bongmarley2009
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Thanks Munkie; I'm going to have to browse through the earlier pages in this thread. I am really digging the coco and I like the fact that you can just plant the germinated seed straight into it.
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NightbirdX
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Thanks for the info bro. I've been trying to figure out how to do this exact thing for a minute. I just wasn't sure if I wanted to keep the seed plants as moms or run the clones.It is possible to sex them at about 45 days in from seed, but to be 100% sure I veg them out 4-6 weeks then throw them into my flower room and within the first 2 weeks they'll show their sex/pre-flowers, either pistells or lil ball sacks by the stem next to the branch nodes. you can do this safely without the males pollenating everything as they aren't ready to spit any pollen yet. Once the males have been pulled out, I then take 2 clones from each female I have left to veg & keep for mothers. If I like the finished product from the original seed plant I'll keep the clone mother as I'll know then I have a for sure female to work with for future clone grows.
THESkunkMunkie
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I left you a link in my last post straight to the page with my germination method mate, and I plant direct into the coco once I've got a good sized tap root too, works just like soil really. Like I said it's my first time using coco and I love it!! Best hydro medium I've used for my grow style and I'll be sticking with it for a while now.
No worries fella, thanx for stoppin by. And imo from clone mothers are easier to manage than from seed mothers mate.
THESkunkMunkie
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Shit mate, your havin a run of bad luck with your tech' lately aren't you ~ first your camera lost/stolen, and now your pc is playing up again!? lol mate I hope you get a break & things sorted out soon, I'm missing your updates. Let me know when your back sorted out mate.
kevin murphy
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thats what i like to hear pal..
No worries or bad feeling from me mate, thanx for stopping by and be sure not to be a stranger. We share the same love for the sattys
Thanx Kev'
bongmarley2009
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Perlite is typically added to aid in the drainage of your grow medium.
Munkie: How soon do you start feeding nutrients after you plant your seed into coco?
Munkie: How soon do you start feeding nutrients after you plant your seed into coco?
THESkunkMunkie
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Hey fella's, BongMarley got it spot on Beanz, to add better drainage to the coco - there is also a thin layer of hydroton in the bottom of my pots too for even more added ease of drainage. It keeps the coco from retaining too much moisture in it for too long. And I start feeding nutrients at around week #3 from seed when the plants are big enough to take it, starting at ~ E.C.-1.2, ph-5.9/6.0. Nutes mixed in at a lighter dose shedule too. Usually when they're about this size is when I'll introduce them to nutrient feeds mate.
bongmarley2009
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Very informative and very much appreciated. I am taking notes bc coco is foreign territory for me and I really would like to use it over soil anyday. When you feed, do you use nutrients everytime or do you alternate...say nutrients 1 day and then the next day just plain water. And do you use the lift the pot method to determine when your plants need to be watered/fed? I'm assuming that those soil moisture probe meters made for soil will not work for coco.
THESkunkMunkie
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No worries mate, I feed/water with nutrient/additive mix from my res' tank everytime as there is not any need to flush untill the last few weeks of your flowering cycle. Coco don't hold nutrients in like soil does so flushing is not really needed unless you overdo the nutrient dose tbh, and it's easy to tell when they need to be watered too as the coco goes dry, kinda like a sponge does when they need watering/feeding again, you can tell by the touch of the medium, I let mine almost run completely dry before watering again.
matatan
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very nice questions bongmarley, i was in the process of asking the same questions lol.
skunk - i been watching a user on youtube named sublbc he also grows in coco, pure coco tho, and he DOES alternate between nutrient mix and water. i was under the impression, just like what bongmarley said that the medium does get salt build up over time. i guess everyone has there own thing..
i just transplant and started feeding my superlemon haze at day 17 of veg working on its 4th true node, with ppm at 800. i am a bit worried that the ppm is pretty high, but i jus saw your pic, skunk, and mine is maybe just one node smaller than yours, and you start of at 1.2ec which is 840ppm so i think she will be ok.... still gonna keep a close eye on her. also, she is not in coco, she is dwc in 5gallon bucket.
what about the run off? how much do you let run off and do you check the ppm/ec and/or ph of the run off?
also what type of coco are you using?
skunk - i been watching a user on youtube named sublbc he also grows in coco, pure coco tho, and he DOES alternate between nutrient mix and water. i was under the impression, just like what bongmarley said that the medium does get salt build up over time. i guess everyone has there own thing..
i just transplant and started feeding my superlemon haze at day 17 of veg working on its 4th true node, with ppm at 800. i am a bit worried that the ppm is pretty high, but i jus saw your pic, skunk, and mine is maybe just one node smaller than yours, and you start of at 1.2ec which is 840ppm so i think she will be ok.... still gonna keep a close eye on her. also, she is not in coco, she is dwc in 5gallon bucket.
what about the run off? how much do you let run off and do you check the ppm/ec and/or ph of the run off?
also what type of coco are you using?
kevin murphy
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nice update info pal..keep up good work lad..
THESkunkMunkie
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Yeah you should be OK at that starting ppm mate hydro systems can generally cope with higher E.C/ppm's, I go by the E.C. as it was just the way I was taught how tbh
.I'm using CANNA Coco pro + and the full line up of CANNA nutrients/additives for feeding as well as other extra's I use too ~ Superthrive & Bio link +, I'll leave you the links to the CANNA website where there's loads more info about all their products.
Like I said earlier mate this is my first run with coco and I'm not using just straight coco either I've mixed it with 30/20% perlite for a better ease of drainage in the medium as well as an extra layer of hydroton at the base of my pots too. I've hand fed/watered mine here with the nute mix in my res' tank, giving them each 1.5L (daily) when the coco is almost dried out, if it's still pretty moist then I'll leave them to dry out a 'lil more before feeding. I only will flush out at the near end of cycle, unless my plants are showing any diff's/issues with nute overdoses/lockouts etc, tbh I haven't had to at all here as I have not encoutered any major issues with this run. I've found though that they do preffer more Cal' in coco which I've kept on top of here by using the Calcium "mono" additive mixed in with every res change.
I don't really have any run off to cope with either with the amount I water with, and any run off I do get is quickly absorbed back up by the plants by the next day anyways.
Stay tuned I'm gonna have an update here laters
gonna get some real nice Bud porn pic's with the HPS off soon.http://www.canna-uk.com/products
THESkunkMunkie
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^^ So here's how things are looking here, x2 - Grape Stomper OG & x5 - Sour Hazy Jones are now at Day #51 into flower, all coming together really well and now nearing the end of their life cycles with the main fan leaves starting to loose their lush green colour as I've dropped the nute strength in my res' down and I am gonna start flushing from today now on these ~ E.C.- 1.6, ph 5.6/6.0. ~ CANNA Coco A+B, Boost & Cal,Rhizotonic, Cannazym and superthrive. no PK, no N & no Mg.
^^ x5 - SnowDawg2 & x2 - Killing Fields f3 (middle)
^^ x2 - Killing Fields f3
^^ These have been in my flower room for 9 Days now and the x5 - SnowDawg2's have all been supercropped now they have shown their sex, 4 are female and 1 was male which has now been pulled out and replaced with another SD2 from my veg closet, which has been in now for 2 days. My x2 - Killing Fields f3's have still not shown sex yet properly but I'm pretty confident they're female so I've supercropped these as well.
CANNA ~ Coco A+B, Rhizotonic, Cannazym, CANNA - Monos ~ Nitrogen, Calcium and Superthrive. For the last 9 days ~ E.C.- 1.5, ph - 5.9/6.0
^^ SnowDawg2, replacement for male SD2 pulled, 2 days in flowering room
^^ x2 - Killing Fields f3
*Bubba Love* - Day #37
~ E.C - 1.7, ph - 5.9/6.0 - Boost & Cal, no PK & no N
^^ Bubba Love
Room temp's ~ Day - 25c-28c & Night - 18c+
THESkunkMunkie
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^^ SHJ - stretchy pheno's
^^ SHJ ~ "Lyla"
THESkunkMunkie
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^^ "Daisy"(left) & "Berta"(right)
^^ "Daisy"
^^ "Berta"
^^ Day#51 - Tric' shots!!
ThaConspiracy
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Damn them girls are filling out nicely.. I already told you i was looking forward to that GSOG but that SHJ is looking hella good. Keep up the good work bro!!! 
