Cig smokers

[smokinheavy79]

Yeah but the reduced burden of medical costs from people quitting would out weigh the lost tax revenue. Plus I wouldn't get inundated with nasty smoke all the time.

shut up... do you know why ky jelly says to NOT eat it?? cause people do retarded shit... if it ain't cigarettes it would be something else.

 

[sso]

People can do what they want, and even though smoking is now banned in all establishments in michigan I STILL get bombarded with smoke. I despise tobacco smoke and I get it all the fucking time. People standing directly outside of doors, or if i'm already outside they feel like they are free to do whatever they want. As if you have the right to stand next to me and my niece and smoke a cigarette and blow smoke my way just because we are outside. It is still disgusting and I shouldn't have to tolerate it.

If you want to do it in the privacy of your own home that is your right. I still think it's a disgusting habit. And if you have other people in the house you probably deserve to be stabbed in the face. I grew up with parents and relatives smoking all the time, and now I have chronic sinus problems. I don't know if it caused my sinus problems, but it sure made/makes life a living hell when tobacco smoke gets in there. It's a gross and pointless habit that everyone needs to give up.

thats the problem right there, who the fuck are you to tell me to quit smoking cigs?!

do you like it when the government fucks with our pot?

fucks sakes, learn from their bad example.

 

[guy incognito]

I don't even care if everyone quits smoking. I think it's a nasty habit and you should quit, just like if you said you drank bong water. It won't or bother me if you choose to drink bong water, but I still gotta say it's a nasty habit that you should stop, for your own benefit.

My problem with smokers is that I end up smoking and getting it all around me. You know how many times i've gone to an establishment and had people standing outside blowing weed smoke in my face? Never. With all the pot smokers out there I have never even once come across the situation of involuntarily having smoke forced into my lungs. I get it on an almost daily basis with tobacco. It's totally legal so why shouldn'y my coworker light up in my proximity?

 

[Grumpy']

You mean the medical costs paid by the smoker who also has insurance, pays their own premiums and deductible, plus whatever costs in treatments or prescriptions paid by said smoker?

 

[guy incognito]

thats the problem right there, who the fuck are you to tell me to quit smoking cigs?!

do you like it when the government fucks with our pot?

fucks sakes, learn from their bad example.

I never said we should make it illegal and throw people in prison for it. I just said everyone needs to quit. It is a bad habit. It is smelly and disgusting. I don't think that is even up for debate. You are free to do what you want, but my opinion is that you are making a bad decision with your life.

 

[guy incognito]

You mean the medical costs paid by the smoker who also has insurance, pays their own premiums and deductible, plus whatever costs in treatments or prescriptions paid by said smoker?

Yes because each person pays their entire medical expense out of their own pocket and they don't spread the risk and expenses over the entire pool of people. Oh wait, that is exactly what insurance does.

EDIT: I mean seriously. You get fucking cancer and rack up $2M in medical bills. Who pays that? Do you? No, the insurance company does (The smoker will personally be on the hook for a small fraction of that cost). Where do they get that money? Oh that's right it's the fucking money I pay into my insurance every week.

 

[Grumpy']

There actually are places that still leave it up to the companies to establish their own rules, and laws arent in place regarding smoking legal cigarettes. They are legal on all levels to buy use eat paint your house with (ok not seriously). There's probably more MJ smokers in this country than tobacco. The obvious issue between the 2 is on the federal level.

 

[sso]

I don't even care if everyone quits smoking. I think it's a nasty habit and you should quit, just like if you said you drank bong water. It won't or bother me if you choose to drink bong water, but I still gotta say it's a nasty habit that you should stop, for your own benefit.

My problem with smokers is that I end up smoking and getting it all around me. You know how many times i've gone to an establishment and had people standing outside blowing weed smoke in my face? Never. With all the pot smokers out there I have never even once come across the situation of involuntarily having smoke forced into my lungs. I get it on an almost daily basis with tobacco. It's totally legal so why shouldn'y my coworker light up in my proximity?

i used to smoke 3 packs a day.

made me cough something fierce.

then i smoked a pack a day for years and was mostly fine.

now i smoke 2-3 cigs with me weed everyday (mixed, usually never solo)

why?

cause it makes me feel good and i feel i have no lungproblems because of this.

i think its similar to brandy or cognac

drink too much of that and you grow a whole new nose, on top of your old one, though perhaps more resembling other things than noses.

but a bit of cognac is good for you. (if it makes ya feel good and is not hurting you, its good for you )

tobacco

is a strong drug, that needs to be respected, but it should definetly not be eradicated.

and basically, you are telling me that im an idiot that doesnt know any better.

and ive never ever blown smoke into someones face (well, 2 chicks, smokers and they liked it and smoked back (well actually the other started it lol)

and ive always taken care of being respectful to people that dont like it.

and im getting goddamned tired of having to suffer for idiots and assholes.

just because i share the same fucking liking.

i allready pay 10$ for 20grams of tobacco, because the fucking government thinks im an idiot that should be influenced into quitting

(same as us all, that smoke pot, we are considered fucking idiots that should be punished into quitting(the tobacco is only at the heavy price stage)

 

[Grumpy']

As far as costs that smokers and non smokers pay and how the insurance pays out, well, that's out of either persons hands unfortunately. I don't really think that 800 mg advil the doctor gave me costs $180 to make. Hell, if that was the case, that bottle of 30 advil I bought at Walmart is worth a fortune.
My only point is that it isnt a smokers fault that anyone pay the insurance costs that they have.
Most states that step in and declare it illegal in areas, also have it so smoking is t permitted with a certain distance of the entrance to an establishment. In my area, it's within 50 ft, but the sidewalk is only 8 feet away, where the USPS truck is sitting at idle, pumping way worse stuff my way.

 

[Grumpy']

Maybe I should just point out, I am one of those smokers that will outright search or ask where a smoking area is at, at like a theme park or the like. I do understand that not everyone does this. The problem is stereo typing. Not all people are the same, in this case, smokers or non smokers alike.

 

[Total Head]

I don't even care if everyone quits smoking. I think it's a nasty habit and you should quit, just like if you said you drank bong water. It won't or bother me if you choose to drink bong water, but I still gotta say it's a nasty habit that you should stop, for your own benefit.

My problem with smokers is that I end up smoking and getting it all around me. You know how many times i've gone to an establishment and had people standing outside blowing weed smoke in my face? Never. With all the pot smokers out there I have never even once come across the situation of involuntarily having smoke forced into my lungs. I get it on an almost daily basis with tobacco. It's totally legal so why shouldn'y my coworker light up in my proximity?

as much as i want to tell you to stfu i see where you're coming from. my issue with your thinking though is that it ends up trickling down to places where it shouldn't, like cigar/hooka bars and other places where people would like to go specifically to enjoy tobacco. there is literally not a single place i can smoke indoors, whether or not non-smokers are present, and i think that's bullshit.

my guess is that a person like yourself would never go to a cigar bar. yet the cigar bar is now smoke free. why? because of the "health of the employees". seriously? correct me if i'm wrong, but a person who is 18 years of age and of sound mind makes a DECISION to apply for that job, knowing full well what it involves. why don't we just outlaw restaurant kitchens? those cooks get exposed to raw meat and raw meat carries salmonella. someone needs to protect those guys

also in my state a pack of marlboro is 8 bucks, almost 6 of those dollars is tax. do you know how much of that tax money my state puts toward non smoking programs? TEN FUCKING PERCENT. that, my friends, is bullshit.

i just feel like all this anti-smoking hoopla is more geared toward making financial and political rape acceptable and has very little to do with personal health.

i can't buy a lottery ticket with plastic but i can use that credit card to buy a carton of ciggs for 80 bucks that i can't smoke anywhere. something isn't right here.

 

[tip top toker]

Or just stop smoking. You don't get high, you smell disgusting, the smoke is offensive, the after odor is offensive, stains your teeth, stains EVERYTHING, it's just an all around nasty habit.

I just don't understand tobacco smokers.

Why is tobacco so different from cannabis? I can tell you that for non smokers, cannabis smoke is just as "rancid" to them as tobacco smoke is to you. Maybe you're on the wrong forum

I have had weed smoke blown over me at clubs, outside pubs, in parks, on the street, countless times, and i'm in the UK were we don't even have any true medical system.

 

[sso]

yes, many people dont like the smell of cannabis. (usually, its like this, if you like the smell, you are a smoker or would become one for sure)

 

[april]

I've been told my man many that i'm a very courteous smoker, i never smoke around children or non smokers, unlee the non smokers don't mind. I 'm happy they banned smoking in public area, so many times i went to bars and had to leave because i either got burnt by a sloppy drunk or just couln't take all the smoke, and the next morning if u smell ur clothes, omg such a horrible smell, i don't smoke in my car if a non smoker is in the vehicle, but i draw the line when a guest in my home who is smoking my weed at no costs asks me to step outside to smoke a cig, ( her reasoning was she did not want her hair to smell lmfao) ya i giggled as i light that fag up lmfao
Sorry but i still can't believe that i see pregnant women smoking, blows my mind

 

[smokinheavy79]

I've been told my man many that i'm a very courteous smoker, i never smoke around children or non smokers, unlee the non smokers don't mind. I 'm happy they banned smoking in public area, so many times i went to bars and had to leave because i either got burnt by a sloppy drunk or just couln't take all the smoke, and the next morning if u smell ur clothes, omg such a horrible smell, i don't smoke in my car if a non smoker is in the vehicle, but i draw the line when a guest in my home who is smoking my weed at no costs asks me to step outside to smoke a cig, ( her reasoning was she did not want her hair to smell lmfao) ya i giggled as i light that fag up lmfao
Sorry but i still can't believe that i see pregnant women smoking, blows my mind

its not that bad for ya...they have a lot of folic acid

 

[lostNug]

I used to roll my own smokes back in the day. I loved pulling up next cops and holding it like a joint just to piss them off.

Haven't done it for a while, but definetly gonna look into it. I think I still got my cig packer somewhere too.

 

[april]

its not that bad for ya...they have a lot of folic acid

After seeing what happened to her daughter when she was born (her poor lungs were full of mucus and nasty shit) I beg to differ, damn i would go as far as charging a women for endangering her childs health.

 

[tip top toker]

In the UK doctors are trying to force the government to pass legislation banning smoking in cars outright under the idea that it is 20x more harmful to people in the car than being in a smokey bar. they wish to make it illegal even if driving alone.

I am a courteous smoker as well, i won't even smoke within 100 meters of work, jut because who want to be sitting eating lunch and have cig fumes blow through the door. But that is how i work, to quote a famous line, fuck you i won't do what you tell me. Largely because if you have to tell me to do something, chances are it's an unreasonable request as my daily life is based on manners and helping people. I won't even chuck my but in the gutter out of respect for the guy that goes around every day cleaning the streets for us to take pride in.

 

[jonblaze420]

guy incognito is a fart smeller

 

[Total Head]

After seeing what happened to her daughter when she was born (her poor lungs were full of mucus and nasty shit) I beg to differ, damn i would go as far as charging a women for endangering her childs health.

i'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened yet, although i'm glad because i don't agree with the gov telling people what to do with their bodies, even if they are stupid selfish whores. it's a tough one and i don't like it but i'm big on personal freedom and responsibility. if someone is on free care that i pay for, i'd shed fewer tears for their personal liberties, but i still wouldn't cheer a law like that. i think it would be a lot more effective to shame them publicly with a video of their pregnant ass smoking on facebook. ironically, THAT could possibly get one in trouble.

In the UK doctors are trying to force the government to pass legislation banning smoking in cars outright under the idea that it is 20x more harmful to people in the car than being in a smokey bar. they wish to make it illegal even if driving alone.

I am a courteous smoker as well, i won't even smoke within 100 meters of work, jut because who want to be sitting eating lunch and have cig fumes blow through the door. But that is how i work, to quote a famous line, fuck you i won't do what you tell me. Largely because if you have to tell me to do something, chances are it's an unreasonable request as my daily life is based on manners and helping people. I won't even chuck my but in the gutter out of respect for the guy that goes around every day cleaning the streets for us to take pride in.

my state has already outlawed smoking in the car if there are minors in it. while i think that's a step too far, you certainly won't see me in any picket line over it. i think there's only so courteous a smoker can technically be when he's restricted no matter where he goes. sure i can go off in a corner, blow my smoke in a certain direction, discard my butt in the proper receptacle, but i can't control the wind. i can't control the fact that you crossed my path at that exact moment. i can't control the fact that since smoking is outlawed, there is NOPLACE for anyone to throw the butt, so they actually litter worse than before.

if smoking is to remain legal, there should be confined designated smoking areas, period. this shit is set up like a caste system. "okay, all the untouchables go huddle under joe's truck and wait for permission to be allowed back inside. oh yeah, and thanks for the billions in tax revenue. and no, we will not use those taxes to help you quit."