and felt the plants did better in the Black Gold than Fox Farms. I bought the Black Gold because there was no FFOF in Salem at the time and didn't feel like driving 120 miles roundtrip for one bag of FFOF so tried it out. It was $5.99 for a bag the same size as the FFOF ($17), and the plants loved the stuff.

Was in the reverse situation with my current grow, couldn't find the Black Gold organic, but was able to find a bag of FFOF, so bought it.
The plants just don't seem to thrive in FFOF as much as they did in the Black Gold.
Was totally anecdotal, except that the last 2 grows were all clones from the same plants, so the variations of seed genetics wasn't a factor.
Anyways, thanks for doing the experiment COF, going to be interesting to see what happens as time goes by.
Peace!

 

[shnkrmn]

Clones can take it, seedlings croak on MG. It's just a little hot.

Nice test.

Soil Test

Here are the three clones at day 20 when they were placed into the bloom room.
From left to right Fox Farm-Miracle Grow-Jungle Growth Pro


The clones were approximately 6" when this started and currently the Miracle Grow is the leader at 12", with the Jungle Growth at 10" and the Fox Farm at 8 1/2".
Plants are in bag soil and are just watered with no additional amendments
I'm as surprised as anyone that the Miracle Grow is leading. Stay tuned for further results.


cof

 

[curious old fart]

As I was amending some soil today I happened to read the content of lime and realized that it is cal/mg in powder form and is capable of being disolved in water with no problem. At $6 for a 5 lb bag that uses 1 tablespoon per gallon as opposed to cal/mg liquid for $20 per quart, it is quite a savings and can be used in soil or hydro.


cof

 

[duchieman]

Is that Dolomitic lime your talking about cof?

 

[curious old fart]

Is that Dolomitic lime your talking about cof?

No, it's hydrated. I stand corrected on the price, it was $4 for 5 lbs and a 50 lb bag was $15.


cof

 

[Shwagbag]

As I was amending some soil today I happened to read the content of lime and realized that it is cal/mg in powder form and is capable of being disolved in water with no problem. At $6 for a 5 lb bag that uses 1 tablespoon per gallon as opposed to cal/mg liquid for $20 per quart, it is quite a savings and can be used in soil or hydro.


cof

It sure is! I typically use both lime in the soil and cal mag with feedings these days. Cal mag is damn pricey though, but only needs 5 ml per gallon. The lime I've used in the past dissolves like shit though. I recently scored a bag of powdered lime which works awesome but makes a nasty mess if you aren't careful with it. It instantly dissolves into the solution.

The only thing I would add about using lime as opposed to cal mag is that they seem to have the opposite PH effects. Cal mag typically drops my PH where lime will raise it higher. Last time I used powdered lime I metered my solution and it was dead on 7.0.

 

[curious old fart]

It sure is! I typically use both lime in the soil and cal mag with feedings these days. Cal mag is damn pricey though, but only needs 5 ml per gallon. The lime I've used in the past dissolves like shit though. I recently scored a bag of powdered lime which works awesome but makes a nasty mess if you aren't careful with it. It instantly dissolves into the solution.

The only thing I would add about using lime as opposed to cal mag is that they seem to have the opposite PH effects. Cal mag typically drops my PH where lime will raise it higher. Last time I used powdered lime I metered my solution and it was dead on 7.0.

One of the uses of hydrated lime is to "sweeten" the soil, which lowers acidity.


cof

 

[whodatnation]

Here are some very lengthy posts on lime~~~~~

http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-beginners/730600-why-how-does-lime-work-chemical-discussion-lime-ph-soil.html

Im not sure if its ok to post links to other sites but its good info and would be dumb not to share, so...

 

[DoobieBrother]

Just got done with a foliar feeding of cal/mag for my plants. A few were stricken and I haven't had the oomph for much so it got a little out of hand.
Don't judge me!
My folly...

a sleepy manx...

 

[DST]

Evening 6'ers. Up for some Chop this morgen. Although that cat pic makes me want to go back to bed....

Have a good one peeps.

DST

 

[DoobieBrother]

Here are some very lengthy posts on lime~~~~~

http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-beginners/730600-why-how-does-lime-work-chemical-discussion-lime-ph-soil.html

Im not sure if its ok to post links to other sites but its good info and would be dumb not to share, so...

Damn you, Weed!
Getting us all fired up about chemistry & shit!
A good read.

 

[whodatnation]

Damn you, Weed!
Getting us all fired up about chemistry & shit!
A good read.

It was a good read.

This plant has dictated a good portion of my life lol but I wouldn't have it any other way

Sorry about your plants am I correct in thinking its a result of the foliar feed? i may be confused.

Dont get down brother doob, as you know we all have problems... the difference is some people learn and others don't... but no one is perfect and sometimes equipment unexpectedly fails... all a part of it, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

 

[DoobieBrother]

It was a good read.

This plant has dictated a good portion of my life lol but I wouldn't have it any other way

Sorry about your plants am I correct in thinking its a result of the foliar feed? i may be confused.

Dont get down brother doob, as you know we all have problems... the difference is some people learn and others don't... but no one is perfect and sometimes equipment unexpectedly fails... all a part of it, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

No. There was a developing cal-mag issue I was watching, but was stoned and I missed it. So instead of the slower response I'll get from root feeding it, I gave it an emergency foliar feeding until the issue is compensated for at the root level.
I usually do a couple of cal-mag foliars during the flowering cycle. But I held off this time.


I grew for 1-1/2 years in Portland without the cal-mag issue, but has been a problem since moving to Salem 1-1/2 years ago. I got complacent.

(*edit: and what I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall during a few grows from some of you who are far closer to mastering this plant than I am. RIU & the 600 are the next best thing )

 

[DoobieBrother]

Here's another mega-view of Northern Berry at 36 days of 12/12:

 

[whodatnation]

(*edit: and what I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall during a few grows from some of you who are far closer to mastering this plant than I am. RIU & the 600 are the next best thing )

Diddo my friend

Northern berry looking NICE.


D, you got the sticky fingers? or go back to sleep? lol that cat did make sleeping look like a good plan.
What are you chopping today?

 

[billcollector99]

21 grams Northern Skunk sugar trim, 1/2 cup margarine , box of chocalate chip cookie mix, couple heath candy bars, mix it all together, and voila instant space cakes. Holy crap i went flying today!!!!

 

[DoobieBrother]

21 grams Northern Skunk sugar trim, 1/2 cup margarine , box of chocalate chip cookie mix, couple heath candy bars, mix it all together, and voila instant space cakes. Holy crap i went flying today!!!!

I love Heath bars!!! Or just good toffee!!!!!!
Sounds like some tasty snax, billcollector! How many cakes you get out of it? Or did you do it as one big cake?


*And here is a glam shot of another Northern Berry:

 

[whodatnation]

hopefully your well stoned when you watch this

[video=youtube;NuTjQLfU6Gk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuTjQLfU6Gk&NR=1[/video]


Edit: I had to add this one!

[video=youtube;LtqEknAtyQQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqEknAtyQQ&NR=1[/video]

 

[mr west]

purple>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta love a black and white cat lol. I have two and a half black and white cats lol. My under cover police cats.