Whats Ron Pauls Jobs Plan

[UncleBuck]

if it was voluntary it would not be a mandate, and the not going to jail part is up to future interpretation of the law, not supposed interpretation now, you say paranoia i say understanding history

when did i say it was voluntary?

and it is a non-criminal penalty if you don't pay it. no jail.

 

[redivider]

the individual mandate was a republican idea too....

 

[londonfog]

if you grew you own, you would be committing an act of terrorism in the government's eyes

and Ron Paul would stop this ???

 

[Prefontaine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQnbNspHsk

 

[Prefontaine]

and Ron Paul would stop this ???

um yeah, duh, thats one of his main platforms, that the federal government is not constitutinoally allowed to interfere with matters under state jurisdiction

 

[UncleBuck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQnbNspHsk

still not terrorism, only manufacture of a controlled substance.

you don't take being wrong too well, do ya? some people learn from being wrong, others dig their heels into the sand, shove their fingers in their ears, and act like children.

 

[Prefontaine]

so why do you keep asking the same things that have already been covered on every other thread where you have tried to bash ron paul?

 

[UncleBuck]

um yeah, duh, thats one of his main platforms, that the federal government is not constitutinoally allowed to interfere with matters under state jurisdiction

you honestly thin that ron paul will re-legalize cannabis?

ain't gonna happen. that is going to be up to us to do through voter initiatives.

 

[londonfog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVQnbNspHsk

this is Republican thinking...the same party Ron Paul trying to run with

 

[UncleBuck]

so why do you keep asking the same things that have already been covered on every other thread where you have tried to bash ron paul?

i'm not sure what this has to do with you continuing to lie, be caught in your lie, and yet still proclaim you are not lying.

lying is also interchangeable with exaggerating.

 

[Prefontaine]

still not terrorism, only manufacture of a controlled substance.

you don't take being wrong too well, do ya? some people learn from being wrong, others dig their heels into the sand, shove their fingers in their ears, and act like children.

well i may not have a sound bit on hand, but i do recall on more than one occasion bush specifically stating that marijuana use supports terrorism and that the war on drugs was a war on terrorism, and if you dont think growing marijuana, purchasing quanitities of marijuana, or discussing the manufacture of marijuana doesnt make you suspect of being a lone wolf terrorist, expecially if you do have military training, which by the way makes you even more dangerous to the federal government than an average citizen then you are the one who is dellusional

 

[Prefontaine]

you honestly thin that ron paul will re-legalize cannabis?

ain't gonna happen. that is going to be up to us to do through voter initiatives.

cannabis is already legal in many states, it is illegal acts by the DEA and other federal entities that ron paul will stop

 

[UncleBuck]

well i may not have a sound bit on hand, but i do recall on more than one occasion bush specifically stating that marijuana use supports terrorism and that the war on drugs was a war on terrorism, and if you dont think growing marijuana, purchasing quanitities of marijuana, or discussing the manufacture of marijuana doesnt make you suspect of being a lone wolf terrorist, expecially if you do have military training, which by the way makes you even more dangerous to the federal government than an average citizen then you are the one who is dellusional

you are mistaking an ad campaign for actual judicial proceedings. it is one of those "tells" that lets me know how far down that rabbit hole you are.

can you show me one case where a weed grower has been charged with terrorism rather than manufacture of a controlled substance?

if you can, i will apologize to you at once and mail you an ounce of god bud.

 

[Prefontaine]

So why are you so ashamed of yourself that you dont believe you have the right to govern yourself? What do you think if we stop forcing our interests overseas the canadians will think we are weak and invade? what is it that makes you think if we dont have the TSA we will have planes flying into every big building we have? what are you afraid of? is it your neighbor? what?

 

[UncleBuck]

So why are you so ashamed of yourself that you dont believe you have the right to govern yourself? What do you think if we stop forcing our interests overseas the canadians will think we are weak and invade? what is it that makes you think if we dont have the TSA we will have planes flying into every big building we have? what are you afraid of? is it your neighbor? what?

i am afraid of the ignorance of my fellow citizen more than anything else, with lack of compassion coming in a close second.

i especially worry about people like you, who don't know the difference between an ad campaign and actual judicial proceedings.

 

[Prefontaine]

you are mistaking an ad campaign for actual judicial proceedings. it is one of those "tells" that lets me know how far down that rabbit hole you are.

can you show me one case where a weed grower has been charged with terrorism rather than manufacture of a controlled substance?

if you can, i will apologize to you at once and mail you an ounce of god bud.

what judicial proceedings? terrorism is not a crime with which you are charged, it is a label placed on you for allegedly comiting a crime with and alleged intent, that means the goverment can access your bank account and credit cards to monitor your finances in order to decide whether you are a terrorist or not. what makes you think that growing marijuna, a crime in the eyes of federal government and one that may indicate ties to organized crime and therefore terrorism, guess that might be a little to much actual thought for you to work out on your own, especially since you seem so comfortable with being told how to think about things

 

[londonfog]

So why are you so ashamed of yourself that you dont believe you have the right to govern yourself? What do you think if we stop forcing our interests overseas the canadians will think we are weak and invade? what is it that makes you think if we dont have the TSA we will have planes flying into every big building we have? what are you afraid of? is it your neighbor? what?

hey just get rid of them all ... IRS DHS TSA ATF DEA FDA SSA DOE FBI ED NSA CIA DOD EPA FCC CDC .... everyman for himself good luck

 

[redivider]

ron paul cannot stop the DEA...

the DEA has the power by law to enforce drug regulations. congress gave up the power to legislate on the legality of drugs to the executive branch of the government, the DEA and FDA.

i went through a loooong debate about this a long time ago...

you can't just legislate marijuana into legality. first it doesn't have any support in either house of congress, second of all the power to do that was taken away from the legislative branch of government and passed to the Executive.

as a matter of law you need to repeal the drug prohibition law first. which would disband the DEA and strip the FDA of a whole lot of regulatory power...

if you think ron paul can just legalize weed, the guys that wrote the law purposefully made it almost an impossibility for the law to be repealed or for it's regulations to be superseded by legislative action.....

 

[Prefontaine]

i am afraid of the ignorance of my fellow citizen more than anything else, with lack of compassion coming in a close second.

i especially worry about people like you, who don't know the difference between an ad campaign and actual judicial proceedings.

once again judicial proceedings dont decide how the patriot act is enacted, judicial proceedings are reserved for the actual prosecution for a crime, and being a "lone wolf terrorist" is not a specific crime meaning that it is only a label used to describe a certain type of person which is loosely defined as any civilian who may pose a threat to the institution.

Martin Luther King Jr would be considered a possible terrorist and in fact was considered an actual terrorist, the difference is back then they had to assasinate MLK JR, these days they just have to arrest you.

 

[londonfog]

ron paul cannot stop the DEA...

the DEA has the power by law to enforce drug regulations. congress gave up the power to legislate on the legality of drugs to the executive branch of the government, the DEA and FDA.

i went through a loooong debate about this a long time ago...

you can't just legislate marijuana into legality. first it doesn't have any support in either house of congress, second of all the power to do that was taken away from the legislative branch of government and passed to the Executive.

as a matter of law you need to repeal the drug prohibition law first. which would disband the DEA and strip the FDA of a whole lot of regulatory power...

if you think ron paul can just legalize weed, the guys that wrote the law purposefully made it almost an impossibility for the law to be repealed or for it's regulations to be superseded by legislative action.....

Fuck you ..Ron Paul is the truth and he can get it done....Do you see how many threads are on RIU about him...he is a REVOLUTION....putting koolaid down now