First plants, few pics and questions relating (:

Frawsti

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Hi, i just started this adventure a few months ago. Initially i had started several plants, but they ended up being too much of a hassle and now im down to three. They are all from the same mother plant, but for some reason they are growing at different rates. The one pictured is only 13inches tall, yet the other two are about 3 and a half feet tall each. The short one is producing way, way more bud than the other two combined lol. What would cause the difference in size? They all have the same amount of dirt, water, and on the same VHO lights.

Im just looking for suggestions for my next batch, im assuming the short one will produce better quality bud? If so, what can i do to reproduce that effect?

My other question is just a small one, after i've cured my bud, how long will the stem last (in a jar) until it's not able to be re-planted?

Thanks so much! and this is my first post here[=

EDIT: Added second pic
 

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Frawsti

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Thanks! lol and i was hoping someone here could tell me, the conditions all seem the same to me. I don't know anything about plant genealogy, though.
 

sonar

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I'm not much of a pruner. I would try getting that light as close to the top of the plants as possible. Like 2-3". Are they T5's? If you are going to use flouros the whole way through I would have done some LST or something to keep the canopy even so you can expose as much of the plant to the light as possible.
 

Frawsti

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I'm not much of a pruner. I would try getting that light as close to the top of the plants as possible. Like 2-3". Are they T5's? If you are going to use flouros the whole way through I would have done some LST or something to keep the canopy even so you can expose as much of the plant to the light as possible.
I'm not familure with what T5s are, lol I actually never knew of this site or done any reasearch until recently. The lights are about two inches from the top though. My buddy who grows has just been helping me out with what to do. Should I be switching lighting? And ill post pics of the other two when I get home, they are completely different. Is it too late to try LST methods?
 

gobskiii

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alot of things can cause plants to look different even though they are the same...esp. if you started them all from seed. like if one of them is at the edge of the light source, or directly under the light source, or even just vecause it was destined to be a runt. i have found that plants grown directly under the light source normally stay smaller, but produce amazingly...where as the ones closer the the edges grow a bit more, but normally produce the same. only the one directly underneath will have rock hard nuggs, and calaxes tend to stack, as apposed to grow normally.
 

Frawsti

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Oh weird, even on full spectrum lights?

And does anyone know how long I can keep a clipping before its not able to regrow?
 

gobskiii

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yes even using full spectrum lighting. every light has a footprint, and an optimal distance...as the plants get further away from the light the intensity decreases. so the best ( normally) plants you will have are going to be the ones directly under the light...which is why alot of people rotate their plants, and move the row directly under the light to the outside, and outside ones directly under the light...i do this as well everyday.
 

gobskiii

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as for the clones, i have always cut dipped and planted. i dont see why you would want to cut a plant and then keep the clone for later...but hey there must be a reason.
 

Frawsti

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I have to wait until I get out of this house to start my next batch, I was just hoping to have something to save or grow off of. :c
 

gobskiii

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i would google that question, i saw it on the forums a while back, but i cant remember how they stored it, or anything...but it has been done if that helps.
 

Frawsti

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i would google that question, i saw it on the forums a while back, but i cant remember how they stored it, or anything...but it has been done if that helps.
Ah lame, it looks like there's no real long term solutions avaliable to me. Its strange though, that not only is that plant way shorter, but its darker and has red it in. The other two are light green with a ton of white hairs. Ill be back in a few hours with pics, they grow almost an inch a day.
 

Frawsti

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Oh! And another thing is that I was told the crystals on the leaves (pictured) are a bad sign, because your buds don't get as much thc. He said its caused by high humidity, but I have a dehumidifier running in the room. The rooms only 10'x12', should I put another dehumidifier in there?
 

Frawsti

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I added a pic of one of the other two plants to the first post of this topic. It's huge, but not producing many buds :/

How much do you think these will yeild? My buddy said i should expect around a oz per, but im a week into the flowering process and it's not looking like thatll happen.
 

sonar

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I would bend that plant in the 2nd pic over so as much of the stem is horizontal as possible. That way you can have more of the plant closer to the light. I don't think it's too late. Look into Low Stress Training (LST).

T5, T8, T12, etc. is based on the diameter of the bulb in units of 1/8 of an inch. T5 would be 5/8" in diameter. T8 would be 1".
 

Frawsti

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I would bend that plant in the 2nd pic over so as much of the stem is horizontal as possible. That way you can have more of the plant closer to the light. I don't think it's too late. Look into Low Stress Training (LST).

T5, T8, T12, etc. is based on the diameter of the bulb in units of 1/8 of an inch. T5 would be 5/8" in diameter. T8 would be 1".
They are T12, ecolux 40w full spectrum. And ill look into lst, thx.
 

Frawsti

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This is my last post in this thread if i get no more responses, I feel like im being obnoxious bumping it so much haha. I'm just excited.

Everything's been answered to me, except as to how much it should yield, and if i should add another dehumidifier. Also, I've tied the top of the second plant down in an attempt for a late LST, but any other suggestions with that plant? I should also mention these plants are 2 months old, with 1 week and a half flowering.
 

sonar

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I've noticed ppl here aren't big on throwing out yields. Especially this early into flowering. It's really a hard thing to judge so ppl are reluctant.

Keep the thread going man. I'll be following along. Any pics of the LST? I think it will help you out significantly in the end.

I don't think the trichomes on the leaves are a bad sign. If anything it's a good sign that your strain is a high resin producer.

Personally, I like flouros for starting seedlings and vegging plants for a few weeks, but I'd suggest upgrading for your next grow. Either with a HPS or even CFL's if money is an issue. I'd actually recommend putting some CFL's in there now. Flouros aren't really known for producing huge amounts of bud. Also, for next time I'd suggest filling whatever container you are using with soil all the way to the top.
 
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