LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

noptical

noptical

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So I've been following this thread closely and have a few questions guys in here say that with an 8 bulb t5 they are making yields that are on comparrison with a 1k hps. I wanna know with a 16bulb t5 give say 6 week veg time and the normal 60 days of flower for my strain what type of yield would i be looking at with this setup im trying to make sure this settup is right for me to justify the money for the badboy instead of a 1k hps
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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organicbynature said:
These are what they look like:
View attachment 1935557

Also, the blue is not like a super actinic. If you look again, it's got the complete blue spectrum. Kind of like a super actinic and a 454 combined. I'm not saying that's preferable, but it's at least interesting.

What available (54w) red bulb has a better graph than this red bulb besides for the Red Sun (which either has an inaccurate graph itself or does not peak at 630 like they say)? I don't know, look's pretty red to me. Also, Philips is a good brand. It sounds like some of you are having trouble with your UVLs...
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My Red Suns are on their way by UPS tomorrow, from pics Ive seen I like their red. But damn that does look a nice even red, going strictly from the SPD the Red Sun shows the 630nm so...

If I had a 16 bulb or two 8 bulbs in flower I may sprinkle a few into the mix since they are pretty focused in the red end without much blue.

Ill give it to you, they'd be a good alternative to Red Suns if they go under. good call.
 
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falcon223

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These PAR meters don't show a Graff, but only light intensity. You can watch someone use it on youtub. It is in aquarium lights.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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noptical said:
So I've been following this thread closely and have a few questions guys in here say that with an 8 bulb t5 they are making yields that are on comparrison with a 1k hps. I wanna know with a 16bulb t5 give say 6 week veg time and the normal 60 days of flower for my strain what type of yield would i be looking at with this setup im trying to make sure this settup is right for me to justify the money for the badboy instead of a 1k hps
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I dont know your strain or your environment. So I can't really say. From my strains the yield is pretty much the same. Slightly more under the t5. Because they are denser under the t5. Much much better quality too. Right now I have 1 batch, half under a 1k and the other half under the t5. All at 4 weeks and the ones under the t5 are just a little bit bigger and way more frosty. Im using an 8 bulb too.
 
Redoctober

Redoctober

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So I finally put together my bulb arrangement for flower and veg and I wanted to run it by you guys. I like the look of the Flora Sun as a base bulb for flower, plus it has some nice UVB and UVA spikes. Otherwise it's fairly similar to the Aquamedic and supposed Fiji Purple graph. I do have a Fiji in there for good measure but I decided to try 2 Flora Suns instead of all 3 Fiji's. The Coral Wave is good for the actinic side but it has that nice far red spike for flower as well.
Here goes:

8 bulb flower arrangement

Blueprint: \Base/~\Red/~\Blue/~\Base/~\Red/~\Blue/~\Base/~\Red/

\Flora Sun/~\RedSun/~\CoralWave/~\Fiji/~\RedSun/~\CoralWave/~\FloraSun/~\RedSun/



4 bulb veg arrangement:

\Fiji/~\RedSun/~\UVLSuperActinic/~\AquamedicPlantGrow/
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Redoctober said:
So I finally put together my bulb arrangement for flower and veg and I wanted to run it by you guys. I like the look of the Flora Sun as a base bulb for flower, plus it has some nice UVB and UVA spikes. Otherwise it's fairly similar to the Aquamedic and supposed Fiji Purple graph. I do have a Fiji in there for good measure but I decided to try 2 Flora Suns instead of all 3 Fiji's. The Coral Wave is good for the actinic side but it has that nice far red spike for flower as well.
Here goes:

8 bulb flower arrangement

Blueprint: \Base/~\Red/~\Blue/~\Base/~\Red/~\Blue/~\Base/~\Red/

\Flora Sun/~\RedSun/~\CoralWave/~\Fiji/~\RedSun/~\CoralWave/~\FloraSun/~\RedSun/



4 bulb veg arrangement:

\Fiji/~\RedSun/~\UVLSuperActinic/~\AquamedicPlantGrow/
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Nice I have mine in a different order making it more symetrical to create an even spectrum blend.

Fiji / redsun / coral wave / redsun / fiji / coral wave / redsun / fiji.

Might swap the center fiji for a redsun. But then ill have 2 redsuns right next to each other and not sure if I want to do that.
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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Under a 4 bulb t5, 2 red suns, 2 generic Daylight.

The plant on the left is the T5. The one to the right was grown under 240 watt Blackstar (never again). Both plants 7 weeks.

T5 can def do the trick. We added the T5 to this plant at week 4.5 of bloom because the Blackstar wasn't doing shit. We will now be doing our first large grow using all T5 and will be mixing the spectrum up even a bit better adding in the Fuji Purps and another 3000k Uship bulb that is heavy orange and into the red.

IMG_7318.jpg
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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hyroot said:
I have been using my redsuns for 16 weeks now and they are still going strong. Never had any problems. Btw you have to run them by themselves to see how they truly appear in color. When they sit next to a different bulb they appear a different color or shade. For example. The fiji looks very purple. When placed next to a redsun it looks more blue. The redsun is the only one I have come across with that much red at that nm and with no other wasted spectrums. I wouldn't believe anything a vendor or salesman at a store says. They usually talk out their ass and don't know the first thing of how light really works. I have had plenty experience. With dumbass salesman at aquarium shops and hydro shops that give the worst advice. I almost think that it's on purpose. So you will come back and spend more money when their advice backfired
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Right, well... colors being off is one thing, but I've had two bulbs fail in a row now. I think their mfr quality is questionable at the moment, as the vendor told me that several people had their UVL Red Lifes fail from the same batch. Then they replaced that one with another one that is failing.
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Any of you tried the Plantmax or AgroMax 3000k bulbs or find a Spectral Graph for it? They are very cheap on eBay!
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I have 4 plantmax 3000k's before I opened my eyes to the PAR specific bulbs. They work fine for me, and are ok to add into the blend for flower if you have enough bulbs. Tomorrow I will have two 4 bulb t5's in my flower box to supplement my 400w hps cool tube. I only have one RedWave so I will put a 3000k opposite it, otherwise I have equal on either side... super blue, red sun, coral wave, then red wave/3000k... all facing either other with my babies sandwiched between.

no graph for the 3000k's, I was going based on a general SPD for GE 2700k cfl's, assuming they would be relatively similar... View attachment 1936589, that is a wide ass red streak (but heavy orange not red), still accurate???
 
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