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BSIv2.0

BSIv2.0

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I saw a side by side with HID vs LED. LED wasnt too bad in veg. But like you said....flowering is something different.

The light is cool as hell......as just a light. I'd love to get one just to chill and smoke out in. :mrgreen::blsmoke:
 
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serrated

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I agree, I just get annoyed when someone says "not too good for..." when they probably have never seen a 5w LED that will light up my yard bright as day. Not trying offend but, has anyone tried these new 1w or 5w LEDs?
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Well I said not so good for growing as an pretty expirenced grower I have seen led grows and yet to see a good one. We all know cfls produce poorly and leds even worst.But i see you dont take me for much of knowing about growing so go to youtube and search led grows and you will see about a dozen sorry led grows so like I said after you watch those..not much for growing
 
BSIv2.0

BSIv2.0

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They do suck. That 1st one....which is the one I originally saw left me thinking "maybe in 10 years". Besides...that LED could only handle one plant. A 400W can handle a bunch more.

So even the yield that they showed wasnt even right. The HPS should have been X's 2 at least. w/more plants.

Maybe for moms and clones....I wouldnt do anything more.
 
BSIv2.0

BSIv2.0

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And the LED plant had to flower an extra 2 weeks to finish to produce only 36g vs. 91g. The HPS plant was taken at 56 days. The LED at day 70.
 
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serrated

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Fletch...I agree most of those on youtube suck, and I was not trying to offend, I was simply stating that people judge too quickly. You do know how to grow, I was not saying that you did not. but a multiple specturm LED that you can change may make a differance to growing, who the hell knows the plants may love green LEDs, but noone is going to spend $400 to test differant colors, so for 32 I am going to try it and see how it goes, I will let you guys know.
I'll veg some Jock Horror and post some pics.
 
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serrated

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to add to my last post,
maybe a plant needs trace amounts of green, yellow, white light to grow properly??? LEDs provide pure color you can get exactly 480nm, but is there a chance that you need all the colors in trace amounts to make the "correct" spectrum work. All we ever worry about is blue for veg and red for flower. but maybe blue needs yellow to work correctly and the LED growers are doing it wrong, after all a person can NOT survive in pure o2 they need it diluted. a plant may not do well in just red or blue

has anyone tried a "full spectrum" LED??? I have never seen one but the point I was making was this may be the closest thing and may work better than HID, I know it is a long shot but for 32$ why the hell not.
 
natmoon

natmoon

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The 5watt leds are good for growing but they are still to expensive at the moment.
They emit a whole lot more light than you would expect them to.
You need to purchase proper 5 watt leds though that have the correct wavelengths for a successful grow.

These 5watt leds are in my opinion the only leds capable of giving a great grow.

If you have the money and the time to use these 5 watt leds to grow with i reckon you would need at least 4 blue and 4 red per plant.
Here are the ones that i was going to use when i researched them and the pics i have posted are the correct wavelengths.

You can also add warm white or just white as well if you want to.
I would recommend using blue and red at the same time all the way through the grow:blsmoke:

Blue spectrum.
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED blue 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 7,1V
Current: 700mA
Wave Length: 470nm (blue)
Brightness: 40 Lumen[/FONT]



Red spectrum.
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED red 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 4,4V
Current: 700mA
Wave Length: 625nm (red)
Brightness: 120 Lumen[/FONT]

 
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