Flushing....Whats your technique?

[Sunbiz1]

If you ever take some of their Grow Big or Tiger Bloom ferts and spill a little and let it evaporate, there is a ton of salt left behind. There's no way that all of shit is getting rinsed out of a container by normal waterings, it will accumulate. I can understand their recommendation to flush periodically...

Miracle grow potting soil does the same, you can see the salt residuals left on top after watering....not a good thing imho.

 

[CheapJoe]

Your comments piqued my curiosity, so I took a quick look at your other posts, including the one where you advocate the use of aluminum foil as a reflective material based on a citation in Wikipedia. Fortunately, cultivation is an applied pursuit, not theoretical. As such, one's competence is easily assessed by a representation of his work. Can you please post a few pics of the plants you have grown and harvested (including something for scale)?

Simon

Dear Simon,

Science has been and will always be based on theories before proven factual. Theories are the cognitive thought based on hefty amounts of analysis and record keeping to thoroughly and rigorously test and defunct true and false ideas, which often lead to new discoveries and new equations that could change the entire way of looking at and perceiving things.
So yeah no sht; but without rigorous testing and analysis how can anyone here advocate anything. What based on Manufactures? Salesmen will say whatever to get what they want, just look at the presidency.

There's a lot too it; people can get the basics down; but it takes a lifetime to master a field with so much unknown ground to cover only now has society allowed us to make some breakthroughs.

Who knows if you'll ever see anything from me, thanks anyway though. Perhaps some melons or my berries.

 

[CheapJoe]

well here is a bone:

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[watchhowIdoit]

If no one can tell a difference in flushing or not flushing then your wasting money on nutes at the end imo. I flush for 3 days though. 1st day with flushing agent 2 days ro water. Un flushed seems to burn not as smooth and hurts my throat after smoking large quantitys. Im not saying flushing doesnt decrease yield but thats why i only do it for 3days. I swear all the commercial shit I get from CALI from you PROFESSIONALS isn't flushed. It always hurts my throat and never burns smooth. What makes you a professional? lol how do I become one? Farmers dont flush because they cant. They do rinse though and we cant. Stuff you grow and eat is different than stuff you grow and smoke. If you want to pump out mad commercial weight by all means dont flush and let your shit get over ripe (a whole different argument) But imo if you want connoisseur quality you flush.

I am a farmer, have been all my life. We wouldnt flush if we could. We want to get the most out of our crops as possible. And the only thing I 'rinse' around the farm are my tractors. And yes, my tractors are very sexy......

 

[SirLancelot]

Dear Simon,

Science has been and will always be based on theories before proven factual. Theories are the cognitive thought based on hefty amounts of analysis and record keeping to thoroughly and rigorously test and defunct true and false ideas, which often lead to new discoveries and new equations that could change the entire way of looking at and perceiving things.
So yeah no sht; but without rigorous testing and analysis how can anyone here advocate anything. What based on Manufactures? Salesmen will say whatever to get what they want, just look at the presidency.

There's a lot too it; people can get the basics down; but it takes a lifetime to master a field with so much unknown ground to cover only now has society allowed us to make some breakthroughs.

Who knows if you'll ever see anything from me, thanks anyway though. Perhaps some melons or my berries.

You've avoided my question? I am very curious to hear your knowledge.

Infact you've pretty much avoided all positive inputs for this thread. Whats your point of being here to show you know wht the definition of science is? I was hoping you had some insight on flushing, you act like you do. no one ever claimed to be master nor did anyone ever say they have got it completely figured out. But us who have taken the time to control a few variables possible and try to expirement are way ahead of you my friend. We are doing something about it not just talking about it.

 

[Illegal Smile]

I keep asking this question and it is never answered. I think the lack of an answer ought to tell you all you need to know about flushing. The question:

"Where is the "stuff" that flushing supposedly removes flushed TO?"

No-one can answer because roots cannot leech anything back into water (or soil). The only way flushing can remove anything is if the plant is starved for weeks so that the nutes are metabolized out. That's about as smart as using leeches to suck the blood from a patient.

 

[SimonD]

Dear Simon,

Science has been and will always be based on theories before proven factual. Theories are the cognitive thought based on hefty amounts of analysis and record keeping to thoroughly and rigorously test and defunct true and false ideas, which often lead to new discoveries and new equations that could change the entire way of looking at and perceiving things.
So yeah no sht; but without rigorous testing and analysis how can anyone here advocate anything. What based on Manufactures? Salesmen will say whatever to get what they want, just look at the presidency.

There's a lot too it; people can get the basics down; but it takes a lifetime to master a field with so much unknown ground to cover only now has society allowed us to make some breakthroughs.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a theory and a hypothesis, and the nature of the scientific process as a whole. Ironic to say the least.

Who knows if you'll ever see anything from me, thanks anyway though. Perhaps some melons or my berries.

Right, no plants.

well here is a bone:

I'm sitting here wondering how anyone could post something like this, aimed at folks who actually grow weed, and think that he has the bull by the balls. Boggles the mind.

I come to this forum to help folks with curing, so I usually stay away from threads like these. Now I find myself talking to someone who's, in essence, full of crap. I hope you understand if this is the last you hear from me.

Simon

 

[wbd]

Miracle grow potting soil does the same, you can see the salt residuals left on top after watering....not a good thing imho.

Definitely not, left unchecked it will cause all sorts of problems. Flushing every 30 days (and I still use an organic fert during these flushes, to keep the soil rich) seems to keep any trouble at bay.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Definitely not, left unchecked it will cause all sorts of problems. Flushing every 30 days (and I still use an organic fert during these flushes, to keep the soil rich) seems to keep any trouble at bay.

I should be fine with my organic soil, worm castings, and mushroom compost. I see no reason why I would want to drown my poor microbes.

 

[KushDog]

From what i understand is when the plant is in it final stages, it is makeing all the good stuff, and you dont want to give it ferts when it is in the final stages. You can all smoke your nasty unflushed pot, whille i smok my nice smotth organic cannabis. more power too the uninformed LOL smh

 

[Harrekin]

How exactly do organic and chemical nutrients differ once absorbed by the roots? Is organic Nitrogen not Nitrogen or something? Is organic phosphorous not phosphorous?

Organic is great if youre "into" that sort of thing, but it's way overhyped. I find it an inexact, slow delivery system for nutes, some people like it more, but the plant ultimately uptakes and utilises the same elements in the same way regardless of whether it came from shit or from a rock.

 

[anotherdaymusic]

I like to give my plant water until i chop it... it really doesnt make sense to me or mother nature to starve it for a week or more before harvest, it slows down growth and the buds wont keep growing... seems like a horrible idea...

 

[Harrekin]

With all Iv said I'll point out that even tho I said I feed to harvest, you can reduce the amount of feed provided purely cos the plant doesn't use as much at the end. Still no need to flush tho

 

[RawBudzski]

Anytime I have donated to a clinic or to an older hippie they always Ask & make sure I flushed.. So even if someone could change my mind in flushings effectiveness.. People here in cali who are Serious about bud normally poo-poo bud that has not been flushed. Whether you like how it smokes or not, that's great. But whether it is able to satisfy others who medicate is also a bid deal to me.

So I flush. If flushing is pointless & I am saving a little nutes.. oh well I can @ least give people the answer they wanna hear when medicating w/ me.

 

[KushDog]

ok, so you should feed full streath all the way to harvest for best tasteing/ burning weed.

DO not flush at all, keep feeding till the end. make sure all your leave stay dark green . insted just give the plants some ferts in stead. it won't hurt be cause plants don't aborb ferts...

Why do people give bad advise???? what ever, i do it my way , and you can do it the wrong way

 

[Harrekin]

ok, so you should feed full streath all the way to harvest for best tasteing/ burning weed.

DO not flush at all, keep feeding till the end. make sure all your leave stay dark green . insted just give the plants some ferts in stead. it won't hurt be cause plants don't aborb ferts...

Why do people give bad advise???? what ever, i do it my way , and you can do it the wrong way

You're way oversimplifying what I said there man. I said reduce ferts at the end because the plant uses less ferts at the end than it does at peak flower.

And flushing is stupid, just don't overfeed (burn foliage) and dry/cure properly. It'll end up the exact same product.
Let me hit you with a simple one, try quick drying some of your "flushed" weed and smoke it. It'll be exactly the same as the unflushed, cos your smoothness and taste come from slow drying and curing.

 

[Harrekin]

Anytime I have donated to a clinic or to an older hippie they always Ask & make sure I flushed.. So even if someone could change my mind in flushings effectiveness.. People here in cali who are Serious about bud normally poo-poo bud that has not been flushed. Whether you like how it smokes or not, that's great. But whether it is able to satisfy others who medicate is also a bid deal to me.

So I flush. If flushing is pointless & I am saving a little nutes.. oh well I can @ least give people the answer they wanna hear when medicating w/ me.

You could just say it is, if they believe it and you've dried and cured properly it may aswell be flushed, cos its all in the dry and cure, not the mythical "handle pull".

 

[RawBudzski]

Why lie for a pointless reason. Do you believe feeding till the last day will make that bud more potent than had it been fed with water the last wk or two. Because once you begin feeding water, there are still nutes in the soil so that could be considered feeding less towards the end.. & the last wk or few days would be Mostly clean soil. It's not like when you are two weeks out and begin watering plain water, BAM the plant is starving and losing its ability to grow.. The plant finishes up what is in the soil then moves onto the fan leaves. I consider that flushing, & the plant still getting nutes but at a less amount. Perfection

& you CAN smell the diff in Hydro if one was to use the Full line of AN to the last day full stregnth It smells chemmy..which some mistake as being "potent".

 

[lordjin]

Anytime I have donated to a clinic or to an older hippie they always Ask & make sure I flushed.. So even if someone could change my mind in flushings effectiveness.. People here in cali who are Serious about bud normally poo-poo bud that has not been flushed. Whether you like how it smokes or not, that's great. But whether it is able to satisfy others who medicate is also a bid deal to me.

So I flush. If flushing is pointless & I am saving a little nutes.. oh well I can @ least give people the answer they wanna hear when medicating w/ me.

You could also take the opportunity to educate those you're medicating with that they're misguided.

I'd like to meet the patient or collective who will poo poo on this bud when I tell them it wasn't flushed.

What I'm doing is letting them drink on 650ppm of base and calmag for the last week or so. As they drink and lower the ppm, I'm not replenishing... simply letting my external auto top dilute it down as it drinks. It's down to 590ppm from Sat when I performed the final 30 minute flush and water change. The plants are loving this. The leaves are yellowing nicely, but they're not drying up and dying off. This is what you want to see. And if a patient or collective questions my method of not flushing, I'll simply educate them with my dankest of OG. My OG will change your mind and set you free.

 

[Harrekin]

Why lie for a pointless reason. Do you believe feeding till the last day will make that bud more potent than had it been fed with water the last wk or two. Because once you begin feeding water, there are still nutes in the soil so that could be considered feeding less towards the end.. & the last wk or few days would be Mostly clean soil. It's not like when you are two weeks out and begin watering plain water, BAM the plant is starving and losing its ability to grow.. The plant finishes up what is in the soil then moves onto the fan leaves. I consider that flushing, & the plant still getting nutes but at a less amount. Perfection

& you CAN smell the diff in Hydro if one was to use the Full line of AN to the last day full stregnth It smells chemmy..which some mistake as being "potent".

Because keeping your leaves green keeps photosynthesis at its highest possible level? Why lower the effectiveness of what your plant uses to make food? For what is a glorified "feel good factor"?