LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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falcon223

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I don't play with electricity. I was almost blinded doing that. If are vegging thous bulbs might work. We like to see others experiment, and learn what we can. So you can use what ever bulbs you think will work. I have a mix of bulbs and try different ones from time to time.

I have to say I did not think the over drive was going to work. It sounded to simple, and if it was easy to do we would all be doing it.
Remember there are a lot of electricians that are growing, and they always say to be safe.
I was going to get another 8 bulb fixture, but cant come up with the funds right now. So I am going to supplement my T5s with a CMH.
I am in so much pain right now, I have to clean out my body for a DT. I am on opiates, and they don't work for me any more.
The weed is best for my pain, but it also makes me laze. No simple cure. Man I heart, and have a tun of shit to do today.

I want everyone to have a safe and fun Easter. I take my Christianity series. God bless all of you. Even you atheist?
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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athiest me? no.... at least not exactly. any ways blinding dont know what you where doing but thats sucks. my funds are straight thats the only reason i can play around, i got plenty of back up supplies.

you are right overdriving isnt as simple as it sounds, when i get some concrete results i will let you guy know. trust me im safe. been electrocuted too many times. actually its too the point i dont really mind a mild shock, and for some reason every time i get out of the car i get shocked real bad nowadays.

as for the opiate withdrawl well once its over its over man. if you can get off the shit to where your body is no longer dependent that's the hardest part. my recommendation if you are strong(physically as well as mentally) is to sweat it out. meaning get outside with some water and some balanced food high in fiber chipotle or some sandwiches and excercise like a mother fucker, staying motion helps alot. i know the weed makes you lazy but you got to fight it get you blood pumping fight your bodys urge to simulate the opiate feeling, keep you adrenaline and testosterone up and you will feel better sooner.
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Yeah yeah! GET IT GET IT! hyroot those look amazing! Close up bud shots plz? ;)

Those are so fat they put most of my colas to shame... I got one or two that size and the rest are skinny ninnies... is that 57 days from 12/12 flip or from flowers first developing or what?

Also, genetics?
 
hyroot

hyroot

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4 weeks veg, 57 days from12/12 flip to flower. Letting them go 63 days. Bubba kush (left side), soma rock bud ( right side). More pics later. Got to wait til they wake up to take more.
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Wow man, that blows my grow right out of the water. I don't know if it's my bagseed genetics or what, but that is way ahead of mine.
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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smokeymarine said:
How is it true that all the light is comming from more surface area? A 4 foot T5 is something like 5k lumens, so 12 is 60k, but that is spread over about 8 sq ft. If a plant is centered under the lights, 3" from the light then the light it is getting from the far end of the tube (which is more than 24" away) 1/32 as intense as the light directly overhead. I don't see how that plant could be getting as much light from the 12 tube 650W T5 light fixture (~60k lumens) as it would get from a 600W HPS light (~90k lumens). Does that make sense or is my brain not functioning properly?
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This was a good comment/question Professuer should address.
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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hyroot said:
4 weeks veg, 57 days from12/12 flip to flower. Letting them go 63 days. Bubba kush (left side), soma rock bud ( right side). More pics later. Got to wait til they wake up to take more.
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Lookin bomb brother. I am also growing a Bubba Kush pre 98 Katsu under mine. im only 25 days but lookin forward to huge buds like yours soon. Hit my journal for pics.
 
48martin

48martin

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Lookin bomb brother. I am also growing a Bubba Kush pre 98 Katsu under mine. im only 25 days but lookin forward to huge buds like yours soon. Hit my journal for pics.
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The pre98 works great under the T5's. ran that last year with just using 6500-veg and 3000-F and had great results. Now with everyones spectrum getting dialed in, everyone is going to be very happy.

I love the smell of P98 in the morning....
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kpmarine

kpmarine

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Lucius Vorenus said:
This was a good comment/question Professuer should address.
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The same question applies to an HID and any other spot in the room. It has a single point of light and has to be much higher up making it even farther away from almost any point than the T5 can be. The inverse square law is especially vicious on HID's because they only have one point of light emission, as opposed to a whole tube. So the best light it can get is in a 1sq.ft. area. Anything beyond that and the inverse square law detracts from it's baseline measurements. So everything 2 feet away is getting ~45k lumens. So that should give you an idea of the power curve. Also, then there's the heat/wasted spectrum issue, plus all the extra A/C and fans.

Also, T5 output is measure at 1' away as far as I know, so a light at 3" is almost 2times brighter than what the bulb tells you. Therefore, while it is 1/32 as intense at 3" as opposed to 24"; it is only half of the bulb's intensity at 24" when related to the fact that T5 output is rated at 12". So at 3" away, that T5 fixture smokeymarine used as an example is easily over 100k lumens. So, I'm pretty sure that the ~30k lumen loss from the other end of the bulb is somewhat buffered. Plus, being 3" away from your canopy gets ALOT more light to your lower buds, seeing as they get a baseline 8" closer to them than any HID can (At least without dropping another T5 fixture's worth of cooltubes and A/C.). Really, this is just the basic idea. There'd be alot of incremental math if tried to break it down as best I could; going off the distances of each of the 12 bulbs, lumens per inch of each bulb relative to location of this point, and probably something I'm overlooking. This should be enough to give you the idea though. You can work from there if you wish. Also, don't forget that HID bulbs are in theory much less generally efficient than our T5 setups. Heat removal, alot of inefficient spectrum use, and distance being paramount to this situation.
 
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falcon223

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Pet are those all T5 grown?? Because those are the biggest plants I have seen under T5.

Polyarctus, I sweat all day long at work. And I really want to get of the opiates. I am pushing 60. But I can still work circles around the young guys. I am ex Military, and have worked hard all my life.


T5s work, just wont blow HID out the water. But the buds look so much frostier and good.
I am beginning to worry about the professor, no word in so time now.?
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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falcon223 said:
Pet are those all T5 grown?? Because those are the biggest plants I have seen under T5.

Polyarctus, I sweat all day long at work. And I really want to get of the opiates. I am pushing 60. But I can still work circles around the young guys. I am ex Military, and have worked hard all my life.


T5s work, just wont blow HID out the water. But the buds look so much frostier and good.
I am beginning to worry about the professor, no word in so time now.?
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Wonder if maybe that bust from months back wasn't as small of a deal as he initially thought. Not trying to start a bunch of speculation or anything. Could really be anything.
 
ValleGrown

ValleGrown

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The only thing that i am totally stoked for is a Scrog with these lights. Get as close to quantity while still achieving quality
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

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polyarcturus said:
well now i get to ask whats my best 6 bulb set up here are my bulbs choices that are coming with the light along with a couple i already have.

x2 10000k aquasun uvl, x2 10000k coralife, x2 420nm truelumen, x2 460 truelumen, x1 coralife atinic, 3000k philips
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cmon guys help me pick six bulbs im thinking x4 1000k x1 420 atinic x1 460 atinic. just got my replacement fixture much nicer than the other one i had this one has 2 4in comp fans built in. it pretty sweet. im surprised by how lightweight these things are. im just happy to have my replacement and bulbs. i wasreally pissed yesterday.
oh well you live, you learn


post some pics here in a sec
 
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