the flaws in religion

Harrekin

Harrekin

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Zaehet Strife said:
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"If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change" -Dalai Lama

One of the greatest minds in the history of this planet.
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Buddhism is a belief system tho, not a religion. It was Buddha who said "speculation in matters of the divine is wasteful". Buddhism is a set of guidlines that teaches that everything else is bullshit except being a good person.

Buddhism=Winning if you truely think about it and it shouldn't be dirtied by being lumped in with religion.

Not a Buddhist btw, but I researched it and took some of its better points on board.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Harrekin said:
Buddhism is a belief system tho, not a religion. It was Buddha who said "speculation in matters of the divine is wasteful". Buddhism is a set of guidlines that teaches that everything else is bullshit except being a good person.

Buddhism=Winning if you truly think about it and it shouldn't be dirtied by being lumped in with religion.

Not a Buddhist btw, but I researched it and took some of its better points on board.
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Religion was not mentioned in that quotation, and im sure Mr. Lama made this statement intentionally without the word "religion" in it. There does not need to be a religion in order to acquire some sort of belief originating from an idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism -skip down to where it says concepts of Buddhism, as it explains the concepts of karma, rebirth, samsara, which are all connected to the teachings of Buddhist beliefs... these are all beliefs, and all beliefs are prone to the rigorous studies of scientific analysis and experimentation.

and if these beliefs cannot be studied upon, they must be put into the category of myth, fantasy, fairytale, magic or wishful thinking.

Either way, my point in posting this quotation is to further the point that science can tell us what we can know, but what we can know is little, and if we forget how much we cannot know we become insensitive to many things of very great importance in the universe.

Theology and metaphysics on the other hand, induces the dogmatic belief that we have knowledge, where in fact we have ignorance, and by doing so generates a kind of impertinent insolence towards the universe.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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...I think one of the biggest flaws is that few really understand it. You can't 'think' it. My opinion is that it is more of an intuitive thing. It is something much more subtle. Most importantly, you don't have to be a super mastermind to grasp it - quite the opposite I'd say. Those that say you do are totally fckd, and usually quite caught up in the visual aspects of religion. How about the idea of 'praying / meditating' out of view? Few people highlight that line in their holy books.

...the way religion is portrayed these days is not 'religions fault', but more so that of the people. Perfection is not about being perfect. You can't be perfect. But, you can live 'perfectly'.

And, it seems that "Portrayed" is a stillness that is not real.

"...hoot?" :bigjoint:
 
skunkd0c

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the first being god apparently created was jesus who was a type of angel before he came to earth .. according to the old testament
god then went on to create the bright one, aka lucifer .. and various other angels/heavenly creatures

im not quite sure how many "god years" past between the creation of jesus and lucifer
god then went on to create man and the animals
then he created woman .. his last creation
god created man in his own image

did god also create luicfer in his own image ?

what is strange is that it seems that gods creations got progressively less obedient as time went on,
first was perfection in gods eyes, with jesus, then as time went on many of his creations resulted in the rejection of their creators laws

the freedom of choice gave gods slaves the power to reject him, and for this he is pissed
so he decided to wipe some of us out

it would seem that god gives life, with the condition , worship me or i will punish you
this is not freedom,imo this is being a slave

why did god create the animals with mates, and then go on to create man to be alone ?
did he want adam to experience the pain of loneliness before he created eve from the dirt n a bit or rib ?
since god knew all this would happen, since he knows everything he knew most of his creations would turn against him , why did he bother in the first place, why didn't he stop at jesus ?
god seems extremely narcissistic

i would never dispute weather god is real or not, i do not think it matters
all that matters is i know i wouldn't worship god or be his slave, he seems like a nasty little brat to me lol

peace :)
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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mindphuk said:
As an atheist you really should familiarize yourself better with the religions which you argue against.
The Jewish people claim a national revelation. Read the OT, specifically Deuteronomy. God revealed himself to the Israelites on Mt. Horeb (Sinai). This is one distinguishing characteristic that Judaism has over many other religions which rely on personal revelation. Of course that was one generation, thousands of years ago and no one has any way of verifying the story but your claim is wrong according to scripture itself.
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lol lots of people claim there paticular god has revealed itself , what my point is if theres one god who is so mighty powerfull how come he cant get his creations to even believe he exists , or believing in an entirely different god alltogether , surely he would just come down and adress his people , sure you can claim he has but if he really had then surely it would be known world wide and everybody would all be worshiping and praising him .
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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dankerous said:
Im an atheist,that statement is retarded, no great floods?what about the one about 13000 years ago that split the Uk off of mainland europe after the last ice age,while I disagree with religion and its strangle hold on humanity,a lot of holy texts have got factual basis when not talking bout gods and angels etc, there was a great flood 13000 years ago though,and there was a "eden" look up gobeki tepe, its sited exactly where the bible said it would be and was the first place man gathered to have its first attempt at civilization which we failed at,ruined the land made all the plants and animals scrawny and weak along with ourselves (leaving eden being the transition from hunter gatherers to toiling as farmers) as we had no experience in farming we ruined the land,lost all the vegetation/killed off most of the wild life and turned eden into a desert,.
Please refrain from making Atheists look stupid by making nonsensical posts
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13000 years ago ? lol how old do christians claim the world is ?
noahs flood coverd the enite world with water and killed every human on the planet except noah and his familly , why do we see no evidence in the earths strata of all humans dead on one single layer ?
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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Opiate by Tool:


Choices always were a problem for you.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow,
what you need is someone strong to guide you..
like me, like me, like me, like me

If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.

Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.

My Gods will becomes me.
When he speaks out, he speaks through me.
He has needs like I do.
We both want to rape you.

[x2]
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now
Open my eyes and blind me with your light

If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't you judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.

[x2]
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.

Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow,
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.

My Gods will becomes me.
When he speaks, he speaks through me.
He has needs like I do.
We both want to rape you
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
my point is if theres one god who is so mighty powerfull how come he cant get his creations to even believe he exists
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...because we like to 'play God', we've basically 'told him' that he is not needed. And then, we turn around (when the sht hits the fan) and say "where's this all-powerful God?".
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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eye exaggerate said:
...because we like to 'play God', we've basically 'told him' that he is not needed. And then, we turn around (when the sht hits the fan) and say "where's this all-powerful God?".
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no no no we turn to and question where is god in desperation , because we have been taught from a very early age that this god exists .but have lived all our lives with no evidence of it .'
my catholic friend once tried saying to me ,that i do actually believe in god , because in a time of desperation or need i would say something like 'oh god' or 'god help us', i tried explaining to him that if i ever said those words it was not because i actually believed a god would help me , it was more down to religious doctrination as a child and merely a figure of speech .
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
no no no we turn to and question where is god in desperation , because we have been taught from a very early age that this god exists .but have lived all our lives with no evidence of it .'
my catholic friend once tried saying to me ,that i do actually believe in god , because in a time of desperation or need i would say something like 'oh god' or 'god help us', i tried explaining to him that if i ever said those words it was not because i actually believed a god would help me , it was more down to religious doctrination as a child and merely a figure of speech .
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...that's cool. A figure of speech reminds of 'thought-forms' <--- the idea is found in theosophy.
 
420IAMthatIAM

420IAMthatIAM

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
my second point of 16 0007 is out of all the thousands of religions no god anywhere has ever publicly reveiled itself to us humans , never ever has it even adreesed us all in any public way .surely a public speech or something would be great but nothing at all wich is highly suspicious .[/QUOTE
when I do give public speeches my son, people do and are what I plan them to be .you on the otherhand are not in any of my immediate plans. So don't fret YOU ARE NOT MINE!
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420IAMthatIAM

420IAMthatIAM

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
lol and god created satan , so why would he allow this trickery to go on , satan was created to torture your sorry ass in hell with red hot pitch forks and loads of other kinky shit .whats he doin fuckin around with gods test pieces, whilst they are sitting there test ? shouldnt he be tourtering and crazy shit like that ? whats he doin fuckin wid people before they even failed gods test ? god sort satan out please hes way out of line
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It does talk about dinosaurs actually.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Dislexicmidget2021 said:
Opiate by Tool:


Choices always were a problem for you.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow,
what you need is someone strong to guide you..
like me, like me, like me, like me

If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.

Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.

My Gods will becomes me.
When he speaks out, he speaks through me.
He has needs like I do.
We both want to rape you.

[x2]
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now
Open my eyes and blind me with your light

If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't you judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.

[x2]
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.

Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow,
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.

My Gods will becomes me.
When he speaks, he speaks through me.
He has needs like I do.
We both want to rape you
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Lovin' the Tool, DM...
 
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