4 Weeks left, plants need a boost. What to use?

TrichomeTrent

Active Member
You're pretty sure it's not happening. Sounds like you know what you're talking about.

Guess the extra growth I had after I actually did some testing was just a fluke.
Being condescending isn't going to help your argument. Any 1st year botanist will tell you your theory is just not correct. H2O2 KILLS mycorrhizae, which are very clearly present in natural soil, therefore the H2O2 is NOT reaching the soil since they continue to thrive. If you want supplemental oxygen over mycorrhizae that's entirely your choice. To any seasoned soil grower this just says you didn't have your friendlies in proper shape to begin with or this would in fact slow growth. This is because increased oxygen intake does NOT compensate for a lack of nutrients, but if the friendlies and nutrients are already out of wack then of course the plants would benefit from a simpler system such pumping nutrients and oxygen in and not worrying about the myco's.

PS. I said i was 'pretty sure' to prevent exactly this. I was 100% sure, i just didn't want to say you were wrong outright because to me that seems rude.
 

Buggins

Active Member
I will add however, that I do use H202 sometimes while my plants are in the seedling stage, and they haven't developed much of a root mass. They are really susceptible to overwatering at this point, and if I get carried away and my soil end up staying too wet, I'll give them a little shot of h202 to help get some oxygen to the roots. This usually perks them up in a few hours if they were looking water logged and droopy.

They get transplanted into a nice true living organic soil soon after, so even if I do 'carpet bomb' the shit out of the beneficials in the soil, as soon as I transplant into their final pots the biologicals get replaced. From this point forward I don't use H202.

I do appreciate all the opinions on H202, just didn't want people you folks to think I was completely disregarding it. Alway happy to hear differing opinions as long as they are backed by sound logic and science.
 

TrichomeTrent

Active Member
I will add however, that I do use H202 sometimes while my plants are in the seedling stage, and they haven't developed much of a root mass. They are really susceptible to overwatering at this point, and if I get carried away and my soil end up staying too wet, I'll give them a little shot of h202 to help get some oxygen to the roots. This usually perks them up in a few hours if they were looking water logged and droopy.

They get transplanted into a nice true living organic soil soon after, so even if I do 'carpet bomb' the shit out of the beneficials in the soil, as soon as I transplant into their final pots the biologicals get replaced. From this point forward I don't use H202.

I do appreciate all the opinions on H202, just didn't want people you folks to think I was completely disregarding it. Alway happy to hear differing opinions as long as they are backed by sound logic and science.
:) That's all i'm saying too hehe. There's a time and place for everything. I can't even remember the last time watered clones without using a mild H2O2 solution, but i would never want to be the cause of genocide to my poor little mycos :)
 

buddha webb

New Member
theres a place and time for most things....I must stress that when you live in 80/90% humidity,youd be lost without it,stem/bud rot,helps a lot.....but as you said cloning has a place for mild H2020......anyways,,,,lets all learn and grow together!.......B.
 

TrichomeTrent

Active Member
theres a place and time for most things....I must stress that when you live in 80/90% humidity,youd be lost without it,stem/bud rot,helps a lot.....but as you said cloning has a place for mild H2020......anyways,,,,lets all learn and grow together!.......B.
Agreed <3
Also i would like to add YIKES :D Thats some HIGH humidity hehe.
 

OSG

Member
Buggins.... Being this far into it, don't topdress. Instead, brew yourself a nice Guano Tea, using 1/2 oz of High N Bat Guano and 1/2 oz of High P Guano, placed into 3 gallons of unchlorinated water, along with 1 tsp of Unsulphured Molassed, bubble for 24 hours, turn off the air pump, and check the pH of the final product. If the pH is in range of 5.8 to 6.5 don't adjust it, if it's not, adjust as necessary to hit that range. Don't topdress the leftover crude, instead put it in a compost pile (this will eliminate the possibility of it affecting the pH over the next few weeks)
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If your plants don't green back up within 48 hours, repeat the tea brewing, but leave out the High P Bat Guano this time.
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By making feeding teas, you'll get faster results, which is what you need in this case. Topdressing wouldn't be the answer, since you'd end up waiting for things to work their way down into the root zone, and you don't have time to wait (or waste) in this case.
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Hope that helps....
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Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
I'm not trying to get into this... whatever this is, but a couple things;

If your medium has proper aeration, you don't need to add any extra oxygen to the root zone.
h2o2 is bad for microlife, and the only place for it in an organic grow is for cleanup, fin.
 
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