7 days of dark. The final flush.

Rumple

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FIRST OFF - Personalities dont grow weed.
Second- GREEN LIGHT! Can you say G-R-E-E-N L-I-G-H-T?
Third - How do MASTERS act? LOL
Fourth - How do you know what Ive done or havent done? Look at my pics. Those are just a small sample of what Ive done. Just so you know that Im diverse in my knowledge and a master at growing soil, hydro, DWC, SCRoG, SOG, Verticle, Perpetual. Im a master at cloning as well. Heres some root pics. Day 5. Two days after this pic was taken the roots tripled in length and were t/ped.
Fifth - I dont care if you find yourself in "HIGH DISBELIEF". You will never get the chance to smoke my gear so its a mute argument you make.
You left out how handsome and rich you are.
 

tremend00oo

Active Member
so let me get this straight 5000joints you flush last 2 weeks (week 8 - 10) and on week 10 a dark period of 7 days while flushing day 1,4,6 is this correct ?
 

LIVE2GRO

Active Member
i was told from a hydro store owner.. that hes seen stuff grown organicly..and in Canna COCO with Bio Canna or any CAnna product and he couldnt tell the difference between the flushed and not flushed... see COCO needs to be watered at have 20 % run off.. so ur basicly flushing the salts out every watering without nutes.. so every water day flushes.. so now that ive been using coco.. i can say i can only go 5 days with the flush.. or the plants start to die .. and with the 7 days of dark.. i dont think doing 7 days is to much.. but hey man.. wat ever works for u to get the amazing buds u do shouldnt affect anyone else anyways .. so whats the harm... ???? lol iunno y everyone cant just be friendly about it .. but watever.
 

RedWhiteBlueGreen

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Firstly, i don't think anyone can argue with 5000Joints if those pic results were obtained using his described methods - that is the most amazingly sexy series of bud pics i have seen in a long time! Not one is looking either weak & limpy, nor not one showing anything less than an industrial strength coating of crystals! Some of them look like they've been hosed down by a passing THC-laden fire-truck!! Truely stunning pics!

As for me, on my next harvest i'm gonna try a combo of 5000's & Bricktops info and do a 7 day period of ice cold flushes, with the final 72 hrs of this 7 days spent in total darkness. Some useful info tho cheers peeps!
 

Harrekin

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Firstly, i don't think anyone can argue with 5000Joints if those pic results were obtained using his described methods - that is the most amazingly sexy series of bud pics i have seen in a long time! Not one is looking either weak & limpy, nor not one showing anything less than an industrial strength coating of crystals! Some of them look like they've been hosed down by a passing THC-laden fire-truck!! Truely stunning pics!

As for me, on my next harvest i'm gonna try a combo of 5000's & Bricktops info and do a 7 day period of ice cold flushes, with the final 72 hrs of this 7 days spent in total darkness. Some useful info tho cheers peeps!
Dude just pic a better strain with a higher THC percentage and more trics. Proper "white strains" and any other good quality strain should look dipped in sugar.

If not its a shit strain...simples.

The purpose of the 72 hours darkness is to increase THC % in the already existing trics, it's doesn't add more trics! Your tric number is a genetic factor. It adds more THC to the trics you already have because THC is made mostly in the dark and degrades in light. By removing the latter and boosting the former it can leads to a 30% increase in THC.
 

PeyoteReligion

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I did the 72 hour dark period on my first harvest on the advice from a good friend / ganja guru. I'm def. glad I did. Nowadays I am unable to do this as I have a perpetual flower room now, and do not harvest everything all at once. But I'm still harvesting enough to not really have space for putting them into a long dark period. Don't even have an extra closet for storing em in the dark. Hopefully my next place will be bigger I can have a room straight dedicated to flush/dark period. That would kick ass.
 

tripboufe

Active Member
Man I will try 3 days of dark only but not putting ice on my plants... Or flushing em to much just dark period :)
 

bigv1976

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Sorry man, pistils catch pollen, trics provide UV protection. As has been stated, the SIMMs Institute did empirical research on it and it gave up to a 30% THC increase (strain dependent), not a 30% tric increase.

Theres more rubbish myth and legend to growing than there was in Ancient Greece!
If you say so. I have read otherwise from many sources but you are on RIU so you must be right.
 

Brick Top

New Member
The purpose of the 72 hours darkness is to increase THC % in the already existing trics, it's doesn't add more trics! Your tric number is a genetic factor.
You are right about how an extended period of darkness increases the amount of THC in existing trichomes and not causing the creation of more/new trichomes.

But what you said about the number of trichomes being; "a genetic factor" is only so accurate. The genetics of any strain might be called it's upper or highest limits, it's maximum possible level, but there is no guarantee of ever reaching, or even getting all that near to the max, so someone could grow a strain that could be the whitest ever and it not end up being all that white.

Genetics are about 50% of your final result, with the other 50% being made up of the very best possible growing environment/conditions and grower skill.

An example about trichome production. The very same strain, and as in clones, grown in regions of higher UV-B rays will produce more trichomes than the same plant will in regions with lower amounts of UV-B.

So, indoors, if someone adds UV-B lighting they will see an increase in number of trichomes over and above what they would have had, or had in the past when growing the very same strain. All because the growing environment/conditions were more conducive to bringing out more of what the strain's genetics would allow the strain to do or reach.

What it shows is that genetics are not a guarantee that someone will reach/have/achieve the max the genetics will allow. But instead genetics are only a guarantee of having the possibility to reach/have/achieve IF you provide the best possible growing environment/conditions and have the skill needed to tickle out every last bit of what the genetic coding will allow.
 

5000joints

New Member
You are right about how an extended period of darkness increases the amount of THC in existing trichomes and not causing the creation of more/new trichomes.

But what you said about the number of trichomes being; "a genetic factor" is only so accurate. The genetics of any strain might be called it's upper or highest limits, it's maximum possible level, but there is no guarantee of ever reaching, or even getting all that near to the max, so someone could grow a strain that could be the whitest ever and it not end up being all that white.

Genetics are about 50% of your final result, with the other 50% being made up of the very best possible growing environment/conditions and grower skill.

An example about trichome production. The very same strain, and as in clones, grown in regions of higher UV-B rays will produce more trichomes than the same plant will in regions with lower amounts of UV-B.

So, indoors, if someone adds UV-B lighting they will see an increase in number of trichomes over and above what they would have had, or had in the past when growing the very same strain. All because the growing environment/conditions were more conducive to bringing out more of what the strain's genetics would allow the strain to do or reach.

What it shows is that genetics are not a guarantee that someone will reach/have/achieve the max the genetics will allow. But instead genetics are only a guarantee of having the possibility to reach/have/achieve IF you provide the best possible growing environment/conditions and have the skill needed to tickle out every last bit of what the genetic coding will allow.
Very well said. I have much to learn still. Great input and knowledge there Brick Top. Keep up the good work!
 
For all you HATERS that think you know how to grow weed- Dont listen. Ive already did years of side-by-side comparisons with more strains than I know what to do with.
BC Purps
BC God Bud
East Coast Sour Diesel
DJ Shorts True Blueberry
Green House Great White Shark
and ON and ON and ON. Ive grown over 100 strains.
I USE THIS TECHNIQUE BECAUSE IT WORKS!!! I know that my weed will be grown to perfection and thats all that matters.
very interesting technique.... would you recommend it for ebb and flow in rockwool? my 4" cubes only holds water for about 4 hours with light on, will they be okay with no watering for a few days with light off?

btw, im looking into BC Bud Depot, (BC GOD BUD, BC PURPS). How did you like them? are these solid strains to get??? if not what do you recommend
 

SupraSPL

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I agree a dark period adds frosting for most varieties. Terpenes increase and I am assuming potency increases but it is too subjective for me to tell.
 

unohu69

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hey there 5000J's, (is that a reference to the 7th generation joint myth?) anyway, i am much more interested in your cloning method, those girls are true root beauty's.

And yeah BC Purps are my favorite strain so far, my momma is a grape sativa pheno. truly rock ur world stuff.
Just pulled in a Godbud to, first one was a little early, but the second one is sweet looking, hangn up now..
 

FR33MASON

Active Member
He is correct. You tend to stumble upon lots of misinformation on the interwebs (wiki) but learning through science, now that you can't dispute.
Very true but a lot of what has been passed a scientific fact on many threads without any math to back it up and without numbers, it's still just opinion and not fact. That is something to consider when taking in supposed scientific facts.

This is a great thread though and I think I'm going to try this technique for finishing thanks for all the food for thought.
 

tripboufe

Active Member
Has anyone tried dark period with Ak47 and big bud??? My first grow so I don't want to Experiment that much, already applied LST , next grow something else
 

my1stgrow

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5000, no need blow a gasket. I'm not correcting you, I was asking a question because I intend to do this 7 days of dark technique. Forgive me, oh all knowing master of the cannabis cultivation, I'm humbled in your presence. I'm naught but a pollen chucking closet growing newbie, spare me, oh master! Spare me!

But really, no need to flip out. Everywhere you go on these forums, people are going to have a different opinion than you. Something may work for you, something else may work for someone else. Some people may try to correct you, yes; but others are just sharing what worked for them.

As for me, however, all I wanted to know if they had to have 7 days of ABSOLUTE dark, and if so, how the hell do I see to water them? Again, as I feel it needs to be reiterated: NO NEED TO FREAK OUT. Just because you claim to know more than some "pollin chucking closet growing newbie" doesn't make you a "master" one should hardly call themselves a master, when there is so much you HAVEN'T done, and so much you DON'T know.

You too were a newbie at some point, and as far as I'm concerned, you still are. "Masters" don't act like that. As for your weed being the "smoothest, tastiest, most potent bud around" I find myself in high disbelief. There is no grow op that can compare the legal ones ran in University research facilities around the US. Before you go and claim you've got the best, I'd like to see a molecular breakdown of your product.

On a parting note, you do act like a padawan.

I bid you adieu,
-Panda

...and now to await the shitstorm...




Forgot to add it, but dark+damp does = mold. However, I imagine the actual buds themselves aren't being watered, so mold really shouldn't be an issue.
I'm a newbie myself, but I gotta add my 2 cents. I believe its dark plus water plus NO ventilation and NO cerculation that equals mold. I learned this from watering at night in my beginning days and getting mold to later running the 72 hrs of dark without a worry at all do to room upgrades. N
 

my1stgrow

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Seven days of dark? *stumbles over plants and gear while trying to water*

On a more serious note, how do you water them during this dark phase? I know that if you expose your plants to light during the dark hours of flowering, you risk stressing them and causing hermaphrodites. Do the plants mind a few minutes of light while you water them?
Halairious btw I litterally lol'd
 
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