Is It Possible to Pull 2400g Off 2x600w???

smok3y1

Active Member
You need 2gpw. Or you can have 2 crops running at the same time. And you would then need 1gpw which is achievable.
Basically you have lets say 20 plants. Put 10 in lights on and the other 10 in a different room(has to be pitch black). 12 hours later switch them and keep repeating every 12 hours. Requires alot of work but you double your yield.
 

Dayun

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just seeing if this is possible. of course the conditions would have to be perfect, the strain and all factors pointing to it being possible. with that said, has anyone pulled this off?

im asking because im in the process of designing my flower tent. i really want 2x1000w. but i may have to go with 2x600w.

if anyone cares to need anymore info to answer my question, although i think my question doesn't have to be too specific, i can provide it.
it depends on you strain but i know ppl that pull 1000g-1100g per 1000watt light hps..feeding n leeching ur soil of salt build up n the size of ur pot matter lot.. given u got good lighting n air flow.. i got 800g off 1000watt but i avg 650g per 1000watt
 

OGEvilgenius

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I don't think it's possible buddy. That's a shitload of grams per watt. I've NEVER heard of anyone pulling 2g per watt in 12 years of growing. Even if you had a big setup with 6,000-8,000watts with overlapping light and were doing a SOG I still don't think it would be possible. My room is pretty dialed in and if I can get 1.25g per watt I am super stoked.
Heath has done it in a journal before. I know he hit just under 2 growing those trees, the journal was on here and he didn't use CO2. I think he did better when he did the coleseum vertical setup (which does NOT require any extra light as you are suggesting) with the aeroponics package. I believe he was over 2gpw but that journal was lost with Overgrow.

It's not easy per say, but it's possible. At this point the only people hitting those yields are growing with vertically hanging bulbs.
 

ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD

Active Member
So whats the average gpw with 2- 600w lamps? I use 600w hps lamps and the overlap the light in the middle so I would guess the outers are getting around 700-800watts and the middles are getting 1200 wattts, diminishing outwards. I get about 10 ounces per light on the norm. That would be around, what?, say .65 gpw? Ive never achieved a gpw, I dont think. Even with co2. Maybe I have. Im just judging off a pound per light. Ive never got a lb per light with a 600w lamp. I dont know how to do the math so could someone that knows what up do it for me? LOL seriously. Im math stupid. I always hated math and can only do standard math.
2- 600w HPS lamps, each lamp gets 95,000 lumens. They are in glass hoods, air cooled. 1 foot away from the canopy. What the GPW for me. This yield was 25 ounces. Thank You.
 

smok3y1

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So whats the average gpw with 2- 600w lamps? I use 600w hps lamps and the overlap the light in the middle so I would guess the outers are getting around 700-800watts and the middles are getting 1200 wattts, diminishing outwards. I get about 10 ounces per light on the norm. That would be around, what?, say .65 gpw? Ive never achieved a gpw, I dont think. Even with co2. Maybe I have. Im just judging off a pound per light. Ive never got a lb per light with a 600w lamp. I dont know how to do the math so could someone that knows what up do it for me? LOL seriously. Im math stupid. I always hated math and can only do standard math.
2- 600w HPS lamps, each lamp gets 95,000 lumens. They are in glass hoods, air cooled. 1 foot away from the canopy. What the GPW for me. This yield was 25 ounces. Thank You.
25 ounces = 708 grams.
708g divided by 1200 = 0.59
There is definitely room for some improvements not sure where though since I am a beginner myself.
 

ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD

Active Member
Thank you very much. I used a low yielding strain this run but I thought Ide get more than this. I had an extremely nice canopy.
I would need to harvest 44 ounces to get a gpw. Are you sure the equation is right? LOL
 

Dameon

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That's like saying no one can do this better than you can. No matter how "Good" you are at something, that is relative and there is always someone who does it better. That is the truth. There are hundreds of different tweaks and available mods for any setup, and although it seems like a stretch, never say never.
 

rocknratm

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gram a watt is standard. I try for that but some strains, querkle mainly, fall short. Prob .75g/watt.

2 grams a watt is about what your saying. Maybe with co2 at 1500, some serious scrog, and the biggest yeilding strain ever (big bud maybe?).

But not likely
 

phillipchristian

New Member
Heath has done it in a journal before. I know he hit just under 2 growing those trees, the journal was on here and he didn't use CO2. I think he did better when he did the coleseum vertical setup (which does NOT require any extra light as you are suggesting) with the aeroponics package. I believe he was over 2gpw but that journal was lost with Overgrow.

It's not easy per say, but it's possible. At this point the only people hitting those yields are growing with vertically hanging bulbs.
Where am I suggesting that you need extra light? I was saying that if you had overlapping light (2 hoods produce more usable light in the middle of them) I don't think it could be done. I would like to see ANY journal that shows someone getting those yields. Any thread or video please send me a link. I don't count journals that you say were on here before. I want to see it myself cause I don't think it's possible.

Funny how you find my post from 5 pages ago to make a comment on. Are you going to just flame me forever cause you are pissed about me clowning you in a thread on Toke n' Talk? Get a life.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
Thank you very much. I used a low yielding strain this run but I thought Ide get more than this. I had an extremely nice canopy.
I would need to harvest 44 ounces to get a gpw. Are you sure the equation is right? LOL
25 ounces x 28.35 grams per ounce = 708.75 grams
708.75 grams divided by 1200 watts = .59 grams per watt

Looks correct to me.
 

840/2

Active Member
Once again. I guess there is only 18 hours a day in painkillerland. Your lights are only on for 6 hours a day off for 18 you mean?
Just wanted to chime in and clutter up this post.... Dank is hating for sure. He puts lights on for 6, off for 12. You seem to be caught up in his numbers being equal to 24. Why? Who said you must leave lights on/off for a combined total of 24 hours each day? Lights on at 10am, off at 4pm, on at 4 am, of at 10 am(24 hours elapsed time), on at 10pm, off at 4 am, on at.....should i continue? So I used his way of growing....and used the number "24" all at the same time. Everyone should be happy now. * sorry to be way off topic
 

phillipchristian

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Just wanted to chime in and clutter up this post.... Dank is hating for sure. He puts lights on for 6, off for 12. You seem to be caught up in his numbers being equal to 24. Why? Who said you must leave lights on/off for a combined total of 24 hours each day? Lights on at 10am, off at 4pm, on at 4 am, of at 10 am(24 hours elapsed time), on at 10pm, off at 4 am, on at.....should i continue? So I used his way of growing....and used the number "24" all at the same time. Everyone should be happy now. * sorry to be way off topic
Not at all off topic. Thanks for saying it. I kinda thought he was just hating as well. Thanks for clearing that up.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Where am I suggesting that you need extra light? I was saying that if you had overlapping light (2 hoods produce more usable light in the middle of them) I don't think it could be done. I would like to see ANY journal that shows someone getting those yields. Any thread or video please send me a link. I don't count journals that you say were on here before. I want to see it myself cause I don't think it's possible.

Funny how you find my post from 5 pages ago to make a comment on. Are you going to just flame me forever cause you are pissed about me clowning you in a thread on Toke n' Talk? Get a life.
Oh you're that guy. It's got nothing to do with you.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical-24.html

I believe he hit over 2gpw that one (46oz 1 600w 46x28 = 1288g) . He has hit higher numbers with even more plants in different setups. I believe he pulled almost 10lbs off 3x600w in a colesium 300 plant site aeroponic setup using Critical Mass again in a big vertical scrog which is well over 2gpw, but that journal was lost with overgrow as far as I know unless someone else has it.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
Oh you're that guy. It's got nothing to do with you.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical-24.html

I believe he hit over 2gpw that one (46oz 1 600w 46x28 = 1288g) . He has hit higher numbers with even more plants in different setups. I believe he pulled almost 10lbs off 3x600w in a colesium 300 plant site aeroponic setup using Critical Mass again in a big vertical scrog which is well over 2gpw, but that journal was lost with overgrow as far as I know unless someone else has it.
I stand corrected. 2g per watt is possible. Not for me but for Mr. Robinson it surely is. I never thought about vertical lighting in a circular grow. I've seen them before but hadn't crossed my mind. That is fucking insane what he pulled right there. Everyone, please accept my apologies. Apparently it is possible and I am not near as good a grower or room designer as I thought. :clap:
 

OGEvilgenius

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The secret is not using reflectors and making full use of the light. 1gpw is I think pretty easy to do hanging bulbs vertically. 2gpw vertically is like the 1gpw marker for non vertical grows I think.
 

ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD

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I've been thinking of hanging 2 - 600w hps lamps verticaly with no hoods. Putting my plants in a circle around them. I just dont know what Ide do with all that heat. My air-cooled hoods work great for dispersing the heat outside. Would I just keep my a/c on high all the time? A higher electric bill would be worth 2gpw.
 
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