hanging the whole plant upside down....curing?

jaxl

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i trim while the plant is still in the dirt i grow 12/12 start to finish i just find it easier to have the plant on a base and spin it to trim instead of trying to hold it and trim, then hang the whole plant upside down in my area if you cut the buds off the main stem they dry over night to where the stem breaks, ive had 3 grows do this before i realized hanging the whole plant would slow the drying time.
 

SimonD

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by hanging the whole plant upside down i was more referring to cutting the stalk at the base, but either way

i believe one guy hit what i was saying, leaving everything intact it takes like 2x as long to dry, which if i understand the curing process correctly would give you a free 6-7 days curing in my situation (when i just hang individual buds they are dry in 3 days)

and according to reading material (which could or could not be crap) the slower the dry the better
Heh, clearly, it was not the guy who actually developed and outlined the methodology you quoted, a plagiarized version of which appeared earlier in the thread. I'm sorry for gloating; sometimes it's the little things... :)

To respond to your idea, you won't see 6-7 days of curing. Simply put, the moisture has to be distributed evenly throughout the flower and and it has to remain relatively stable for a given period. This can only happen in a controlled environment, as I said earlier in the thread, and it takes time. With a lot of experience, that time can be cut by overdrying the flower mass and allowing the stem to rehydrate the entire flower, but it's not an excersise for the faint of heart and I don't suggest it. Good luck.

Simon
 

Total Head

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i trim while the plant is still in the dirt i grow 12/12 start to finish i just find it easier to have the plant on a base and spin it to trim instead of trying to hold it and trim, then hang the whole plant upside down in my area if you cut the buds off the main stem they dry over night to where the stem breaks, ive had 3 grows do this before i realized hanging the whole plant would slow the drying time.
bingo. if an 1.5 inch wide bud is drying in less than 3 days that's no good. if you want quick dried, toss it in the oven. proper drying should be dragged out as long as possible without risking mold. about the hanging thing, i do it purely for convenience. i've also toyed with sticking the stems into those styrofoam balls and drying them upright like a bouquet. it has potential but was a pain in the ass when the stems shrunk, so i stick to hang drying.
 

cannakis

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How does this curing tutorial differ from every other curing tutorial published in every grow book during the last 30 years?
Haha i was talking about things like Flushing and Certain Drying & Curing Methods--there are many differing opinions on the Forums at times. That's why i was just covering the Fundamentals that Have Been Covered like you are saying.
 

GHOPZZ

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I am going on day 4 of drying upside down, temps have been cold in my area at night, i have a fan going back in forth and closet blaked out so no light can get in. Should i leave it for longer or go check it out and cut it down ? dont want to run in Mold issues
 

Someguy15

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Ok, point not a single person has made on this thread. Slow drying is desired because the removal of Chlorophyll requires moisture. The longer you can drag out the moisture (without molding) the more you help release the grassy flavor (Chlorophyll). This is why you would want to hang a plant whole, obviously in outdoor situations it's not very possible, however the branches could be cut large, to increase the drying time. Also many of the terpens and flavanoids are contanined on the trim leaves, so drying whole tends to bring out a touch more scent and flavor. Triming a plant dried whole is more work without a doubt, but do a side by side, you might find a little extra effort is worth the reward.
 

cannakis

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Ok, point not a single person has made on this thread. Slow drying is desired because the removal of Chlorophyll requires moisture. The longer you can drag out the moisture (without molding) the more you help release the grassy flavor (Chlorophyll). This is why you would want to hang a plant whole, obviously in outdoor situations it's not very possible, however the branches could be cut large, to increase the drying time. Also many of the terpens and flavanoids are contanined on the trim leaves, so drying whole tends to bring out a touch more scent and flavor. Triming a plant dried whole is more work without a doubt, but do a side by side, you might find a little extra effort is worth the reward.
Great Words of Truth. i Am going to have to try hanging it Untrimmed. i have it whole this time, but i trimmed it. Do you really think it makes a big difference? Is it more Trichs, or something else?
 

Someguy15

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Great Words of Truth. i Am going to have to try hanging it Untrimmed. i have it whole this time, but i trimmed it. Do you really think it makes a big difference? Is it more Trichs, or something else?
High is nearly (probably) identical. It's purely aroma and flavor imo.
 

GHOPZZ

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Will cold night temps cause mold? My plants are going on day 4 in complete darkness with fan going back forth constantly. Should I check on them? I thought it was 5-10 days minium in this situation so that's why I haven't checked on them. This is the first time I dried lie this before.
 

dankhoe417

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I found a simple cure for the cold night temps. I am hanging in an outdoor building and night temps are now dropping into low 30's so I found a small, personal fan-driven heater (9 bucks at wally-world) and put it on a digital timer to come on for 15 minutes every 1.5 hrs overnight. Keeps the small room no lower than 60 deg when it is really cold out.
 

SimonD

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plagiarism....@@
When one copies someone else's work and calls it his own, that is plagiarism. Where do you think these developments come from? In this case, I worked on the methodology for almost 7 years before posting the tutorial on IC. I stated working with this while Overgrow was still around, to put it in a time frame. Don't get me wrong. Many forums have stickied the tutorial, some wrote their own versions, but they all credited the original. I don't have a problem with that at all.

FWIW, this is the original:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=156237

You may want to read the entire thread. It discusses virtually every curing option under the sun and will answer many (if not all) of the questions you've had, and perhaps give you more to think about.

Simon
 
Ok, point not a single person has made on this thread. Slow drying is desired because the removal of Chlorophyll requires moisture. The longer you can drag out the moisture (without molding) the more you help release the grassy flavor (Chlorophyll). This is why you would want to hang a plant whole, obviously in outdoor situations it's not very possible, however the branches could be cut large, to increase the drying time. Also many of the terpens and flavanoids are contanined on the trim leaves, so drying whole tends to bring out a touch more scent and flavor. Triming a plant dried whole is more work without a doubt, but do a side by side, you might find a little extra effort is worth the reward.
listen to this guy he knows what he is talking about. I have experimented with both methods several times. And yes, more smell and taste hanging the entire plant.

And to keep it easy to trim dont hang it upside down just right side up is fine to keep the leaves off the flowers. Or better yet like I have said before just stop watering the plant and leave it till leaves are wilting and its best is to put it in complete darkness at this time also if possible. Itll dry just nice and slow. And shell be sure to give you all she has.
 

GHOPZZ

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Should I add a humidifer to my closet to increase humidity? I'm so worried about mold, happened to a friend of mine ruined his whole AK-47 crop. Buds can be moist going into jars correct?
 

Someguy15

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Should I add a humidifer to my closet to increase humidity? I'm so worried about mold, happened to a friend of mine ruined his whole AK-47 crop. Buds can be moist going into jars correct?
A little moist, yes, soggy NO! If they are moist you should be checking them every 3-6 hours to ensure they aren't getting damper. See moisture likes to hide on the inside, so they might feel crisp, you throw them in the jars, and then a couple hours later they feel soggy. They need to come back outta the jar for a few hours to dry them more if this is the case. So the answer is yes, but it's not 'set and forget' because you will come back to moldy shit.
 

GHOPZZ

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Just peeked in, and of course everything is shrunk to
Shit, and really crispy. Am I ok to manicure and throw in jars?
 

cannakis

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listen to this guy he knows what he is talking about. I have experimented with both methods several times. And yes, more smell and taste hanging the entire plant.

And to keep it easy to trim dont hang it upside down just right side up is fine to keep the leaves off the flowers. Or better yet like I have said before just stop watering the plant and leave it till leaves are wilting and its best is to put it in complete darkness at this time also if possible. Itll dry just nice and slow. And shell be sure to give you all she has.
this is Very interesting!.? Does it actually work well?
 

cannakis

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Just peeked in, and of course everything is shrunk to
Shit, and really crispy. Am I ok to manicure and throw in jars?
Yes! Definitely. i Would throw it in Jars, and just Check it for Mold a couple times a day the first few days and then only check it twice a week.
 

glann

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listen to this guy he knows what he is talking about. I have experimented with both methods several times. And yes, more smell and taste hanging the entire plant.

And to keep it easy to trim dont hang it upside down just right side up is fine to keep the leaves off the flowers. Or better yet like I have said before just stop watering the plant and leave it till leaves are wilting and its best is to put it in complete darkness at this time also if possible. Itll dry just nice and slow. And shell be sure to give you all she has.
sense the plant doesnt eat chlorophyll and if im understanding it correctly, is why we dont have a smell immediately, would using just water until all the leaves fall off do anything positive at the end of the cycle?
 
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