The Choice I Never Made...

[olylifter420]

yea, whatever diabeto said...

I'll attack them, if the beliefs can't hold up to scrutiny, what's the point in going on believing them. to feel better? make the cruel reality a little easier for our feeble minds to handle? people can always use drugs to escape, or get used to it.

 

[Luger187]

because that aint none of my business... i dont see why dont understand why i respect what you decide to do with your life... braz is able to why cant you?

it has gone from my beliefs to how i think, i would take that as an attack, yes i would... and using one of my opinions as your signature is also an attack on me... you are trying to show the rest of riu just how stupid i am in your eyes by what i said... that is an attack...


you are being sarcastic with that, but i do have information you do not have, but do not wish to share it with you... for what, so you can make fun of what i think?


why do my beliefs matter so much to you? YOu already know my religion, so with that simple fact, you already disagree with me from the get go, so i see no point in exchanging ideologies with you...

hahahahahaha
having what YOU SAID in my signature is not an attack. that is showing others what you believe.

i think its sad that you automatically assume we are trying to put you down for asking questions. it makes debate with you impossible because you refuse to question your own beliefs. if you dont question them HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE RIGHT?! if you question them, and they prove to be true, more power to you. but to just believe it because thats the way you were raised is PURE IGNORANCE.

your beliefs matter to me because its a debate about beliefs. and you probably vote, which affects my life. but you seem to think that asking questions is somehow us trying to put you down. we have ZERO problem with you questioning our beliefs. and you have no problem shouting insults about how we are stupid atheists. but it hurts your feelings when we ask questions, so we are not allowed to? thats bullshit.

just because i disagree with you does not mean i wont listen to you. and now you are refusing to talk about your beliefs because you think we are going to just shoot you down. how am i supposed to know what you believe if you havent even told me?

if your beliefs are so great, why dont you share them with us? if you really believe them, you would never be embarrassed to tell them to others

 

[Luger187]

I'll attack them, if the beliefs can't hold up to scrutiny, what's the point in going on believing them. to feel better? make the cruel reality a little easier for our feeble minds to handle? people can always use drugs to escape, or get used to it.

if a belief cant be held up to scrutiny, it probably shouldnt be believed. yes, people get a sense of satisfaction when they believe they are right, whether they are or not. when religious beliefs come into question, they tend to act like oly. dodging questions, being sarcastic, making insults, making excuses for why they wont answer questions, etc. but they fail to realize that makes them a lot less believable because other people see right through that

 

[drew420fuckyou]

Not an athiest. And glad I'm not. Not a Christian, or really any religion although I respect the teachings of Jesus and try to live by some of the principles of both him and Buddha. I have seen and felt and thought more than enough that it makes sense for there to be a god and an afterlife. All life forms I have seen seem to have a sort of life force and greater consciousness which is reinforced by near death experiences, and the fact that materialism is just lacking something. And something/someone had to make the universe. Matter can't come from nowhere.

 

[DelSlow]

Shit, this thread made my afternoon. Better than trash tv! Thanks guys (oly and beardo in particular)

 

[beardo]

I think it's funny that Atheists refuse to discuss why they don't openly support the killing of the followers of God and why they want to get gay married and why they don't eat people.

 

[Padawanbater2]

So the extent of being a hypocrite is predicated on the extremity of the situation and not the fact of. So being a hypocrite is o.k. as long as you are being a hyocrite in a minor way. You can shoe shine this all you want but being a Hypocrit is being a Hypocrit.. And it was never about his opinion of standards it was about his actions. If you ignore and dismiss information then actively take part in accepting someone else's information that can be speculated over for particular reasons especially if the exact same information was giving before. You stand judgement of being a Hypocrit. Oly said he has discussed this with his professor and was willing to listen but declined any reason to listen to Pad. He has been called a hypocrit in his actions for doing so along with other reasons. Does this not fit the bill of the exact same thing Pad has just done.

I already acknowledged the fact of him possibly missing the post. We are 3-4pages down the road and he still is missing it.

Watch how easy this is...

Pad: I'm not a hypocrit Braz, I didn't see your post or the one after.

Braz: My bad bro, no problem, sorry for calling you a hypocrit.

Actions have spoken louder than words though.

I apologize for not acknowledging your advice on post #201, I should have, I always regret engaging with idiots over the internet. Nobody ever wins and I end up with a more sour taste in my mouth than when I started. I just got sidetracked by the insane amount of stupid coming from oly's posts, being nice wasn't what I was interested in. There are certain people I know from this forum whose opinions I value, when they say something I know they've given it serious thought and based on previous conversations I already know it's coming from an educated, logical standpoint. That's not to say yours isn't, just that serious consideration is given and I like to respond in acknowledgment when I see someone make a post like that.

I disagree with you that I'm being hypocritical.

I am completely open and willing to hear oly's stance on his beliefs, he's already admitted he fears judgment from the rest of us, which would seem like a normal reaction for a person who feels simple questions are offensive would have. But he's proven himself incapable of doing that in a rational, calm, level-headed manner.

Not sure why a person would make a post in a thread about beliefs if they didn't want to talk about them...?

 

[olylifter420]

Did I ask you to show everyone else what I think? Or did someone ask how I think? Of course, you dont see it as an attack because you are the one who thinks im stupid cause of my beliefs, so you see no malintent with it... I never said my beliefs were so great, hypocrite, you are the one claiming to better then me cause of them... Now who is the one with "great beliefs?"

Like I said retard, I dont care to share anything with you cause of you! If you were a classmate of mine, then yeah, fuck it, I would love to share.my thoughts with you, but you are not... Call it an excuse, I call it avoiding an empty discussion with an atheist who only thinks to their advantage...


You are not open to a good discussion with me.cause of what you think of me(which I dont care) already.

How many times have you refused to accept my answer to your question?


ill get back when im on my laptop, im not done

hahahahahaha
having what YOU SAID in my signature is not an attack. that is showing others what you believe.

i think its sad that you automatically assume we are trying to put you down for asking questions. it makes debate with you impossible because you refuse to question your own beliefs. if you dont question them HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE RIGHT?! if you question them, and they prove to be true, more power to you. but to just believe it because thats the way you were raised is PURE IGNORANCE.

your beliefs matter to me because its a debate about beliefs. and you probably vote, which affects my life. but you seem to think that asking questions is somehow us trying to put you down. we have ZERO problem with you questioning our beliefs. and you have no problem shouting insults about how we are stupid atheists. but it hurts your feelings when we ask questions, so we are not allowed to? thats bullshit.

just because i disagree with you does not mean i wont listen to you. and now you are refusing to talk about your beliefs because you think we are going to just shoot you down. how am i supposed to know what you believe if you havent even told me?

if your beliefs are so great, why dont you share them with us? if you really believe them, you would never be embarrassed to tell them to others

 

[Padawanbater2]

I think it's funny that Atheists refuse to discuss why they don't openly support the killing of the followers of God and why they want to get gay married and why they don't eat people.

No atheist I know supports the killing of the followers of God.

I want to see equal opportunities given to all human beings, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I don't eat people because cows and chickens taste amazing!

In all seriousness, if these are real questions you actually had and aren't just exaggerating your position a little bit, you can always educate yourself, hope is never lost.

 

[olylifter420]

Also, why have you all ignored my other question I posted?

I see how you atheists on here think, very educated, hypocrites

 

[olylifter420]

Lmao, you dont think killing Gods followers is right, yet you live to crumble their beliefs! Fucking hypocrite! Open your eyes retard, all the stupid is your brain

No atheist I know supports the killing of the followers of God.

I want to see equal opportunities given to all human beings, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I don't eat people because cows and chickens taste amazing!

In all seriousness, if these are real questions you actually had and aren't just exaggerating your position a little bit, you can always educate yourself, hope is never lost.

 

[DelSlow]

I think it's funny that Atheists refuse to discuss why they don't openly support the killing of the followers of God and why they want to get gay married and why they don't eat people.

I'll give this a shot. While I may disagree with your beliefs, I still respect your right to believe whatever you want. That's more than I can say for religious crusaders who HAVE killed others for not believing. I think gay people should be able to get married if they want to. They are not harming anyone by getting married. On the other hand, homosexuals HAVE been killed in the name of the lord because the bible says it's wrong LuLz. I am not a cannibal because I have an abundant source of food. And I think it's strange lol. There are tribes however who do eat humans. They BELIEVE that eating their enemy gives them strength.

What say you, beardo?

 

[beardo]

No atheist I know supports the killing of the followers of God.

I want to see equal opportunities given to all human beings, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I don't eat people because cows and chickens taste amazing!

In all seriousness, if these are real questions you actually had and aren't just exaggerating your position a little bit, you can always educate yourself, hope is never lost.

What about Bill Gates?- why don't you support it? what if it could help you either economically or socially
Isn't marriage religious?
What do people taste like? How do you know their not way better than cows or chickens? why not find out? maybe they could sell it at the store.

 

[DelSlow]

Beardo, I mean no offense, but have you ever been classified as clinically insane?

 

[beardo]

Beardo, I mean no offense, but have you ever been classified as clinically insane?

I never heard that one I heard pshycotic and ADHD and paraniod schizo and conservitive and manic depressive, they wouldn't give me social security because I told them I rap for money and that it's a job and they said that since I work I dont get social security and they didn't care I don't get a check.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Lmao, you dont think killing Gods followers is right, yet you live to crumble their beliefs! Fucking hypocrite! Open your eyes retard, all the stupid is your brain

No, you just think that's what questioning someones beliefs is, when in reality there is no harm in asking questions about what someone believes in a public thread (I made) you voluntarily entered.

What about Bill Gates?- why don't you support it? what if it could help you either economically or socially
Isn't marriage religious?
What do people taste like? How do you know their not way better than cows or chickens? why not find out? maybe they could sell it at the store.

Rofl! What is up with your obsession with Bill Gates beardo?

If there are atheists out there who support killing anyone, they're fuckin' nuts bro! It's got absolutely nothing to do with atheism.

Marriage is a legal union, not religious. Atheists can get married, can they not?

I don't know what people taste like, I've never eaten anyone. I'd imagine something similar to any other primate. I don't actually eat people for many reasons. I'd have to find someone to kill to eat, actually kill them, then actually eat them.. Couldn't do any of those tasks. There are better alternatives. Whether I completely understand why or not, I find it to be off putting. Similar to eating cow brains, lengua, snake, insects, ect. Not saying in a survival situation I couldn't do it, just that I wouldn't eat human meat on a regular basis.

Point you're trying to make is...?

 

[Luger187]

Did I ask you to show everyone else what I think? Or did someone ask how I think? Of course, you dont see it as an attack because you are the one who thinks im stupid cause of my beliefs, so you see no malintent with it... I never said my beliefs were so great, hypocrite, you are the one claiming to better then me cause of them... Now who is the one with "great beliefs?"

Like I said retard, I dont care to share anything with you cause of you! If you were a classmate of mine, then yeah, fuck it, I would love to share.my thoughts with you, but you are not... Call it an excuse, I call it avoiding an empty discussion with an atheist who only thinks to their advantage...


You are not open to a good discussion with me.cause of what you think of me(which I dont care) already.

How many times have you refused to accept my answer to your question?


ill get back when im on my laptop, im not done

incase you havent noticed, quoting what others have said in signatures is pretty common. are you embarrassed others know you believe in god now?

i love how you are playing the victim here. you are not a victim, so stfu

you claim to not want to share your thoughts because we will attack you. why would we attack you for sharing your thoughts? there are other people in this thread who claimed to believe in a god, and gave their reasons why. they were not attacked at all. as long as you state your position clearly, we can debate it. obviously you cant because in most of your posts you are calling people names and insulting them. YOU are the one who is attacking others. do i bitch and complain when you attack me? no

why do you think im some demon that will jump on your back because you believe in god? oh thats right! because im an atheist!

 

[Luger187]

Also, why have you all ignored my other question I posted?

I see how you atheists on here think, very educated, hypocrites

your question doesnt deserve a response because you act like a child.

Lmao, you dont think killing Gods followers is right, yet you live to crumble their beliefs! Fucking hypocrite! Open your eyes retard, all the stupid is your brain

debunking religion is not the same as murder. open your eyes retard!

btw, thanks for the new sig

 

[Xeno420]

I like this whole thread ^_^

If God, the Angels and the heavens were well before Satan, why did He/She/It create it then. God is supposed to be Alfa and Omega. Nothing is supposed to be impossible for God, so I guess He/She/It knew that the whole thing would come crashing down. It's been written in Revelation in Western Religion and there are certain Helter Skelter assholes waiting for the Rapture to happen, there are other HS assholes making it happen. Religion is nothing but conspiracy for the powers to maintain those powers while everyone follows blindly.

 

[beardo]

No, you just think that's what questioning someones beliefs is, when in reality there is no harm in asking questions about what someone believes in a public thread (I made) you voluntarily entered.



Rofl! What is up with your obsession with Bill Gates beardo?

If there are atheists out there who support killing anyone, they're fuckin' nuts bro! It's got absolutely nothing to do with atheism.

Marriage is a legal union, not religious. Atheists can get married, can they not?

I don't know what people taste like, I've never eaten anyone. I'd imagine something similar to any other primate. I don't actually eat people for many reasons. I'd have to find someone to kill to eat, actually kill them, then actually eat them.. Couldn't do any of those tasks. There are better alternatives. Whether I completely understand why or not, I find it to be off putting. Similar to eating cow brains, lengua, snake, insects, ect. Not saying in a survival situation I couldn't do it, just that I wouldn't eat human meat on a regular basis.

Point you're trying to make is...?

Gates wants us to stop breathing- and he is putting huge money into vaccinating people and talking about lowering population.
What do you think the military is for? I know their are supposed religious people at all ranks but I view the war machine as a Godless one with no true men of God at it's head.
Marriage is legal and religious it is done by a preist in a church united in the eyes of God- I believe in gay legal partnership if they are unable to quit being gay and have the gay gene or whatever but leave the Religious the term marriage and the use of preists and churches. Atheists shouldn't be allowed to marry either.
Eating people could reduce world hunger and remedy over population It could reduce prison populations and health care costs. People probably taste diffrent from primates because of less excercise and a diffrent diet.