What Is The Best Consistency for Making BHO?

[str8sativa]

go and buy the huge hundred gram SOUR glass extractor its the shit or you can make some uni bomber shit like turbocivics inventive but looks like a bomb ha

 

[turbocivic6776]

yea I made mine like that because i cant stand to wait for an item to be shipped I want whatever i pay for NOW! so I went and made it I think I am going to start making cheap ass extractors out of Poly-ethylene tubing i can get it for free from work and butane wont harm it and I can get all kinds of fittings to help make it for free also and i can make it just about any size from 5/8" x 5" up to 8" x 40' yes 40'

 

[oHsiN666]

i bought a glass one at a hydro shop, because i too could not wait. i never took any pics. but totally figured it out to a tee! people are eating it up! its seriously AWESOME! i had a buddy tell me he took 2 rips and was intensely high for 5 hours. and he is an everyday puffer with a pretty high tolerance. that is all the feedback i need. i still need to read the rest of the pages i missed out on, but i need to figure out how much blasting is too much blasting.

 

[washedmothafuka]

^What you mean by too much? 1ounce of bud per 300ml can of butane.

 

[turbocivic6776]

i dont see what is hard to figrue out about how long to blast for i mean it just starts coming out clear and you know it is done. then i let is sit for at least a few hours and do another run and then to me the bud is trash. 2nd run doesnt taste or smell as good or even look as good as 1st run but it still does the trick and not worth throwing away imo. It is still 10x stronger then bud and not as harsh.

 

[Michael Phelps]

In response to the original thread question.


My first run i do whole nugs. Second run, broken up by hand. If nugs are really dense, ill powder the nug for the 3rd run.



To be honest i dont notice to much of a difference in overall flavor, harshness, potency, etc. between the first and the second run, the only real difference is the clarity of the oil(bag appeal).


Im no expert in this matter but over the last 10 or so runs i feel ive started to perfect my technique to the point where it comes out consistent every time. Figured id share them with you..

Some people tend to start whipping while their is still a pool of butane in their dish, i refrain from doing this.


1. Once the pool of butane is gone i throw it in the oven at 150 or so for 1 min just to help force some of the butane out.
2. I then scrape the unpurged bho onto some parchment paper in a THIN layer, the thinner the better in my opinion.
3. Get 2 pots and make sure one's bigger then the other.
4. Boil water on low-medium in the bigger pot.
5. Place piece of parchment paper flat in the smaller pot.
6. Hold smaller pot in the boiling water, best to have good lighting, LED's work great.
7. It wont be long before you start to see your bho liquifying and the butane escaping at every possible place.


Now you have 2 options at this point. Either A, you can turn it to more of a wax consistency, or B you can turn it to more of a taffy like consistency.

Personally seeing as how i pretty much only dab my bho i like it to be that taffy texture, i find that not only is it easier to get on your dabber, but by not whipping so much you are leaving more of the Terpene's intact creating a more tasty oil(not saying wax's dont taste good, they certainly do ).


8. At this point your going to let it sit for a couple minutes just watching. Be your own judge as it's different for the amount of oil your purging.
9. Pull the bho off the stove and let it cool down. (10-15min)
10. Once cooled examine the oil with a LED light, determine how much butane is left. The oil should still be fairly transparent from the lack of whipping allowing you to judge how much butane is left in it.
11. I can promise more likely then not your going to need to purge again, i just do in steps as not to fuck anything up haha.
12. Again place the parchment paper flat in the smaller pot to double boil.
13. Once the bho once again liquifies watch it as the butane leaves the oil.
14. At this point i generally take something small and skinny like my dental tool and lightly drag it through the oil watching it pop bubbles forcing the last remnants of butane out.
15. Again let the oil cool down, you notice at this point it's more of a taffy texture as opposed to being straight oil.
16. Examine once again with the light, if it appears that all butane is gone you can either do a flame test or take a dab.

If you find their is still a slight amount of butane in your oil just keep double boil it again and repeat.




Essentially i focus more on the heat and less on the whipping. My oils are great now, they stick to my dabber easily, taste great, and i feel they are just about as clean as one can get without vacuum purging... Then again, im sure a year from now ill probably laugh at myself for saying that.

 

[Michael Phelps]

Then again i have read things about heat activating thc so who knows, anyone want to chime in?


Turbocivic i just read you thread, you said you purge it at 120 degrees? i wonder what mine is, maybe slightly to hot even. But then again i can always reach down and touch the inside of the pyrex without burning myself. Like you, it slightly stings, but doesnt burn.

 

[oHsiN666]

ok. just for the record. i have patients that love the stuff i make. but trust me. they notice a difference when i do something difference. the only major complaint i have got though, honestly is they seem to not like it whipped. go figure.

i asked about "over blasting" because someone mentioned. i have no issues making the stuff. in fact, i think everyone should try my method once against their own method and let me know if you notice a difference. id bet a 7g bud you will. but that may be just my opinion, but im running tests. so ill let you know my results.

and mr Phelps. i have to come back and read your post. got no time right now, but i will soon. thanks for your input.

happy smoking nuggas!!

 

[washedmothafuka]

No offense oHsiN but what makes your method that much better than everyone elses?

 

[oHsiN666]

wow! did i say that? NO! i didn't!! i said try it. i still stand behind my statement.

 

[oHsiN666]

let me ask you...how many times have you made BHO?

 

[washedmothafuka]

i asked about "over blasting" because someone mentioned. i have no issues making the stuff. in fact, i think everyone should try my method once against their own method and let me know if you notice a difference. id bet a 7g bud you will. but that may be just my opinion, but im running tests. so ill let you know my results.

Sorry, I might of read it wrong but that sounds like you would bet a 7 gram nug that your method is better than any of ours. And I am asking what makes it so much better?

 

[str8sativa]

phelps see few thinks in your method that can be condensed and more efficient

 

[str8sativa]

i think im at like fifty runs now its hard to keep track after awhile everything becomes a haze when you smoke that shit

 

[Michael Phelps]

phelps see few thinks in your method that can be condensed and more efficient

Sweet, thats always good!

please enlighten me?

 

[str8sativa]

blast into a pyrex dish that is already sitting in boiling water so the butane evaporates immediately and quickly. what works well for me is the rectangle pyrex dish sitting in aluminum turkey cooking tray filled with the boiling water. grind your bud or trim up first instead of doing multiple runs with same product get it all the first time. instead of purging with the paper and double boiling. fill the aluminum dish with boiling water and put the pyrex with the oil in it for the second purge let it bubble for ten fifteen minutes pop bubbles, then gather oil into blob on middle of dish take off the heat and put it in the freezer for ten minutes for rapid cooling , then back into boiling water bath for third and final purge let the oil heat a little then begin to whip and spread over heat and the oil will go from an amber color to gold keep whippin and spreading and it will solidify before your very eyes

 

[oHsiN666]

well, i dont wanna sound cocky. im not saying my method IS better, im just saying that after all the times ive made it, it comes out perfect! and i share mine with many people who share it with their friends. and trust me when i say this. i have never made a bunk batch, and everyone wants more! i have tried other methods and it comes out harsher and darker with less yield. and you waste too much time doing stuff that should be done in advance. and multiple runs makes for difference grades. as i mentioned before, i get a clean amber almost clear honey like consistency. the 2nd run is more oily, darker and a tad bit harsher. trust me. i make the stuff about 20-30 times a year. and have been making it for about 9-10 years. i have went from a plastic extractor to a glass extractor. i have went from coffee filter, which in my opinion, is the worst filter to use. i use a silk Organza cloth. its super thin, finely woven and nothing flies through. i chop the first batch of herb up with scissors, so its chunky. not powdery. then i blast that. i take that first run and i keep that as my own. i then add about another 14-21 grams and run the new herb and the run herb in a coffee grinder. i then blast all this together and get, what my patients find to be just the same if not better, batch of oil. ive been making it about 2-3 times a week for the past 8 weeks. i have been trial and error-ing several different methods. and like i said, my method IS NOT the best. and who knows you method may be just as good as mine. but i shit you not the batch im smoking now, is the same batch i made 7 weeks ago. ive made a countless amount of batches since then, and everyone that gets some says its the same as the batch im smoking on. i just think i have a better taste for the different runs. i even dip the tip of the extractor into the butane while im extracting. i have a buddy that swears by this method. im still kinda on the fence about it. i have noticed that a chewing gum size chunk, and it looks chewed even, floats around in the butane while evaporating. this is something new i have just started trying. i dont think it makes a difference, but it does make a nice and thick! when i make it i fill the sink up with hot hot water, plus it off so it dont drain. you could just add the boiling hot water to your sink, ya know. save ya a few bucks on them aluminum trays. i use a square 1quart Pyrex container. i have found that the smaller the container, the thicker it is, and easier to get out. on my last batch, i whipped it all up and got literally every bit out. i then heated it up a little and scraped out bout a half gram or nice thick hard oil. it looked clean as hell but still had some in it. im not saying my method is godly, but i lost count after making it so much after my friend showed me what it was back in 03'-04'. i bought a Honey Bee extractor from Canada. i love the stuff!!! i wish you lived closer, id love to have a little blind challenge test. if you dont think my method is good enough to try at least once, then thats fine. maybe you dont have access to buds like i do. but please take it into consideration at least once. also, when i make it. i use 2 container. 1 for the first run and one for the second run. i usually make them on the same day and same time. but ive been known to wait a day or 2 in between batches. i think getting air to it and letting it ""cure" over night adds to it a little. like when you make bubble hash. all this oil talk, shit look at the time!! its 7:10 !!!

 

[oHsiN666]

blast into a pyrex dish that is already sitting in boiling water so the butane evaporates immediately and quickly. what works well for me is the rectangle pyrex dish sitting in aluminum turkey cooking tray filled with the boiling water. grind your bud or trim up first instead of doing multiple runs with same product get it all the first time. instead of purging with the paper and double boiling. fill the aluminum dish with boiling water and put the pyrex with the oil in it for the second purge let it bubble for ten fifteen minutes pop bubbles, then gather oil into blob on middle of dish take off the heat and put it in the freezer for ten minutes for rapid cooling , then back into boiling water bath for third and final purge let the oil heat a little then begin to whip and spread over heat and the oil will go from an amber color to gold keep whippin and spreading and it will solidify before your very eyes

you don't want to hear this, and im sure you won't believe me anyways, but man, all that hot and cold back and forth with glass, your container will crack one day. you don't have to believe me, but its scientifically possible. i wouldn't take that chaance. you do know Butane evaporates at 98.9 degrees. practically room temp. all you need is the hottest water from the sink to run out your tap, clog hole in drain and WA-LA! you can place your dish in the sink! i wouldn't risk the hot and cold extreme temp changes with glass. thats just me though, i seen to much glass crack in front of my face. happy oil making!!!

 

[oHsiN666]

Sorry, I might of read it wrong but that sounds like you would bet a 7 gram nug that your method is better than any of ours. And I am asking what makes it so much better?

i think you may need to re-read the post my friend.

 

[str8sativa]

believe me i thought it would crack the first time to the dish is just chilled not frozen, and pyrex is some super strong shit, ya hotter water just purges it better and faster i think