how to power computer fan

Endur0xX

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I found a bunch of computer fans and I want to power them without the computer in a small grow cabinet (LED experiment) and I am not sure how, I am familiar with the basics ( + - and ground ) but I want to make sure it is no fire hazard, can someone help me out as to how to power them? Thanks!
 

MrBosco

Member
Do you have access to any obsolete computer equipment? If so then the cheapest way might be to take the power supply unit (PSU) from an old computer and use that. If you don't have access to any scrap computers then you'll want to buy a general-use power supply, and if you want to have the capability of running the fans at full speed then you'll need one with a 12V DC output that supports the total load of all your fans put together. Each of your fans will have number printed on it relating to how much current it will draw at 12V (such as 0.5A for example). Add these numbers up to figure out how many amps your fans will draw in total and buy a power supply to support that load - example to run 6 fans at 0.5A each you'll need a 12VDC power supply rated for 3 amps or more at that voltage.

Once you have your power supply sorted post again for details on how to wire up the specific type of power supply you have available.
 

Dennis Rodman

Active Member
You can buy an adapter at radioshack.
The guys there should be able to help you with how many amps you need to run your fans, as well as whether you should wire them in series or in parallel.
 

Endur0xX

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thx! I got a couple old computer kicking around ... I will first look into using them ( I guess I would have to use the motherboard!? ) I just dont want fire hazard... perhaps I might just go to radioshack like you say! thx
 

Nusky

New Member
a power adapter is way better than tricking a power supply into thinking its plugged in. Thats just asking for a problem. I got two adapters rigged up right now.
 

Jakabok Botch

Well-Known Member
a power adapter is way better than tricking a power supply into thinking its plugged in. Thats just asking for a problem. I got two adapters rigged up right now.
Y???thats what iv dont...now if theres a storm or a surge it trips the switch instead of blowin ur fans....its not hard to do(just ground it out) if uv already got the parts
 

SlimJim503

Well-Known Member
coolerguys dot come
Newegg dot com

Search those two site everything you would need to run pc fans cooler has everything you would need.
 

Nusky

New Member
Y???thats what iv dont...now if theres a storm or a surge it trips the switch instead of blowin ur fans....its not hard to do(just ground it out) if uv already got the parts
well it says right on the case not to modify or open it at all unless you're a qualified technician. It just seems like a fire hazard to me. It thinks its plugged into a motherboard 24/7, if something happens there could be a fire. Hell you could kill your self doing it, its a power supply! Same reason who you don't work on monitors and TVs, you could kill your self if you touch the wrong spot very easily.

Using the power supply won't do anything, if theres a storm or a surge your power supply will just die unless you hook it up to a surge protector. There is no protection on a power supply alone.
 

Jakabok Botch

Well-Known Member
Same reason who you don't work on monitors and TVs,
correction.....why you dont

i dont do it because its a waste of time and money

yes the power supply can hold a charge but unless ur lickin wires or playin with ur feet in the tub ull be ok....
 

Nusky

New Member
correction.....why you dont

i dont do it because its a waste of time and money

yes the power supply can hold a charge but unless ur lickin wires or playin with ur feet in the tub ull be ok....
if only it was that hard. One slip with something metal like a soldering iron or a screw driver in the right spot can kill you. Electricity is no joke and shouldn't be done by amateurs.
 

Jakabok Botch

Well-Known Member
if only it was that hard. One slip with something metal like a soldering iron or a screw driver in the right spot can kill you. Electricity is no joke and shouldn't be done by amateurs.
too late.....iv been messin with it all my life....still alive only zapped once lol (thats how u learn not to put dc in ac......)

when ppl say "shouldn't be done by amateurs" iv learnt thats slang for "read up on this itl be kinda fun"
 

smokey mcsmokester

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I didnt bother reading all these posts so someone may have stated this already but all you need is a 12 volt adapter 60hrtz....Heres a pic of what they basicaly look like Just make sure they say 12 volts...I have quite a few of these laying around the house from answerting machines, portable game systems, ect.... there are two wires on the plug, the black wire on the plug that has a stripe is power..wire the striped black power wire of the adapter to the red wire of the fan. then wire the black wire from the adapter to the black wire of the fan.. good luck with your grow...
 

Thorn3

Member
Hello all. New here. I ran across this thread and felt I needed to post some helpful information. Sorry for the long post. I am long winded. Computer power supplies are 'switch mode' type power supplies. Wall-warts, like the one pictured in the previous post are 'linear' power supplies. Switch mode power supplies are typically more expensive, but are far more efficient. They don't waste energy like linear type supplies. Both linear supplies and switch mode supplies come in a variety of voltages and currents. Both are readily available from literally thousands of suppliers online or in local stores.

A linear power supply generally consists of a transformer, a half wave (sometimes full wave) bridge rectifier and a filter capacitor. The transformer drops the line voltage (110-120 volts from the outlet) down to the voltage required, such as 12 volts in the case of computer type fans. But, this voltage is still AC... not the DC voltage required by such fans. To convert the voltage to DC, the bridge rectifier is used. It is a clever use of 'diodes', to steer the positive half of the AC wave to to one terminal and the negative half of the wave to the other terminal. Now you have DC. The filter capacitor acts as a 'filler', to fill in the 'bumps' in the voltage wave, smoothing out the DC output. (I am seriously generalizing) Otherwise, the output would look like a very bumpy road if viewed on an oscilloscope. Since a transformer is used, it is 'on' the entire time the unit is plugged into the wall outlet. Also, a transformer used to get 3 Amps of current is quite large and heavy. Basically, linear type supplies are hideously wasteful and overly bulky for what they put out.

More modern power supplies are 'switch mode'. This is a relatively complex circuit, whose explanation is well beyond anything practical for this post... or for most readers to enjoy. Switch mode supplies that can supply 3 Amps or more current are small comparatively and are extremely efficient. One does not really have to know how they work to use them. Most all switch mode supplies come ready to use. Plug in line voltage to the input and plug the device to be powered to the output. I use 3 Amp switch mode regulators in my RC planes. If such a regulator was of the linear type, it would be so wasteful it would not be worth it. If it were a transformer based linear supply... the plane would be to large and heavy to fly.

If a person plans to use a switch mode computer power supply to power computer fans or other hardware, it can be done. It is not extremely dangerous to modify them. There are no high value or capacity capacitors in them. As long as the unit is unplugged when working on it... there is no real shock hazard. To be sure the capacitors in the circuit are discharged enough to eliminate 'all' shock hazards... simply let the unit sit unplugged for an hour and you are good to go. The most that would happen (if any charge remains), is that you may short a capacitor to ground with a wire, tool or the soldering iron. The most you will get as a result... is a bit of a spark. Nothing serious like what was suggested earlier in this thread. But... what must be known is that some modifications 'would' need to be done to make it work. A computer power supply is designed to detect if it is connected to a load on the 5 volt line. A load is any electrical device that draws current. In the case of the computer... it is the computer's motherboard. If the circuit detects a load on the 5 volt line, it will allow the entire power supply to power up. (Some power supplies may differ) To remedy this, a simple fix it to solder a 6 volt automotive light bulb to the ground and 5 volt output wire. This will load the power supply's 5 volt line and will allow the power supply to power up every time the switch is on. Typically, a computer power supply is good for as much as 20 Amps of current. Different voltage outputs will have different current capabilities. These are listed on the computer power supply's case. So yes... a computer power supply can be invaluable to hobbyist use and can be done quite safely, even for individuals with minimal electronics knowledge or experience. I use my old computer power supplies as a bench top supply for many projects, including a regulated supply for charging Lithium Polymer batteries as well as other types of batteries. You would be hard pressed to find a small, light weight, high current power supply that is cheaper. Such power supplies are only considered scary, if a person knows little to nothing about them. In such a situation, it is always best to follow the general rule. If you don't know something... ask. Then you will know.

When it comes to going the simple route and using wall-wart type linear power supplies, expect higher energy usage for what you get out of it. If you are concerned with power consumption... they are not the best route. To get 3 Amps from one... it will be quite large and produce a good amount of heat comparatively. Also, they take up a good deal of space on the wall outlet. Not all power supplies such as this, have the same pin-out on the output cable. The center may be positive, or it may be negative. Depends on who made it. No matter what power supply is used, it is always a good idea for a person working with electrical circuits, to purchase at least a cheap DMM, (Digital Multi-Meter). Such a meter will have the basics one needs to read voltage, current, resistance and other features... depending on the complexity of the meter. Typically such meters can be purchased for less than $20 at Radio Shack or Sears. Typically, if the test leads of the DMM are placed across the output wires of the power supply, you will get a voltage reading that is either a positive reading, or a negative reading. If a '-' sign precedes the voltage reading... then you have the test leads hooked up backwards. This is a good thing, because it tells you that your polarity is wrong. For example, the positive test lead (red) is hooked up to the negative wire of the power supply. Now you know the polarity of the power supply wires. Switch the test leads around and read again. Make sure there is no negative sign preceding the reading. Then, simply mark the positive wire with tape and draw a plus sign on the tape. Now there is no mistaking which wire is positive and which is negative. Not all devices will have a standard color code, so don't 'ever' depend on color code to determine what a wire is carrying. Always test it with your meter. Don't ever assume that a wire has a specific voltage on it. Read it with the meter and be sure. Once you have a meter... you will find uses for it everywhere. Checking outlets to see if they are 'on'. Checking your car battery voltage. Checking all kinds of things that use power. After all, our whole world runs on it. It doesn't hurt to learn a little something about it and purchase at least a cheap meter to help you along the way. Especially if you plan to wire up high current devices for use in a grow cabinet/room, etc.

Mr. Ganja has it right. Don't shy away from working with something because you don't know anything about it. Everyone starts doing something for the first time. Nobody is born with the knowledge. So a person has to do some research. How much research is needed to properly construct a grow cabinet, then grow something interesting in it?
 
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