phillipchristian
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Light movers will give you a lower yield if used in flower.
Is It Possible to Pull 2400g Off 2x600w???
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fred flintstoned
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I've seen Heath Robison get 2 GPW more than once. But if we all had his skills the world would be knee deep in buds.
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fatboyOGOF
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aim much much lower and you won't be bummed when the harvest is dryed!
Id shoot for 1gpw unless you have done some major pheno finding and had a chance to get to know tha cut inside and out. Here in internet land its really easy to get carried away and exagerate stories, a wise man once told me believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. At the end of the day anything over 1gpw is killing it especially if the quality is there.
painkillerman
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phillipchristianI don't think it's possible buddy. That's a shitload of grams per watt. I've NEVER heard of anyone pulling 2g per watt in 12 years of growing. Even if you had a big setup with 6 said:
Dank Raptor
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18 hour cycle.. 2500 grams in a 4x4.. 108 plants per 1k with a 23 gram average. BULLSHIT X3
painkillerman
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wow try it dank maybe ull learn .. calax is where and does what also what makes racmens mass?
...ill keep this simlpe as ur plant can only keep up advanced growth rates for 40-60%of a 12 hour period thus has lead the top botianists come up will 6/12 as this is faster and WILL OUT PERFORM ANY 12/12 CYCLED GARDEN VS TIME GROWN ALL CONDITIONS SAME other than light shec. and end year count aswell due to increased harvests saving money to boot
...ill keep this simlpe as ur plant can only keep up advanced growth rates for 40-60%of a 12 hour period thus has lead the top botianists come up will 6/12 as this is faster and WILL OUT PERFORM ANY 12/12 CYCLED GARDEN VS TIME GROWN ALL CONDITIONS SAME other than light shec. and end year count aswell due to increased harvests saving money to boot
Dank Raptor
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your contradicting yourself. First you said 18/6 which is a VEG cycle. Then you said 6/12 which again you are talking out of your ass because there is more then 18 hours in a day.
ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD
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NO!
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painkillerman
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never did i say 18/6 in any postsas i dont do veg cycles
18 hours cycle 6 on 12 off......9 half days growth in 7 with no loss
of course 24 hours are in day.....this is the point ur speeding up the growth by tricking the plants cycle 6on/12off digital timer done
but these are avanced methods resulting in super growth rates and will out perform any and all 12/12 cycle gardens conditions the same other than day cycle
80-90%of the plants daily energy is depleted before 40-60% of the day is over leading the greatest growers on theplanet to come up with this method
hands down best way ive ever grown but each thier own
some ppl have real hard time believing this until u do it ud think half the light half the yeild but it the other way round as 18 hour cycle days will beat a tradtional garden every time 45 day strain done in 30 finished with no loss in yeilds also boosts cbn development the science says
18 hours cycle 6 on 12 off......9 half days growth in 7 with no loss
of course 24 hours are in day.....this is the point ur speeding up the growth by tricking the plants cycle 6on/12off digital timer done
but these are avanced methods resulting in super growth rates and will out perform any and all 12/12 cycle gardens conditions the same other than day cycle
80-90%of the plants daily energy is depleted before 40-60% of the day is over leading the greatest growers on theplanet to come up with this method
hands down best way ive ever grown but each thier own
some ppl have real hard time believing this until u do it ud think half the light half the yeild but it the other way round as 18 hour cycle days will beat a tradtional garden every time 45 day strain done in 30 finished with no loss in yeilds also boosts cbn development the science says
fred flintstoned
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^^^^^ bullshit x4^^^^
painkillerman
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The Theory
The theory behind the 18 hour Day/Night cycle is that during a normal 24 hour light cycle plants will usually achieve high growth rates peaking at 100% capacity during the first 50 - 60% of the day. The growth rates will then diminish rapidly and the last 20 - 30% of the day achieves minimal growth. So by reducing the length of the day we are triggering an increased growth mode where the growth rates are at their peak for the majority of the day. This effectively achieves a very fast growth cycle with full yield potential.
NOTE: To achieve these incredible growth rates it is important to provide maximum light intensities and CO2 enriched conditions. The recommended lighting is 600W per square meter.
The Cycles
Vegetative Cycle - Lights ON 14 hours, Lights OFF 4 hours
Flowering Cycle - Lights ON 6 hours, Lights OFF 12 hours
The Benefits
The growth achieved during an 18 hour cycle can be the equivalent to that achieved during a 24 hour cycle. So by running 18 hour cycles the same growth and yield can be achieved in 75% of the time.
Reduced day lengths also mean reduced power consumption. Grow more and use less power. Who can argue with that?
For example, an average crop grown from seed using a 24 hour day/night cycle will have a 4 weeks grow cycle and an 8 weeks flower cycle. This equates to 28 days @ 18 hours a day and 56 days @ 12 hours a day = 1176 hours of light over 12 weeks.
An accelerated crop using an 18 hour day/night cycle will achieve the same yields using a 3 week grow cycle and a 6 week flower cycle. This equates to 21 days @ 14 hours a day and 42 day
but to each thier own
The theory behind the 18 hour Day/Night cycle is that during a normal 24 hour light cycle plants will usually achieve high growth rates peaking at 100% capacity during the first 50 - 60% of the day. The growth rates will then diminish rapidly and the last 20 - 30% of the day achieves minimal growth. So by reducing the length of the day we are triggering an increased growth mode where the growth rates are at their peak for the majority of the day. This effectively achieves a very fast growth cycle with full yield potential.
NOTE: To achieve these incredible growth rates it is important to provide maximum light intensities and CO2 enriched conditions. The recommended lighting is 600W per square meter.
The Cycles
Vegetative Cycle - Lights ON 14 hours, Lights OFF 4 hours
Flowering Cycle - Lights ON 6 hours, Lights OFF 12 hours
The Benefits
The growth achieved during an 18 hour cycle can be the equivalent to that achieved during a 24 hour cycle. So by running 18 hour cycles the same growth and yield can be achieved in 75% of the time.
Reduced day lengths also mean reduced power consumption. Grow more and use less power. Who can argue with that?
For example, an average crop grown from seed using a 24 hour day/night cycle will have a 4 weeks grow cycle and an 8 weeks flower cycle. This equates to 28 days @ 18 hours a day and 56 days @ 12 hours a day = 1176 hours of light over 12 weeks.
An accelerated crop using an 18 hour day/night cycle will achieve the same yields using a 3 week grow cycle and a 6 week flower cycle. This equates to 21 days @ 14 hours a day and 42 day
but to each thier own
painkillerman
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im not in this for MONEY, medication and ya i know 3gpw is pipe dream ive been trying to obtain for18 years but it keeps me fine tweaking/expermenting i hit 2.0 gpw my 2nd grow i know it was due to backround(chemistry, bio, bontiniy ) allows a better understanding of reactions ,metaballic rate demands the whole picture becomes so much simplier thru complexity
Canada has some of the best gardeners on the planet as in my opinon
im trying to help people meet there med needs with great speed and potency this is my mission too many have go without and suffer
Canada has some of the best gardeners on the planet as in my opinon
im trying to help people meet there med needs with great speed and potency this is my mission too many have go without and suffer
indipow82
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I want to see it done. In the flowering cycle the plant is still receiving 12 hours of light just timed differently so no saving money there. Also, how is it that this flowering cycle change is not going to hermie the plant through stress? Please explain yourself as the plants history clearly shows it needs at least 11-14 hours of dark to flower and anything other than will cause it to stress/hermie and or re veg.
painkillerman
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6hours light are on
12 hours they are off dark cycle stays the same
wheres the stress?
just benifits only from this type of cycle.
12 hours they are off dark cycle stays the same
wheres the stress?
just benifits only from this type of cycle.
indipow82
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From what I just researched it can go two ways. Either loss of yield for quicker turn around( about 2 weeks). Or Increased yield for 4 weeks average of extra flowering time.. And I read damn near all of em. Jorges mentioning from the dutch and then read their results for 121 case studies, IC mags forums, etc.. So, my results/findings are pretty definite.
azman
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there are lots of factors to take into concideration here,
are you using hoods , tubes or just plain reflectors?
what medium do you use coco,soil?
nute line up too?
what intake and extraction do you use?
i use a 4x8 tent using 2x magnum xxl hoods with their own 8" L1 extraction fan, the fan is only set to come on with lights and only at 1/4 speed
then i use a 8" L1 along with a 8" carbon filter that runs constantly via a fan controller.
my temps are never above 78f .
also ensure you use oscillating fans inside this helps strengthen stems to carry the weight you are after.
p.s for intake i just use the flaps on the tent open but only 2 flaps.
i thik i have mine dialed in and have done a few cycles and average 1260 so even with co2 i think your goal would be a struggle.
a gpw (gramme per watt) or over is a successful grow.
are you using hoods , tubes or just plain reflectors?
what medium do you use coco,soil?
nute line up too?
what intake and extraction do you use?
i use a 4x8 tent using 2x magnum xxl hoods with their own 8" L1 extraction fan, the fan is only set to come on with lights and only at 1/4 speed
then i use a 8" L1 along with a 8" carbon filter that runs constantly via a fan controller.
my temps are never above 78f .
also ensure you use oscillating fans inside this helps strengthen stems to carry the weight you are after.
p.s for intake i just use the flaps on the tent open but only 2 flaps.
i thik i have mine dialed in and have done a few cycles and average 1260 so even with co2 i think your goal would be a struggle.
a gpw (gramme per watt) or over is a successful grow.
painkillerman
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i never said 1gpw wasnt a great yeild,,,, just with proper records/planning u can obtain more in less time using 18 hour days
i agree there are tons of factors but i keep records of eveything
ive tweaked either way down to intrenal rockwool temps
as i run 3 rooms seperately on a home made 3way flipper off one ballest for years as way to not only increase experiments i can run concurrently every 0ne rooms ready every 10 days harvest aswell
as i said i KNOW what iam doing ,
so iam done defending this way growing and yeilds that could be at ur fingers tips with time sorry to see you miss out on trying to improve your skill set and have already killed any chance of you ever reaching this goal u need to be confindent in your skills and improve always or whats the POINT u really happy being unsure of ur grow from time to time
as i never iam but improvenmt in ones self in an inner driving force that some dont simply have or can obtain
im 90% sure of what im experients results will be im been surprized over the years then thats when u raise to the challenge full blaze ahead and get to breaking down what room at any given time in my cycle outperformed the other'
Growing at any level effiently is as much skill as smarts to design and run a room of ur dreams than dream bigger and bigger
I hate too see a world with out the people that are pushing the limits WE WOULD STILL BE LIVING IN CAVES
SHAME REAL SHAME 1-1000 PEOPLE ARE THE RIGHT TYPE PERSONALLY mabye that y i dont see too many 2.0gpw post but there outhere
all those drugs they used in the 60's n 70's ur seeing the lack of drive in our youth just one guys rant .................................................................
i agree there are tons of factors but i keep records of eveything
ive tweaked either way down to intrenal rockwool temps
as i run 3 rooms seperately on a home made 3way flipper off one ballest for years as way to not only increase experiments i can run concurrently every 0ne rooms ready every 10 days harvest aswell
as i said i KNOW what iam doing ,
so iam done defending this way growing and yeilds that could be at ur fingers tips with time sorry to see you miss out on trying to improve your skill set and have already killed any chance of you ever reaching this goal u need to be confindent in your skills and improve always or whats the POINT u really happy being unsure of ur grow from time to time
as i never iam but improvenmt in ones self in an inner driving force that some dont simply have or can obtain
im 90% sure of what im experients results will be im been surprized over the years then thats when u raise to the challenge full blaze ahead and get to breaking down what room at any given time in my cycle outperformed the other'
Growing at any level effiently is as much skill as smarts to design and run a room of ur dreams than dream bigger and bigger
I hate too see a world with out the people that are pushing the limits WE WOULD STILL BE LIVING IN CAVES
SHAME REAL SHAME 1-1000 PEOPLE ARE THE RIGHT TYPE PERSONALLY mabye that y i dont see too many 2.0gpw post but there outhere
all those drugs they used in the 60's n 70's ur seeing the lack of drive in our youth just one guys rant .................................................................