The Problem in America is Big Government

[londonfog]

Completely false...

When was the last time a religious person persecuted you? Are you followed around and hounded by them? FFS you sure seem to have a chip on your shoulder for people believing in an invisible deity...

Every Sunday I don't attend church with the wife...and thats a lot

 

[abandonconflict]

Agreed. Conservative for some reason has to come with religious ties. The religious absolutely fail to understand the concept of religious freedom and freedom from religion.

This is because morality comes from an external force with these people. They don't actually have a conscious, they don't need one, they have a "God" to tell them what is good. It also comes built in with the desire for other people to stop having a conscious and submit to worshiping a deity that can decide fate for them.

 

[NLXSK1]

i was punished every day in grade school when i refused to pledge allegiance due to the 'under god' part being in there.

i could go on and on about ways people other than myself have faced "persecution" due to the pervasive influence of religion on society.

You were a kid not a patriotic objector. LOL!!

 

[Carne Seca]

It happens to me daily. Including this board.

 

[NLXSK1]

It happens to me daily. Including this board.

Proves how big a wuss you are...

 

[UncleBuck]

Proves how big a wuss you are...

carne faces actual persecution, and you call him a wuss.

the DOJ tries to stop a church from firing someone in a discriminatory fashion and you cry persecution and start a thread about it.

i think it is clear who has the thin skin here.

 

[NLXSK1]

carne faces actual persecution, and you call him a wuss.

the DOJ tries to stop a church from firing someone in a discriminatory fashion and you cry persecution and start a thread about it.

i think it is clear who has the thin skin here.

Actual persecution FROM THE INTERNET?? Seriously dude? LOL!!!

The 9th district is the most liberal court in the nation. Their opinions are overturned something like 80% of the time... And likely it will be in this case as well.

Here is why. Marriage is not a right as set forth in the bill of rights. It is a PRIVILEDGE granted by the state. How do I know this? Because you are issued a marriage 'License'.

Since marriage is not a right, it cannot be argued that it is being taken away. So, eventually, like most of the other rulings from the nutty 9th, it will be overturned in favor of the PEOPLE...

 

[UncleBuck]

Actual persecution FROM THE INTERNET?? Seriously dude? LOL!!!

The 9th district is the most liberal court in the nation. Their opinions are overturned something like 80% of the time... And likely it will be in this case as well.

Here is why. Marriage is not a right as set forth in the bill of rights. It is a PRIVILEDGE granted by the state. How do I know this? Because you are issued a marriage 'License'.

Since marriage is not a right, it cannot be argued that it is being taken away. So, eventually, like most of the other rulings from the nutty 9th, it will be overturned in favor of the PEOPLE...

you were mouth farting something about "for the people"...

LOL! you suck at this.

not that this is something that people get to decide anyway...

"fundamental rights may not be submitted to a vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections"

i am very proud of that liberal court in recognizing that this is a matter having to do with the 14th amendment. i think i trust their opinion over that of a partisan hack like you.

if you were a TRUE conservative, rather than a party partisan fox news parroter, you would feel the same way.

 

[UncleBuck]

and while we are on the topic, let me say this to the paulistas: your savior supports doma AND dadt repeal.

so basically, he's fine if the gays want to fight for their country, but is not willing to support their access to equal treatment and rights.

 

[NLXSK1]

I already explained that I want government completely out of it just like many other things.

Show me in the bill of rights where "Marriage" is granted.

That is the fallacy in your argument.

 

[Blaze Master]

that gay marriage graph kinda looks like a crude drawing of a penis

 

[NLXSK1]

that gay marriage graph kinda looks like a crude drawing of a penis

More like a vag... but you are smoking good stuff eh?

 

[UncleBuck]

I already explained that I want government completely out of it just like many other things.

Show me in the bill of rights where "Marriage" is granted.

That is the fallacy in your argument.

show me where in the bill of rights it mentions ice cream is granted.

since it isn't, ice cream is meant for straight people, and gays can't have it.

fact is, the government issues marriage licenses for any number of reasons, legal and otherwise. this isn't going to end anytime soon.

denying this license to one group of citizens over another is a clear violation of the 14th amendment, and anyone who can fucking read can see that.

the fallacy in your argument is that it is based in fantasy land and partisan talking points.

 

[UncleBuck]

that gay marriage graph kinda looks like a crude drawing of a penis

wow, i would hate to have your penis

i keed, i keed.

 

[NLXSK1]

fact is, the government issues marriage licenses for any number of reasons, legal and otherwise.

They do?

Based on your reasoning, it is not constitutional to deny a 4 year old a drivers license

 

[UncleBuck]

They do?

Based on your reasoning, it is not constitutional to deny a 4 year old a drivers license

here's what you're grasping for...

i made sure they were bendy straws, i know how much people like you love bendy straws.

 

[Carne Seca]

Too funny.

 

[NoDrama]

This gay marriage thing is for the States to decide, says so right in the Constitution.

 

[UncleBuck]

This gay marriage thing is for the States to decide, says so right in the Constitution.

nope. 14th amendment is pretty clear.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th amendment clearly cock blocks the 10th here.

 

[Carne Seca]

This gay marriage thing is for the States to decide, says so right in the Constitution.

:: Patting NoDrama on the head:: Just vote for Ron Paul and live in your little fantasy Libertarian utopia. Meanwhile the rest of are are continuing the fight for universal equality.