The Gospels

[mudminer]

Technically the common brotherly love is philadelphia. Agape is unconditional heart-love. The remaining sort of love was served by the word eros. cn

thanx for the correction cn. been quite a while since Ive been "in the books". obviously memory aint what it used to be.

 

[Kite High]

Any smart minded man may take note that only about 98 percent of RIU is full of brainwashed NWO zombies, by products of their MTVs and their JackAss movie shows. Faith, it is NOT something that you buy or sell. If you have faith in the Devil and death, then you or anyone will burn someday. It is simple. Be blind, be with the Devil. Ill pray for the dudes that don't want to believe that faith is real. Stop referring to Santa Clause and The Easterbunny, that is childish simpleton behavior and I don't give two shits about those sort of comments. tyler durden and I know what faith is. I also know a lot of people are riding the devil's dick to hell, but you all are not there yet. There is still time to snap out of your mockery of faith and be had a fulfilling life without STDs and Welfare and other maladies of the fallen man. Choose a side. The side of dumbassery is actually with the devil. Don't believe all those films that show the Devil as a personification that is to be desired for one's own lifestyle. Grow up now, spiritually anyway. You don't need a magic coloring book to guide your silly ass to salvation, so don't make me LOL

ummm you got Jesus jizz on your face...jus sayin

 

[Kite High]

Im a Christian and I can tell you those gospels are reliable.

I am so sorry...I'll pray for you

 

[Kite High]

Technically he was responding to another person whom is attacking Christianity.
I agape brother CO and hope that you and others might see the light before its too late.

and these words prove your chosen moniker was well thought out...

 

[Kite High]

The word fits and I use it now and then instead of luv when refering to christian brothers and sisters. We are called to love one another and society today has managed to change the meaning of words in many cases.
If I was to tell you I love you, you or someone listening might think I love you in a I wanna jump your bones kinda way, but when I say Agape you know exactly what sort of love I am talking about.
And another reason is love has been on my mind the past week. I found a dog and took her in and I already love her. She is a great dog.

Mind if I ask you a question?
What have Christians done to you or your loved ones that has caused you to advocate against them in a pot forum?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
http://www.ftarchives.net/foote/crimes/c9.htm
anymore atrocities done in the name of your belief needed for YOU to SEE the LIGHT?

Your being christian makes AGAPE' love IMPOSSIBLE for you if you are truly a believer...

New International Version (©1984)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

jus sayin

 

[mudminer]

@ eye exagerate: yeah. i think i get that. i let my reaction to a couple real life bad days carry over onto the boards, and so, here ive been explaining my actions. i wont apologize for those reactions though. not considering the completely over the top conduct that inspired them in the first place. sometimes shit just hits ya wrong. or just right, however your looking at it at the time. theres no need for me to lie about it. i really just didnt feel like letting those actions go unchecked. im not saying it was my place, but it is what it is. i do apologize to the rest of you guys if not letting go caused more of a disruption than leaving it alone. wether im in the growing boards or here, im here to learn just because i enjoy learning. having that interrupted by such blatant....well, im gonna assume you get it. all the best to ya.

 

[boneheadbob]

I dont usually go around saying agape or love. But my new puppy and spring being in the air have filled me with love. I wanted to show CO that there are others out here here feel as he does.

The Christian bashing seems far too obssesive in many of you. Your soul will rot from filling it with hate all the time. Especially when you have no good reason for your hate.

Something people did hundreds and thousands of years ago is not a good reason. It is an excuse.

 

[boneheadbob]

Mudminer

Nice work however something shorter and easier to read would be more helpful.

If I understand you right, you dont like the way Christians conduct themselves, especially when they try to tell others about Jesus? More especially so when you know they are hypocrites who do not practice what they preach?

 

[mudminer]

Yeah. I guess when I really dont care about what/who Im addressing my composition reflects it. Ahh well, it is what it is. Im typing really slow this time. Hope your finding it easier to understand. Is the brevity acceptable?

 

[Zaehet Strife]

I dont usually go around saying agape or love. But my new puppy and spring being in the air have filled me with love. I wanted to show CO that there are others out here here feel as he does.

The Christian bashing seems far too obssesive in many of you. Your soul will rot from filling it with hate all the time. Especially when you have no good reason for your hate.

Something people did hundreds and thousands of years ago is not a good reason. It is an excuse.

-i think i'll let my sig answer in reply to this post...

 

[cannabineer]

thanx for the correction cn. been quite a while since Ive been "in the books". obviously memory ain't what it used to be.

No worries mudminer. It's always somewhat refreshing to see a good-natured response in this subforum. cn

 

[Kite High]

-i think i'll let my sig answer in reply to this post...

Bravo...perfect!!

 

[Winter Woman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
http://www.ftarchives.net/foote/crimes/c9.htm
anymore atrocities done in the name of your belief needed for YOU to SEE the LIGHT?

Your being christian makes AGAPE' love IMPOSSIBLE for you if you are truly a believer...

New International Version (©1984)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

jus sayin

Luke 14:25-35 Is about Christ teaching Discipleship.

The essence of discipleship is giving first place to God. To hate one's family and even one's life is rhetorical. It refers to desiring something less then something else. This was especially appropriate in Jesus' time, since a decision to follow Jesus could mean rejection from family and persecution to the point of death. Those that feared family disapproval or persecution would not come to Jesus.

Luke 14:27 is about disciples experiening rejection.

The words you speak of is not for all people. It was meant for the disciples of that time sort of a warning of what maybe to come.
You sir, took the passages out of context.

 

[tyler.durden]

Luke 14:25-35 Is about Christ teaching Discipleship.

The essence of discipleship is giving first place to God. To hate one's family and even one's life is rhetorical. It refers to desiring something less then something else. This was especially appropriate in Jesus' time, since a decision to follow Jesus could mean rejection from family and persecution to the point of death. Those that feared family disapproval or persecution would not come to Jesus.

Luke 14:27 is about disciples experiening rejection.

The words you speak of is not for all people. It was meant for the disciples of that time sort of a warning of what maybe to come.
You sir, took the passages out of context.

You may want to write a companion book to the bible, 'How to read the bible the way god meant it: Which parts to take literally, and which are metaphorical/rhetorical'. Without such a book, us mortals without divine inspiration have no reliable guide as to how it should be interpreted. Many theologians disagree as to which parts are meant literally, strange that they are differently divinely inspired. This is a big part of the problem, what did god really mean? To which passages should we really kill, hate and destroy, and in which passages was he just kidding or using metaphor? The current method seems to be, 'Well, that's a particularly nasty passage. I don't want god to be that way, let's go ahead and take that part as metaphor. I like these passages, god must have actually meant this...' What to do, what to do...

 

[Winter Woman]

You may want to write a companion book to the bible, 'How to read the bible the way god meant it: Which parts to take literally, and which are metaphorical/rhetorical'. Without such a book, us mortals without divine inspiration have no reliable guide as to how it should be interpreted. Many theologians disagree as to which parts are meant literally, strange that they are differently divinely inspired. This is a big part of the problem, what did god really mean? To which passages should we really kill, hate and destroy, and in which passages was he just kidding or using metaphor? The current method seems to be, 'Well, that's a particularly nasty passage. I don't want god to be that way, let's go ahead and take that part as metaphor. I like these passages, god must have actually meant this...' What to do, what to do...

In that passage he was talking directly to disciples not the common man. If you know so much you should have known that. Do you really think anyone would want you to hate your parents?

Theologians do not, in general, disagree about this passage. Nice try.

As for interpretation try Aramaic. They DO have books for translation.

 

[mindphuk]

Technically he was responding to another person whom is attacking Christianity.
I agape brother CO and hope that you and others might see the light before its too late.

Your standard for deciding what is an "attack" needs some work. The post that CO responded to was word for word what you hear from many Xians themselves. You chose to label it an attack....why?

 

[mindphuk]

In that passage he was talking directly to disciples not the common man. If you know so much you should have known that. Do you really think anyone would want you to hate your parents?

Theologians do not, in general, disagree about this passage. Nice try.

As for interpretation try Aramaic. They DO have books for translation.

I see, so that was not for the 'common man.' Who is that? Jesus was speaking of a coming apocalypse the only way out was to become his disciple and follow him. So yes, he wasn't talking to everyone, just those that wanted to survive. Strange that you would comment that a passage that explains how to become a disciple of Jesus is not meant for all of these people that label themselves as Xians, disciples of Christ.

 

[Kite High]

In that passage he was talking directly to disciples not the common man. If you know so much you should have known that. Do you really think anyone would want you to hate your parents?

Theologians do not, in general, disagree about this passage. Nice try.

As for interpretation try Aramaic. They DO have books for translation.

lol...YOU need to do the PROPER research and obtain THE facts then...as it was NOT reduced from Aramaic as only the GREEK texts were available for transcription...and the greek word used in the greek transcripts meant literally "to despise as if to wish to destroy"...further proof of the erroneous nature of the passage is that in all of english literature the word hate, ONLY IN THIS PASSAGE AND NO WHERE ELSE, means to love less....POPPYCOCK...a definition for only 1 particular writing? The Christiandom has alot of control eh? Well it is quite obvious they control YOU and YOUR mind...Theologians BAH... consult a LINGUIST ...there you will find truth...not from purveyors of bullshit DOGMA

 

[Winter Woman]

I see, so that was not for the 'common man.' Who is that? Jesus was speaking of a coming apocalypse the only way out was to become his disciple and follow him. So yes, he wasn't talking to everyone, just those that wanted to survive. Strange that you would comment that a passage that explains how to become a disciple of Jesus is not meant for all of these people that label themselves as Xians, disciples of Christ.

The first 2 chapters of Luke emphasize the Old Testament and a promise of a Messiah.

3:1 to somewhere around 4:14 demonstrates Jesus as the Messiah and something about his resisting evil.

4:14 or there abouts to 9:50 is about introducing Jesus' power and teachings.

9:51-19:44 about the growing rift between Jesus and the Jewish leadership.

Chapter 9 thru 13 are more about the rift.

Chapters 14 -19 attention is given to the Jesus' introduction of the disciples. The part you reference.

The last part is about the trial of Jesus, the death of Jesus, and the Resurrection. He gave the disciples the task of spreading the word and the power to do it.

The message in Luke 14-19 is written to the disciples about the risks they will be taking if they follow. The rest is written for all and all of Luke is meant to be read by everyone.

Luke's Gospel is centered on the God's plan to provide Salvation to the world. The follow thru is in the Books of Acts.


Luke wrote about was what occurred between Jesus, the Power structure, and his disciples. The part you point to is a warning to his disciples that they may pay for following him.

The apocalypse you speak of is the Fall of Jerusalem not just the Temple as predicted by Jesus. Though there is no talk about the actual fall in Luke or Acts.

You do like to twist words.

Edit: You are right I had forgotten that Luke was a Greek.

 

[1Shot1Kill]

Any smart minded man may take note that only about 98 percent of RIU is full of brainwashed NWO zombies, by products of their MTVs and their JackAss movie shows. Faith, it is NOT something that you buy or sell. If you have faith in the Devil and death, then you or anyone will burn someday. It is simple. Be blind, be with the Devil. Ill pray for the dudes that don't want to believe that faith is real. Stop referring to Santa Clause and The Easterbunny, that is childish simpleton behavior and I don't give two shits about those sort of comments. tyler durden and I know what faith is. I also know a lot of people are riding the devil's dick to hell, but you all are not there yet. There is still time to snap out of your mockery of faith and be had a fulfilling life without STDs and Welfare and other maladies of the fallen man. Choose a side. The side of dumbassery is actually with the devil. Don't believe all those films that show the Devil as a personification that is to be desired for one's own lifestyle. Grow up now, spiritually anyway. You don't need a magic coloring book to guide your silly ass to salvation, so don't make me LOL

I have faith. People have no idea how real it is. I like how people are always ragging on Christians saying its not real but they say/know nothing about wiccans or luciferians. You cant believe in Satan without believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh.