humboldt county snowstorm?

[the stoned crab]

So when you know these people were poisoning you and your family and you still buy and use their other products?

The guy makes the shit in Humboldt County. He knows you are going to use the shit to grow herb. All the shit that was in his other products have been specifically banned everywhere for everything other than ornamentals. What kind of person does shit like that?

You people really put shit like that on weed and sell it to your friends and family? Wow.

 

[Harrekin]

So when you know these people were poisoning you and your family and you still buy and use their other products?

The guy makes the shit in Humboldt County. He knows you are going to use the shit to grow herb. All the shit that was in his other products have been specifically banned everywhere for everything other than ornamentals. What kind of person does shit like that?

You people really put shit like that on weed and sell it to your friends and family? Wow.

And to be honest, why bother posting this in the organics section? Snow Storm is about as far from organic as you can get, infact, if it contains PGR's then its far less "organic" than "synthetic" nutrients...

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

Jesus, I just read the first 3 pages of this thread and it was just back and forth rhetoric of who has a bigger virtual dick. Let's get real folks, without side by side comparisons of identical clones in identical conditions there's absolutely nothing to discuss. If you don't have proof or validity of your claim, please don't sit here and post your opinion over and over as if that makes it any more legitimate.

And yes, I do use Snow Storm Ultra as well as Crystal Burst. I've continue to run them despite not doing any side by sides because the cost of running these products is less than $1 per plant per run. I will do some side by sides here soon.

Virtual dick huh......

And your test will give THE definitive answer?......

LOL

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

They dont contain hormones, they contain PGR's which are chemicals that actually inhibit the production of hormones within the plant.

If anyone here could post up the ingredients for Snow Storm that'd be great, Humboldts other products contain PGR's, if Snow Storm is just a KOH suppliment then why waste money on it? If it contains PGR's then youre an idiot for using it.

Ill await the ingredients list.

I think OGEvile said he was making his own. I was asking about a recipe....

maybe he will share.

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

And to be honest, why bother posting this in the organics section? Snow Storm is about as far from organic as you can get, infact, if it contains PGR's then its far less "organic" than "synthetic" nutrients...

The OP wanted to know if it would work with his organic line up

 

[Dubdeuce]

They dont contain hormones, they contain PGR's which are chemicals that actually inhibit the production of hormones within the plant.

If anyone here could post up the ingredients for Snow Storm that'd be great, Humboldts other products contain PGR's, if Snow Storm is just a KOH suppliment then why waste money on it? If it contains PGR's then youre an idiot for using it.

Ill await the ingredients list.

Couldn't find an "ingredients" list. But I did find the MSDS sheet from Sunlight Supply for Snowstorm:

http://www.sunlightsupply.com/docs/Emerald Triangle/Snow Storm MSDS.pdf

It claims that everything in it are all FDA approved ingredients. So if it's good enough for Monsanto, Kroger, and Wal-Mart, it must be good enough for me! lmao.

Aren't PGR's just man-made plant hormones?

Bushmaster and Gravity do contain Paclobutrazol, a known PGR.

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

So when you know these people were poisoning you and your family and you still buy and use their other products?

The guy makes the shit in Humboldt County. He knows you are going to use the shit to grow herb. All the shit that was in his other products have been specifically banned everywhere for everything other than ornamentals. What kind of person does shit like that?

You people really put shit like that on weed and sell it to your friends and family? Wow.

Dude, this is why I wont smoke weed I didnt grow.

If I dont catch cancer from the shit I HAVE smoked in my 40 years it will be a miracle.

I cant help that. I CAN control what goes into my system from now on.

 

[Harrekin]

Couldn't find an "ingredients" list. But I did find the MSDS sheet from Sunlight Supply for Snowstorm:

http://www.sunlightsupply.com/docs/Emerald Triangle/Snow Storm MSDS.pdf

It claims that everything in it are all FDA approved ingredients. So if it's good enough for Monsanto, Kroger, and Wal-Mart, it must be good enough for me! lmao.

Aren't PGR's just man-made plant hormones?

Bushmaster and Gravity do contain Paclobutrazol, a known PGR.

The MSDS for Gravity and Bushmaster list no PGR's or toxic substances... Humbolt are a scumbag company and I cant understand why anyone would buy their stuff. Their lines arnt even legal to sell in the EU.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I think OGEvile said he was making his own. I was asking about a recipe....

maybe he will share.

My understanding is it was just a potassium booster (which by the way you do not need a recipe to make, just buy some and use your TDS meter to figure out how much you want and then pH accordingly). If it has PGR's I can't easily make it. But I wouldn't make it that way anyway.

I was a bit skeptical of claims of it's efficacy given the fact I thought it was simply potassium. But if it also has PGR's that would explain some of the dramatic differences you might see in a short period of time. But it's also terrible for you.

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

I think some folks here are confusing every product Humbolt makes for having PGR's

This doesn't really belong here...bet since this thread has gone this direction and nobody is complaining...

Here is the article that some have read...we all should read this. It will clear up some misinformation.

http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html

 

[polyarcturus]

unless your like me and use organic sources of the stuff(extracted distilled whatever your preferred method of getting ingredients).... you can extract similar hormones from alphalpha..... using natural occurring hormones over the man made ones, this is why at one time NAA was not to be used for cloning plants that where to be consumed you where told to use IBA. now we know better NAA is fairly harmless but not all hormones are. stay away from synthesized hormones. look for things with hormone extracts....

 

[polyarcturus]

short list, willow,alphalpha, oats, seaweed, coconut milk, and MANY MORE plus a plethora of bacteria that can be cultured to produce impure hormones and extracts from thier waste or the bacteria itself given cell membranes are destroyed

 

[OGEvilgenius]

That article just pretty much confirms a lot of what has been said in this thread, admittedly I didn't read it all as it's extremely long, but gazing over the most pertinent details it would appear that Humboldt County is indeed using PGR's in their products. Just because they don't list Snow Storm does not mean it doesn't as well. Considering they don't list them on their other products, it's not a stretch to suggest it probably does too.

 

[polyarcturus]

i use a few humboldt products but no i dont think they put it in much more than flower enhancers. i read quite a few article like that and thats why i stay away from anything that ENHANCES. i use thier HONEY, MAYAN MICROZYME and thier PROZYME its all been REALLY good to me so far. especialy the microzme and prozyme

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

That article just pretty much confirms a lot of what has been said in this thread, admittedly I didn't read it all as it's extremely long, but gazing over the most pertinent details it would appear that Humboldt County is indeed using PGR's in their products. Just because they don't list Snow Storm does not mean it doesn't as well. Considering they don't list them on their other products, it's not a stretch to suggest it probably does too.

I think its a good enough reason to boycott their products.

I dont think that there are PGR's in snowstorm though.

California tested all of them and did not pull snowstorm

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

Heres some food for thought..been reading...

The FDA says Alar gives a 5 in one Million chance of getting cancer.

They say 5000 liters of contaminated apple juice a day would be whaty it would take.


What are the chances of getting cancer just because you smoke weed ...period. Smoking aint good for us...


I'm not using the stuff.....just saying...

5 in 1,000,000 is a really low incident.

 

[RawBudzski]

All I know is that they do wrk.

with all the illegal cancer causing agents in it, makes me believe it would work that much more..

So ONCE AGAIN, can I foliar feed a plant with SS.. while still growing in supersoil.. I am wanting to do side by side results..

 

[Dubdeuce]

i use a few humboldt products but no i dont think they put it in much more than flower enhancers. i read quite a few article like that and thats why i stay away from anything that ENHANCES. i use thier HONEY, MAYAN MICROZYME and thier PROZYME its all been REALLY good to me so far. especialy the microzme and prozyme

You're talking about Humboldt Nutrients. The products under discussion (Snow Storm, Crystal Burst, Gravity, Bushmaster) are actually by a company called Emerald Triangle that use a tag slogan of "Humboldt County's Own", so often to much their delight, their products are confused with a much more reputable company.

 

[tomcatjones]

All I know is that they do wrk.

with all the illegal cancer causing agents in it, makes me believe it would work that much more..

So ONCE AGAIN, can I foliar feed a plant with SS.. while still growing in supersoil.. I am wanting to do side by side results..

Just don't hand it to anyone when it done and call it organic.

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

All I know is that they do wrk.

with all the illegal cancer causing agents in it, makes me believe it would work that much more..

So ONCE AGAIN, can I foliar feed a plant with SS.. while still growing in supersoil.. I am wanting to do side by side results..

The only thing it could harm are beneficial bacteria and fungi. The only way to tell if you are hurting them is a microscope.

You have a living food web that is unique , somewhat, to your plants. Depending on soil, ACT,s used, etc.

To introduce a chemical to that environment and KNOW you aren't hurting anything would entail you scoping out...before and after.

IMHO, anything else is speculation. I always assume I kill them when I use chems. So I follow up the chem feeding with a good ACT.

It works for me.