Who Believes In God?

[Cannabolic]

Alot of people believe that if you smoke weed, that you dont, but who put weed here, so how can it be wrong, I am not religous, but i am on FIRE FOR CHRIST, but i am not a person who judges, and i feel no one has the right.

GENESIS 1:12 "and the earth brought forth grass and HERB yeilding seed after his kind, and the tree yeilding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and god saw that it was good". meaning god placed the herbs and the fruits on the earth and it represented himself.

so the way i see it. not smoking herb would be like a slap in the face to god because we are pretty much dissin somthin that is a representation of our father.

 

[Cannabolic]

i believe in god because thats what i knew since i was a little boy. plus salvation has become a nessesity for civilized society. without god, there is no more reason to love. everyone would kill eachother because there would be no fear of hell. people would diminish to the simplisity of nature and grown men would start fuckin 12 year old girls, to have kids. we would pretty much go back to the dark ages and the world as we know it would be over. me personally i believe in god. and i believe in jesus christ. so even if god is a lie then i would rather live my life believing that lie. doing what i can as a christian in hopes that i go to heaven when i die. but when i die and im not in heavin, im just in a hole. then fuck it. i don't care im dead. at least i died with love in my heart. with hopes that they will open up thoes pearly gates and pass me a blunt. and direct me to the poker table. lol

 

[email468]

i believe in god because thats what i knew since i was a little boy. plus salvation has become a nessesity for civilized society. without god, there is no more reason to love. everyone would kill eachother because there would be no fear of hell. people would diminish to the simplisity of nature and grown men would start fuckin 12 year old girls, to have kids. we would pretty much go back to the dark ages and the world as we know it would be over. me personally i believe in god. and i believe in jesus christ. so even if god is a lie then i would rather live my life believing that lie. doing what i can as a christian in hopes that i go to heaven when i die. but when i die and im not in heavin, im just in a hole. then fuck it. i don't care im dead. at least i died with love in my heart. with hopes that they will open up thoes pearly gates and pass me a blunt. and direct me to the poker table. lol

I respect your right to believe what you want however you make some assumptions about non-believers that I would like to refute. I do not believe in god and i do not participate in nor do i advocate the heinous crimes you enumerate in your post. Further, i would recommend you do some serious soul searching if the only thing preventing you from doing these terrible things is a tenuous belief system. I would also argue that science, not god, was the cause of the enlightenment. I mean no offense but your bold statements prompted me to respond.

 

[Cannabolic]

I respect your right to believe what you want however you make some assumptions about non-believers that I would like to refute. I do not believe in god and i do not participate in nor do i advocate the heinous crimes you enumerate in your post. Further, i would recommend you do some serious soul searching if the only thing preventing you from doing these terrible things is a tenuous belief system. I would also argue that science, not god, was the cause of the enlightenment. I mean no offense but your bold statements prompted me to respond.

listen, im sorry if you took offense to what i said.and i respect your opinon as well. not to say non believers dont have goodness in their hearts (one of my best friends is a non believer) but think about how many ppl there are that practice christanity. if all thoes ppl found out that there wassent a god what do you think would happen? i kno if i found out there wassent a god. i would be like "fuck it" and all the things i pratice would be thrown out the window.why do you think the roman catholic church hid the thruth about jesus christ? because they were afraid that the church would lose fallowers. and as far as the enlighenment your right. its mostly science.(hence enlightenment) but im not talking about the enlightenment. im talking about somthing that was taught for thousands of years being nothing but some campfire stories. and yes a big reason why i don't do terrible things is because of my religion. because think about it if you grew up in a society where killing someone or robbing someone wouldn't be wrong, would doing so be doing somthing bad? think about this in the united states its Illegal to murder someone why? because our country is built from christianity and murder is in the commandments. if god said it was ok to kill i think it would be legal to kill someone in the united states.
my example:the middle east. they run by a diffrient set of rules. and the a countries government represents their religion. and to us killing yourself for your people is wrong. BUT to them its right, its holy. so whoes to say whoes right or wrong when it comes to morality so bottom line i don't do terrible things because the bible (which is where alot of our laws come from) tells me not to. and the bible helps me to be a better person. and it gives me a reason to do so. and god or no god if you live in the united states and you fallow the basic laws then you fallowing the bible which is the word of god.

 

[email468]

listen, im sorry if you took offense to what i said.and i respect your opinon as well. not to say non believers dont have goodness in their hearts (one of my best friends is a non believer) but think about how many ppl there are that practice christanity. if all thoes ppl found out that there wassent a god what do you think would happen? i kno if i found out there wassent a god. i would be like "fuck it" and all the things i pratice would be thrown out the window.why do you think the roman catholic church hid the thruth about jesus christ? because they were afraid that the church would lose fallowers. and as far as the enlighenment your right. its mostly science.(hence enlightenment) but im not talking about the enlightenment. im talking about somthing that was taught for thousands of years being nothing but some campfire stories. and yes a big reason why i don't do terrible things is because of my religion. because think about it if you grew up in a society where killing someone or robbing someone wouldn't be wrong, would doing so be doing somthing bad? think about this in the united states its Illegal to murder someone why? because our country is built from christianity and murder is in the commandments. if god said it was ok to kill i think it would be legal to kill someone in the united states.
my example:the middle east. they run by a diffrient set of rules. and the a countries government represents their religion. and to us killing yourself for your people is wrong. BUT to them its right, its holy. so whoes to say whoes right or wrong when it comes to morality so bottom line i don't do terrible things because the bible (which is where alot of our laws come from) tells me not to. and the bible helps me to be a better person. and it gives me a reason to do so. and god or no god if you live in the united states and you fallow the basic laws then you fallowing the bible which is the word of god.

It's cool. I think I get what you're saying and I think you get what I'm saying too. That is religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality and nearly all religions have the downside of being able to be twisted into a terrible caricature of itself. One of my favorite and often quoted sayings is - it takes nothing for an evil man to commit evil acts, but in order for a good man to commit evil acts - it takes religion.

I wasn't offended personally but was hoping that we agreed that there are non-theistic, atheistic, and agnostic folks that are moral. And we do - I wish all believers were as cool about non-belief (or different beliefs) as you.

 

[crazy-mental]

Zeitgeist - The Movie
i believe this.
not a book of lies.

 

[Wikidbchofthewst]

I believe in God. I was raised Catholic, but I have a lot of problems with the Church. Not just because of the child molesting priests. Throughout history the Church has done a lot of wrong while hiding behind the name of God.

But no matter what there is wrong with the Church, I do believe in God. The most logical way I've ever heard it explained is the whole Unmoved Mover.

1. There exists movement in the world.
2. Things that move were set into motion by something else.
3. If everything that moves was caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.
4. Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.
5. From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.
6. From 4, there must be an unmoved mover.

 

[Cannabolic]

It's cool. I think I get what you're saying and I think you get what I'm saying too. That is religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality and nearly all religions have the downside of being able to be twisted into a terrible caricature of itself. One of my favorite and often quoted sayings is - it takes nothing for an evil man to commit evil acts, but in order for a good man to commit evil acts - it takes religion.

I wasn't offended personally but was hoping that we agreed that there are non-theistic, atheistic, and agnostic folks that are moral. And we do - I wish all believers were as cool about non-belief (or different beliefs) as you.

lol yea thats my fault for not explaining myself. i kinda re-read what i wrote as an agnostic and i was like "damn i'd be pissed if i saw that" but na im not saying you don't have morals. and that quote u posed is true (hence the crusades) lol. and when it comes to religion there is no right or wrong, you pretty much live life the best way you can and hope things work out for the best. some people fallow what their parents and grandparents told them and keep it movin. myself, i try to keep the same princibles but i try to think for myself when it comes to religion u kno?

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

This thread makes me laugh why must people get on like assholes if some 1 believes theres a god or not if u do or dont believe what diffrence does it make to anothers life if your at peace with what you believe it should not make any diffrence to you at all ,

Then theres the other asshole that post pics saying religion is always getting rammed in your face just to insult or be annoying ..again its just other people view or beliefs why feel the need to get your knickers in a twist over it or try and be insulting i dunno

What diffrence does it make to your life what another person believes ?

 

[crazy-mental]

This thread makes me laugh why must people get on like assholes if some 1 believes theres a god or not if u do or dont believe what diffrence does it make to anothers life if your at peace with what you believe it should not make any diffrence to you at all ,

Then theres the other asshole that post pics saying religion is always getting rammed in your face just to insult or be annoying ..again its just other people view or beliefs why feel the need to get your knickers in a twist over it or try and be insulting i dunno

What diffrence does it make to your life what another person believes ?

because they never shut about, a man in the sky.lol
as if.

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

because they never shut about, a man in the sky.lol
as if.

Dont be 1 of the idiots crazy horse

No 1 forces nothing on no 1 or has it been seen on this thread its every 1s free choice to make up there mind what they believe , with out some silly moron shuting out silly comments

 

[Barrelhse]

Absolutely not. Such an absurd concept.

 

[willgrow1day]

'SO CALLED' mary' was raped,or she was A slut,
this world revolves fake white man bull shit, jesus is fake.

 

[jollygreengiant8]

afterlife or heaven or whatever you want to call it all seems a little too fairytale for me...im pretty sure that when you die, youre dead and thats it. we only have a short time in life and i dont want to shortchange anything just bc jesus said dont do it.

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

'SO CALLED' mary' was raped,or she was A slut,
this world revolves fake white man bull shit, jesus is fake.

hehe just another idiot that has no piece of faith in his own belifes so he just Insults what he cant understand

some 1 send me a private pm saying thats how u came about man thats why it makes u so angry with others thoughts

 

[1puff2puff3puff]

I think this is the STUPIDEST comment made thus far!!! I sent you the PM Shoot...lol j/k!!

'SO CALLED' mary' was raped,or she was A slut,
this world revolves fake white man bull shit, jesus is fake.

 

[cream8]

wow...you guys are really having a deep conversation here.not

 

[LiveHigh]

I believe in God. I was raised Catholic, but I have a lot of problems with the Church. Not just because of the child molesting priests. Throughout history the Church has done a lot of wrong while hiding behind the name of God.

But no matter what there is wrong with the Church, I do believe in God. The most logical way I've ever heard it explained is the whole Unmoved Mover.

1. There exists movement in the world.
2. Things that move were set into motion by something else.
3. If everything that moves was caused to move by something else, there would be an infinite chain of causes. This can't happen.
4. Thus, there must have been something that caused the first movement.
5. From 3, this first cause cannot itself have been moved.
6. From 4, there must be an unmoved mover.

Haha. Okay, and there is no such thing as stillness without movement.

I've read numerous people post these little multi-step if/then statements, and all of them are ridiculous. I mean, seriously, can you read those 6 steps and come out of it thinking, "Yeah! There has to be a God!"

So what's your logic for how the unmoved mover came about? You didn't seem to have to investigate that at all. It's, like, if yadayadayada then there must be a God. Well, I have news for you: The existence of God is equally as impossible as the existence of the world (more like impossible for us to conceive). But, not only is the existence of God impossible; it is incredibly illogical. Atleat we have science discovering more day by day. It wont be long before science unravels exactly what happened to create this crazy place.

Need you forget how complex this universe is? If there was a God, why on earth we he make this place so incredibly complicated and fucked up? Why would there be, undoubtedly, millions of uninhabited stars, doing nothing but wasting space (literally). If there was going to be an all powerful God that could do or create anything they wished, they would certainly make a simple and effective world. Also where did God exist in before he created the world? If he came before the world. If God doesn't have a body, and can exist even in supposed nothingness, how does he create ANYTHING? No mind to imagine it upon. No hands to build it. No mouth to speak it. Nothing.

God is an imagined and fantastical explanation to why we're here. There is something wrong if you can't see that. It's as obvious as 2+2 to an intelligent person.

 

[boooky]

If I was god would you guys suck my penis?

Thats the real question here...What would you do for god?!?! Suck his penis!?!

This might seem harsh but im high and this is way better conversation...Lets say your concept is right......BUT...To get to heaven you have to suck "Gods" dick....You going to heaven? Or walking back down the stairs with me a Woody Harelson?

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

If I was god would you guys suck my penis?

Thats the real question here...What would you do for god?!?! Suck his penis!?!

This might seem harsh but im high and this is way better conversation...Lets say your concept is right......BUT...To get to heaven you have to suck "Gods" dick....You going to heaven? Or walking back down the stairs with me a Woody Harelson?

Im guessing u were high 1 night and some 1 talked u into sucking there penis in order to get too heaven ... no ?