LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

AltarNation

AltarNation

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Wow, I heard people mention that a few times but hadn't looked into it yet. That red spike is phenomenal. Why am I looking to buy these straight 660nm bulbs again? LOL.

Hmmmm.
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Just emailed them that very question Psytrance, I will let you know what they say.

So guys, assuming that this bulb is as good as it looks, what would you do for a layout with these bulbs available? I am thinking a combo of Coral Waves and Ultra Growth Waves alone could make an amazing flowering line up... am I missing something though?
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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4 ultra growth waves a 2 reptisun10.0 and a 2 coral wave. best flowering set up i could think of.

i would pay double price to get them early lol! im serious.
 
ValleGrown

ValleGrown

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I am supplementing with 12000k super actinics. For the green yellow and orange. Just 2 of em. And 2 650 roseates and depending on when these ultra waves come out. ..ooooo wheee that would be a fucking badass setup

My setuP


12000k
650nm
actinic
6500k will sub for a blend

Hopefully with the ultra waves but until then some more 650Nm roseates

6500k will sub for a blend
actinic
650nm
12000k
 
jsamuel24

jsamuel24

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polyarcturus said:
i really just want 4 of the bulbs wave point is has got "coming soon"

http://www.wave-point.com/Lighting_folder/LampMain.html

ULTRA GROWTH WAVE
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Wow yes those are awsome. cant wait to start changing out some of my bulbs for those.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to polyarcturus again."

Damn it, everyone who is helpfull to me here is on that message, guess i have to start reading other threads soon just so i can pass out some rep so i can hit you guys again lol
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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ValleGrown said:
You do realize these are not PAR lighting right?
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Yes. I also realize that im growing 3 different grows side by side including 2 different blends of PAR (as ive mentioned in the past 10 pages) and the fixture that is currently running away with the growth side of things is a 2 bulb blend of 3000k bulb and Florasuns.
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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polyarcturus said:
4 ultra growth waves a 2 reptisun10.0 and a 2 coral wave. best flowering set up i could think of.

i would pay double price to get them early lol! im serious.
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Reptisun 10.0's are what, straight UV bulbs? So Coral Wave for IR, Reptisuns for UV, and ultragrowths to fill out just about damn near everything else? hehe
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Reptisuns are 5000k triband fluoros (R-G-B + UVb), but 2x 54w of them will be enough UVb to crisp your fan leaves like HID heat stress... Be warned

Kevin from wavepoint said a few more months for final testing, and yes I want a few to try... But compare them to the FloraSuns SPD, almost identical (wavepoint makes their peaks appear higher, but otherwise they line up petty well)
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
Reptisuns are 5000k triband fluoros (R-G-B + UVb), but 2x 54w of them will be enough UVb to crisp your fan leaves like HID heat stress... Be warned

Kevin from wavepoint said a few more months for final testing, and yes I want a few to try... But compare them to the FloraSuns SPD, almost identical (wavepoint makes their peaks appear higher, but otherwise they line up petty well)
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It looks way more intense... that is some mind trickery they are pulling? I don't quite know how to read these damn charts...
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Again remember guys, if its advertised with just a kelvin temperature (4100k, 5500k etc) theyre more than likely just your run of the mill commercial fluoros that were made to seem bright to the human eye and will be loaded with G/Y/O so as to light up a room well, this applies to 6500k grow/2700-3000k bloom bulbs too. They have a good dose of PAR blue tho (moreso for the 6500k's) which is why they do work decently for growing... otherwise a good chunk of their output will not be utilized unless there is already an abundance of PAR light being created by the rest of your spread to where the G/Y/O can act as a catalyst to "assist" the "uptake, or usability" of the primary PAR colors (B/R). Point is, dont worry about providing G/Y/O, its next to impossible to create a spectrum that won't provide those colors by default (unless ALL your tubes are actinics or RedSuns, in which case youre going about it all wrong lol)
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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No one knows what scale theyre using, so you can't compare the height of the peaks, only the shape of the curves and their location L or R to indicate the nm wavelength...
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
Oh and I like the new avatar AN !
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Thanks man... I found it on Google, haha. I looked it up and it apparently was a lucid dreaming conference in Melbourne Australia back in 96! Kind of a trippy coincidence, hah. I still haven't figured out what the other AltarNation I jacked my logo from actually is:

http://www.altarnation.net/

no idea, lol.

I coined the phrase on my own, then I just started searching google for logos, lol. Luckily someone else out there already thought of the same clever play on words and made cool logos out of it, hahaha.
 
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