Marijuana, Our sperm, and the Future of the world :)

Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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Alright...Strange title...But that's the topics (Not in a perverted way though)...

So,
In the past I had already thought about Marijuana, and genetics, and the future. But I will get to that in a second...



Today I thought about something.
They say that smoking weed lowers your sperm count...It can't just be RANDOMLY be selecting sperm to kill, there must just be some sperm inside of us that is BETTER at handling weed. And when you smoke weed, you "weed out" the intolerant, potential babies...

Think of it this way:
When you introduce "Raid" bug spray, into a Roach community, most of them die.
But some of the bugs may survive. And they will be able to reproduce...Because they are still ALIVE.
So the next generation of roaches, is now LESS effected by "Raid" bug spray. And maybe even ALL of them will eventually survive.

But that is happening in your nutsack. The THC is the "Raid", and the sperm are the roaches.




This was my thought from the past, about MJ, and genetics(Not sperm, or nutsack related):
If BOTH of your parents smoked weed, then you have been "Pre-exposed" to THC, through your genetics, and your fathers sperm.
But if only 2 out of your 4 grandparents smoked. Then your parents (Even though they passed down a heavy tolerance to you) may have MUCH lower tolerances than you.


So everyone is probably effected by weed a LITTLE bit differently than each other, based on our "Family History" in relation to Marijuana's "Family history".

And there may be people that have a "Stronger" connection, or "Better" receptors than others.


And what if one day there is an amazing mutation...The person can store excess THC instead of pissing it out...Or doesn't get high...Or is always high without weed...Or SOMETHING....
 
buddha webb

buddha webb

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So would a family with generations of smokers have better or worse tolerance..
My older brother smokes and he turns into a fuckin idiot,but he only smokes when he sees me.My friends whos parents smoke or smoked seemed to be more tolerant than friends without smoking around them in their natural habitat....or could it be a subconcious ,,well its just weed,mum n dad smoke so i can smoke and its cool!!
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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buddha webb said:
So would a family with generations of smokers have better or worse tolerance..
My older brother smokes and he turns into a fuckin idiot,but he only smokes when he sees me.My friends whos parents smoke or smoked seemed to be more tolerant than friends without smoking around them in their natural habitat....or could it be a subconcious ,,well its just weed,mum n dad smoke so i can smoke and its cool!!
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It would have to be tested.

Because 'Bigger" or "Stronger" receptors, COULD mean lower tolerance, but genetically having it in the receptors, could make a higher tolerance...
 
lime73

lime73

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Survival of the Fittest! :)

I'm sure there are many other different kind of chemicals that people induce, intentionally or not,( breathing/absorb through the skin ) that can lower sperm count, and will effect other areas of the body/mind as well.

If it did lower sperm count.... why are there so many children these days? Love children....but surely more people did allot more than just smoke the herb than we know of? I would say that the blamed falls on all the other chemicals ,not just the herb. I don't think lower sperm count is the issue...more, how the chemicals can change or alter our genes within the sperm, that makes our children more screwed in the head!

We just adapt like the cockroaches anyways lol ...peace
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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lime73 said:
Survival of the Fittest! :)

I'm sure there are many other different kind of chemicals that people induce, intentionally or not,( breathing/absorb through the skin ) that can lower sperm count, and will effect other areas of the body/mind as well.

If it did lower sperm count.... why are there so many children these days? Love children....but surely more people did allot more than just smoke the herb than we know of? I would say that the blamed falls on all the other chemicals ,not just the herb. I don't think lower sperm count is the issue...more, how the chemicals can change or alter our genes within the sperm, to make our children more screwed in the head!

We just adapt like the cockroaches anyways lol ...peace
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Screwed in the head?????????


Connection to an ancient plant, and understanding from it, is NOT "Screwed up".
 
lime73

lime73

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Finshaggy said:
Screwed in the head?????????


Connection to an ancient plant, and understanding from it, is NOT "Screwed up".
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yah we lost our way, morals , beliefs, living in tune with mother nature.

which is Not from smoking the herb....all the Other chemicals in that are in the atmosphere, that we have induced/absorbed, biggest factor is medicine, chemicals.
 
XxHazexX

XxHazexX

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i thought you were going somewhere completly differnt with this but i see what your saying tho kause the evidence is evident kause i kno every on here that smokes has thoose friend that smoke just as much but get too high way to quick.
but when i first started reading you getting at marijuana being natural way to weed out the shitty sperm
 
XxHazexX

XxHazexX

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i thought you were going somewhere completly with this but i see what your saying tho kause the evidence is evident kause i kno every on here that smokes has thoose friend that smoke just as much but get too high way to quick.
but when i first started reading you getting at marijuana being natural way to weed out the shitty sperm
 
rifk

rifk

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Ok, I have to admit I thought twice before clicking this thread, because of its title... lmao

Well, both my parents smoke, and I don't think my tolerance is that much higher... And I smoke more than they do! And also probably more than they used to before I was born lol, so I guess it doesn't make that much difference at all... Maybe after a few generations
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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rifk said:
Ok, I have to admit I thought twice before clicking this thread, because of its title... lmao

Well, both my parents smoke, and I don't think my tolerance is that much higher... And I smoke more than they do! And also probably more than they used to before I was born lol, so I guess it doesn't make that much difference at all... Maybe after a few generations
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Both of my parents had 1 stoner parent.
I have 2, and my tolerance is MUCH higher than wither of them, and I feel that my connection to Shiva is better as well.


I feel like I got passed some good MJ genes :D
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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XxHazexX said:
i thought you were going somewhere completly with this but i see what your saying tho kause the evidence is evident kause i kno every on here that smokes has thoose friend that smoke just as much but get too high way to quick.
but when i first started reading you getting at marijuana being natural way to weed out the shitty sperm
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MJ isn't "FOr weeding out 'shitty' sperm"
It Just happens to kill sperm that are intolerant to MJ :D
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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I guess you gentlemen will have to refrain from consuming MJ for the sake of mankind and leave it to us women.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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A few questions:

Does MJ actually lower sperm count? I've heard the same thing about mountain dew, tv, cell phones, and pretty much everything. I'm not willing to just accept this as fact because finshaggy heard it from a smoking buddy.

Assuming it does in fact lower sperm count, aren't there a whole range of possibilities of different mechanisms? Is it actually killing already developed sperm, or is it simply preventing as many from being manufactured? Wouldn't many of these possibilities limit sperm count while not necessarily distinguishing between weak and strong sperm? Shouldn't most sperm be indistinguishable from one another? I mean they are just carrying some chromosomes, so as long as the chromosome duplication process is fine all the sperm should still be fine right?

It seems that something like your tolerance, or the way chemicals react with your receptors would be determined by genetic code. It would be like retrieving blue prints from a water logged building and reasoning that any legible blue prints will build you a more water proof house because they survived a leaky building.
 
PeyoteReligion

PeyoteReligion

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If I smoke weed it will not affect the ability for my potential son to handle it any better in anyway shape of form. It's not a trait with an ability to get passed on. It's not recessive OR dominant, like hair line, or height, alcoholism, etc. Tolerance is not a trait that gets passed on. If you smoke your tolerance goes up and sperm count goes down. Stop smoking and your sperm count goes up. It's only directly related to useage, not genetics. Biology does not work that easy. But you are on the right road with selective breeding. But you cannot affect the dominant or recessive traits by smoking more or less. :(

Tolerance is not even a trait found in genetics, it more like a variable affected directly by using the given stimuli.
 
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