aero vs dwc

[tree king]

Its just like most hydro grows. It takes more work.
You dont like playing in your grow room daily grow with soil
You dont mind working in your grow room every day grow hydro.

theres stuff you can do to solve that though. thats exactly why im getting a ph/tds doser and setting up an automatic topoff system. after that no more daily checkups

 

[hellraizer30]

That to me tree is seting yourself up for trouble, why everything breaks at some point so il swing by my grow daily
To check and adjust but leting a machine do it for me na il pass

 

[tree king]

That to me tree is seting yourself up for trouble, why everything breaks at some point so il swing by my grow daily
To check and adjust but leting a machine do it for me na il pass

tell you the truth il still be checking on everything every day or 2 unless im outta town but id rather not have to do the work myself to be totally honest with you lol. carrying buckets to the grow room to top off etc. id rather just have the devices do everything for me but i would check on things to make sure everythings working properly and there wouldnt be any daily work at all like beaver was talkin about.

 

[BeaverHuntr]

tell you the truth il still be checking on everything every day or 2 unless im outta town but id rather not have to do the work myself to be totally honest with you lol. carrying buckets to the grow room to top off etc. id rather just have the devices do everything for me but i would check on things to make sure everythings working properly and there wouldnt be any daily work at all like beaver was talkin about.

Thats my only gripe about DWC is that it is a lot of work especially if it's not recirculating. Other than it's kind of fool proof if you keep your water temps low.

 

[dbkick]

are you guys talking true aero or what I like to call aerospring (low pressure aero). True aero requires high pressure and very small water droplets.
I like to do a hybrid nft/dwc/aero combo where the roots are fully submerged and being sprayed with low pressure misters, I'd never attempt true aero. in the aeropsring theres a fail safe and that's the fact that the roots are actually still partially submersed so they won't die if a pump goes out. I'm currently ( as I type getting the things together for a low pressure aero system that drains totally and sprays in cycles ( of which I haven't determined yet). correction, aerospring , where the roots AREN'T fully submerged.

 

[dbkick]

Thats my only gripe about DWC is that it is a lot of work especially if it's not recirculating. Other than it's kind of fool proof if you keep your water temps low.

Yo get a cap ebb controller and res and tie you're buckets together, I do this with igloo coolers and a cap ebb controller, it drains the buckets and mixes back to the main res (55 gallon drum) every 2 hours. beats hell out of dealing with individual buckets but has drawbacks like only being able to run one strength of nutrients where you may have multiple strains that require different feeding.

 

[tree king]

are you guys talking true aero or what I like to call aerospring (low pressure aero). True aero requires high pressure and very small water droplets.
I like to do a hybrid nft/dwc/aero combo where the roots are fully submerged and being sprayed with low pressure misters, I'd never attempt true aero. in the aeropsring theres a fail safe and that's the fact that the roots are actually still partially submersed so they won't die if a pump goes out. I'm currently ( as I type getting the things together for a low pressure aero system that drains totally and sprays in cycles ( of which I haven't determined yet). correction, aerospring , where the roots AREN'T fully submerged.

dbkick in your personal terminology what would you consider the general hydro aeroflo 36 system below?
http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=1735
this is the type of system im getting so im curious. does a puddle stay inside the chamber if the power cuts off?

 

[dbkick]

Its just like most hydro grows. It takes more work.
You dont like playing in your grow room daily grow with soil
You dont mind working in your grow room every day grow hydro.

I got the ebb controller and the only work I do is a weekly res change, if you don't count the maintenance sprays of mighty wash. Hell the most time I spend in my room is when I'm blazing and admiring my work.

 

[dbkick]

that's a aero/nft hybrid, I built one (see it here..www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/346967-my-first-grow.html ). used it for one grow, killed shit(not due to the system, due to algae in my atomist that I didn't notice). I had problem with my roots clogging the drain. If you don't grow real big plants those are nice but if you grow big then don't plan on using every site.

 

[tree king]

that's a aero/nft hybrid, I built one (see it here..www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/346967-my-first-grow.html ). used it for one grow, killed shit(not due to the system, due to algae in my atomist that I didn't notice). I had problem with my roots clogging the drain. If you don't grow real big plants those are nice but if you grow big then don't plan on using every site.

im doing no veg time with 36 plants so i think il be all set. you never answered my questions though. does a puddle stay inside the chamber if the power cuts off? how would you describe the misters? is it a fine mist?

 

[dbkick]

about the puddle/power. I'm sure you could elevate the end with the drain and keep a little water in the tube in case a pump went out or power. power prob wouldn't be an issue because generally (here at least) power outages are far and few. you could get a battery power supply to run the pump for awhile if the power goes out. I think power outage isn't a issue that much but do think pump failure could be a problem.

 

[dbkick]

im doing no veg time so i think il be all set. you never answered my questions though. does a puddle stay inside the chamber if the power cuts off? how would you describe the misters? is it a fine mist?

The guy that taught me the fence post aeroflo ripoff just pokes holes in the pipe, the aeroflo misters insert thought the top of the rail I believe for easy replacement, I dunno what misters they use but I've found most all misters clog , so this dude just pokes holes in his tubing running in the rail.I ended up taking out misters (at least the ones I could get to) that lead to flooded tubes which lead me to cycle my pump.

 

[tree king]

about the puddle/power. I'm sure you could elevate the end with the drain and keep a little water in the tube in case a pump went out or power. power prob wouldn't be an issue because generally (here at least) power outages are far and few. you could get a battery power supply to run the pump for awhile if the power goes out. I think power outage isn't a issue that much but do think pump failure could be a problem.

are you sure all misters clog cause it boggles my mind to think that one company couldnt make 1 type of spray pump that doesnt get clogged. also i have an ez cloner that ive been using for years and never had a clog? its the same thing the way i see it

 

[dbkick]

if the system comes with a filter it should be fine, just keep the filter clean if is removable. I don't know what misters they use, probably something like the ez cloner, those don't get too small so they may not clog.

 

[dbkick]

but as I was saying , this system isn't true aeroponic due to its low pressure and you can't produce a small enough droplet to be considered true aero.

 

[tree king]

but as I was saying , this system isn't true aeroponic due to its low pressure and you can't produce a small enough droplet to be considered true aero.

and how much of a difference do you think that makes knowing its also nft? so if it can produce a small enough droplet than that would mean the roots get more steady oxygen?

 

[dbkick]

I wouldn't even attempt true aero myself, that system should work well for you. for the price you probably couldn't build one for much less but you could customize it to your own specs by building, vinyl fence post is cheap. on the other hand if you aren't into DIY then the price of that system isn't bad and I've heard nothing but good things from aeroflo users.

 

[BeaverHuntr]

Yo get a cap ebb controller and res and tie you're buckets together, I do this with igloo coolers and a cap ebb controller, it drains the buckets and mixes back to the main res (55 gallon drum) every 2 hours. beats hell out of dealing with individual buckets but has drawbacks like only being able to run one strength of nutrients where you may have multiple strains that require different feeding.

I have 5 igloo coolers. I will PM you for some advice.

 

[dbkick]

I have 5 igloo coolers. I will PM you for some advice.

Right on, I'll help if I can.

 

[BeaverHuntr]

are you sure all misters clog cause it boggles my mind to think that one company couldnt make 1 type of spray pump that doesnt get clogged. also i have an ez cloner that ive been using for years and never had a clog? its the same thing the way i see it

Thats the draw back to NFT misters do clog all of them doesnt matter what solution over time they will clog especially if you use a synthetic nute high in salts like GH.