6under6 GDP

4tatude

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this i copies from a post by doobie brothers just now, hope you dont mind doobie its an important pc imo, n shows lots of info we should know n understand
As we partake of a hundred different strains brought about by the busy hands and ingenious minds of the breeders out there, we should all take a big toke while we think about the works in genetics done by Gregor Mendel:


http://anthro.palomar.edu/mendel/mendel_1.htm
 

4tatude

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as more n more gray shows in my hair i look more for the easy way of doing things. now easy dont necesarily compromise quality just pucking makes it easier... n im all for easy.
decided ive about moved my last bucket... gona do an easy make on a undercurrent system. eveeryone thinks it going to be expensive but most people growing has most of the necesary items laying around.
lets make it simple. figure how you want your lay out
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get yourself some gromets, these are for 1 1/4" sch 40 pvc. granger has them for 16bucks for 25. a 2" hole saw hd for 14bucks n a stick of 1 1/4" pipe
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lay out n drill your holes according to the configuration youve chosen
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clean burrs n insert gromet
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cut pipe to length at a 45* angle. this will allow you to get through gromet, its a very tight fit
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this is what you see from above
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easy to assemble or take apart once built. stacks neatly n takes up amazingly little space
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im not finished fabricating just setting up. ill show changes when they occur. i got good feelings about this set up...
 

onthedl0008

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Very Niice 4T. That may have very well what I've been needing to think about man! Ideas.
Also had a quick question. On the GDP.
HOW u feeding ur girls. Piicky? Cruching them? Ppm? Boosters just reg nutes?
This info would be quite helpfull rite now if u have a chance sir.
Thanks and peace.
Lol don't be surprised if u see me rocckin something very similar to that undercurrent man!
 

4tatude

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Very Niice 4T. That may have very well what I've been needing to think about man! Ideas.
Also had a quick question. On the GDP.
HOW u feeding ur girls. Piicky? Cruching them? Ppm? Boosters just reg nutes?
This info would be quite helpfull rite now if u have a chance sir.
Thanks and peace.
Lol don't be surprised if u see me rocckin something very similar to that undercurrent man!
0008 my cut likes high nutes in the veg stage but is a little pickey in flower. doesnt like high nutes does better in the 800ppm range tho will do 1200 fine in veg. n seems to need a lot of cal mag or it shows a def. they drink lots of water, guess its the bushyness tanspiring water but it requires a lot. other than that its a breeze. oh be carefull of pm due to high veg growth, lotsa air movement required. they dont take to pruning like the kush strains.jmo
 

onthedl0008

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K thanks 4T that's exactly what I was looking for. And like mins said ill be watching the rest of the build with intent lolz
 

Dezracer

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That will be a nice system when finished. I'm not envious yet but I'm sure I will be soon enough, hehe.

I went back and forth between hydro and soil when I started things back up recently and decided on soil so I can do a small perpetual in a single tent. Otherwise I would've set up my flooded tube system since it seemed to give me the fastest growth rates and was the simplest to maintain. I bet that undercurrent is pretty simple to keep track of.

How can you argue with 16-24oz per 600w light? Especially when 16oz was the smalles yield and the average was closer to 20.
 

4tatude

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ok so i put everything togeather this evening, took a couple hours start to finish

here is an overhead view of the system. six grow buckets n one for res/mixing/checking ph n ppms.
with the fluid levels at 2" from top it took 21 gallons. they are 3 gallon buckets or close.
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the mixer end has the return n pump. as fluid is pumped from the other end it creates a negative pressure throughout the system n flow throughout occurs.
i put a valve at the pump for maintenance reasons, good thin i did its the only thing that leaked. got to get a real in line pump.
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the back end it just a t that ties in the pump. impoprtant!!! equal lengths are essential for propper flow on both sides.
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close up of pump n valve at return.
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this is a 396 gph eco pump n i think is about the right size, the levels balance out within a 1/2inch at full blast.
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here is a 1/2 in flow, very sufficient for a system of this size.
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this set up is designed to fit a 4x4 tent. it can easily be expanded or made into a 2 or 4 plant set up depending on what your size is. the flexability of this set up is great. if it turns out to be as easy as it appears i plan on setting up 3 units for a perpetual grow set up.
being a diy type n always on the look out for free usable items, i built this whole system including pump for less than a hundred bucks.
the free items were the buckets, got then at a mexican restaurant trash heap:) yougart n cream was in them. a little elbo grease n they are sparkling clean.
a comparable undercurrent system on line is about a grand to 1500 bucks. i figure i made 900 bucks in a few hours. not bad wages for a stoner :)
 

bekindbud

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I would +REP you but I need to spread some.....Very nice, clean and professional set up there!!!! 4Tat rocking shit out as always!

Peace

BKB
 

Mineralz

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Supz 4t! Man thank you sooo much for sharing those undercurrent pics! You've inspired me to construct my own for my next round scrog in a 3x3 tent as well ;) Finally found the Uniseals I was looking for online btw:D $40 for 10 of them, but almost $10 of that was shipping. Eh...I figure it'll pay itself off soon enough ya know? Nywayz, I'm lookin 4ward to your next round of pics of the ladiez. +Rep for the DIY...alwayz a pleasure
 

onthedl0008

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ok so i put everything togeather this evening, took a couple hours start to finish

here is an overhead view of the system. six grow buckets n one for res/mixing/checking ph n ppms.
with the fluid levels at 2" from top it took 21 gallons. they are 3 gallon buckets or close.
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the mixer end has the return n pump. as fluid is pumped from the other end it creates a negative pressure throughout the system n flow throughout occurs.
i put a valve at the pump for maintenance reasons, good thin i did its the only thing that leaked. got to get a real in line pump.
View attachment 1702655

the back end it just a t that ties in the pump. impoprtant!!! equal lengths are essential for propper flow on both sides.
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close up of pump n valve at return.
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this is a 396 gph eco pump n i think is about the right size, the levels balance out within a 1/2inch at full blast.
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here is a 1/2 in flow, very sufficient for a system of this size.
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this set up is designed to fit a 4x4 tent. it can easily be expanded or made into a 2 or 4 plant set up depending on what your size is. the flexability of this set up is great. if it turns out to be as easy as it appears i plan on setting up 3 units for a perpetual grow set up.
being a diy type n always on the look out for free usable items, i built this whole system including pump for less than a hundred bucks.
the free items were the buckets, got then at a mexican restaurant trash heap:) yougart n cream was in them. a little elbo grease n they are sparkling clean.
a comparable undercurrent system on line is about a grand to 1500 bucks. i figure i made 900 bucks in a few hours. not bad wages for a stoner :)
Real niice 4T and thanks for takeing the time to throw that buildtorial together.
 

4tatude

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Real niice 4T and thanks for takeing the time to throw that buildtorial together.
no problem dl, ive ran the system round the clock for 2 days now. i actually bumped the pots to point of moving n everything is powder dry except the pump. i placed a pan under while running test. once ive got a good pump it should be cherry. im looking to also set up a 9 banger for the next round, same set up little diferent design. all undercurrent systems presently on the market only have multiples of 2. ive desighed a way to do multiples of 3 n will post in the future.
 

onthedl0008

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Thanks 4T Ur inline pump undercurrent build is exactly what I needed to see and is what gonna work best in my grow I haven't seen it before and its most def my answer for recirculation in my system I have to stay ground level but ur rite with the best pump u can keep um rrdwc easy with the qquickeness I think its ingenious. Ill keep u posted man I'm gonna be putting something together real soon as I just added a second six hundo and will be freed up soon. Its pimp bro props. Perfect for stealth and peeps with hieght restrictions. Many respects. Peace.
 
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