Confirmed: Obama's Birth Certificate Not Authentic 2012

[kelly4]

u watch too much tv u douche.

If you mean 3 hours a week, than yes, I watch waaaay too much tv. That must be ALL that you do though, based upon your writing style and deep knowledge of whats bieng discussed.

 

[kelly4]

Yes the economy is recovering because the stimulus package didn't work. What a moron.

First you tell me that the stimulus was a good thing. Now you are saying it didn't work. Wait...........are you saying that like the rest of the world, OBAMA knew the stimulus package would fail? But, OBAMA was so smart that he knew that by it failing our economy would eventually turn around? What a brilliant man! Maybe if he were to pass 8 or 10 more of these failed packages we will be where we started. Fuck it, lets pass 100 more stimulus packages, we'll stimulate our way right out of debt! And you call me a moron? At least you seem to be a happy idiot!

 

[NoDrama]

Obama has accomplished a whole bunch of stuff, too bad none of it really helps the average person.

Improved Foreign Relations and American Status Abroad

Americans do not have an improved status abroad, we are considered rude and ego maniacal almost universally now. When I go out of country I wear a Canadian lapel pin so people will treat me well. Most of the world likes Canadians because they mostly keep to themselves and don't ruin the world for its inhabitants.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nice paste job. Stimulous package? You are bragging about the stimulous package? HAHAHA! You are an idiot in the highest degree! Stimulous packages have been tried many times, by multiple countries, and never worked once! One word for you......FORD! The auto company that didn't take the money was the first company to turn things around. WOW, what do you know, stimulous money wasn't needed. It's not cool to do it yourself though, lets bring in the government. That whole article (that you stole without proper writing credit given), is a list of mostly bad ideas. Thank you for proving my point! Carne, when I say Obama hasn't done things for America, I mean GOOD THINGS!

so, what did you do with all the tax breaks in the "stimulous"? i assume you sent the checks right back, right?

 

[NoDrama]

so, what did you do with all the tax breaks in the "stimulous"? i assume you sent the checks right back, right?

Yes, what did you do with that extra $1 a week? Buy an extra gallon of gas every month? Hookers and blow? A new palatial mansion?

 

[UncleBuck]

Accomplishments? Those are not accomplishments. They sound good in theory(or not) when kool-aid drinkers like yourself spew them out to unimformed idiots. But, put them plans in place and they fail. Look up every stimulus package that has ever been tried, they don't work, not one, EVER. According to Carne though this one is working. You must be saying OBAMA can do the impossible just by him saying it will work. You can't tax and spend your way out of a recession. Maybe that's why this one worked, right Carne? Obama didn't tax first, he just spent! Let's borrow and spend our way out of the recession. OBAMA said it will work so it must, right? I bet you would jump off a bridge if OBAMA told you that you can fly!A Kool-Aid drinking sheep is all that you are.

i can go take pictures of people at work thanks to the stimulus right now if you want. must be because it didn't work.

by the way, calm down, dude. you are the one having a gay homo fit, not carne.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes, what did you do with that extra $1 a week? Buy an extra gallon of gas every month? Hookers and blow? A new palatial mansion?

$52?

no, try more like a couple thousand altogether.

but whether it was $52 or $1,000, do you think you can spend that money better, or do you think the government would spend that money better?

i guess tax breaks are only good when republicans pass them.

 

[kelly4]

Obama has accomplished a whole bunch of stuff, too bad none of it really helps the average person.

Improved Foreign Relations and American Status Abroad

Americans do not have an improved status abroad, we are considered rude and ego maniacal almost universally now. When I go out of country I wear a Canadian lapel pin so people will treat me well. Most of the world likes Canadians because they mostly keep to themselves and don't ruin the world for its inhabitants.

It's bad when you have to impersonate a canuck! I spent my first 40 years living in Minnesota and have been to Canada many times for multiple reasons(mostly fishing). I love Canada except for one thing.......A lot of Canadians don't like Americans! Behind my back I have heard the words "fuckin American" many times. Not everywhere, and not everyone, but the underlying feeling is sometimes there. It doesn't matter where you go worldwide the anti American sentiment is there. They will all put up with Americans as long as we keep spending money on vacation there though.

 

[kelly4]

so, what did you do with all the tax breaks in the "stimulous"? i assume you sent the checks right back, right?

First of all, you assume that everyone is eligible for these alleged tax breaks. Second, If somebody lowered taxes on 3 things but raised taxes on 12 things, you would preach to me about how he lowered taxes! Yes he did lower some taxes......I guess. Buck, why doesn't North Korea just create a giant stimulus package? Why doesn't every 3rd world country just "stimulize" itself, then everyone in the world will have money. NO, every country can do that plan but do it bigger, then everyone will be rich! YAAAAAHHH!!

 

[abandonconflict]

I spent my first 40 years living in Minnesota and have been to Canada many times for multiple reasons(mostly fishing). I love Canada except for one thing.......A lot of Canadians don't like Americans! Behind my back I have heard the words "fuckin American" many times. Not everywhere, and not everyone, but the underlying feeling is sometimes there. It doesn't matter where you go worldwide the anti American sentiment is there. They will all put up with Americans as long as we keep spending money on vacation there though.

You must be the typical American when you travel, treating people like they should be grateful that your royal ass is there spending dollars into their economy. Sounds to me like you spent your first 40 years being indoctrinated into a narrow world view. Things have changed. You aren't as cool as you used to be.

 

[kelly4]

i can go take pictures of people at work thanks to the stimulus right now if you want. must be because it didn't work.

by the way, calm down, dude. you are the one having a gay homo fit, not carne.

Why, did the stimuless get you a job taking pictures of people who work?(Grammar Nazi) Carne said it didn't work too. I didn't say that it didn't create some jobs, I said that it didn't work. How much stimulus money per job did it cost? I know you know. Buck, you should run for WORLD LEADER on this premise: A Stimuless For Every Country! Every country can borrow money, create jobs that aren't needed(or they would already exist), and then tax it at 98.......you know where this is going, and it's NOT good!

 

[UncleBuck]

Why, did the stimuless get you a job taking pictures of people who work?(Grammar Nazi) Carne said it didn't work too. I didn't say that it didn't create some jobs, I said that it didn't work. How much stimulus money per job did it cost? I know you know. Buck, you should run for WORLD LEADER on this premise: A Stimuless For Every Country! Every country can borrow money, create jobs that aren't needed(or they would already exist), and then tax it at 98.......you know where this is going, and it's NOT good!

you forget that not only does the stimulus create many jobs building a bridge or widening a highway, but that you also get a bridge or a widened highway out of it.

so for the next 20 years, not only will i sit in traffic less, idle less, waste less gas and time, but so will all the goods and services that travel down that same highway. they would just pass on the cost of sitting and idling and wasting gas onto the consumer.

i suppose that is yet more evidence of the stimulus not working, along with the jobs created and saved and massive tax breaks given. the only way you wouldn't qualify for those tax breaks is if you did not work AND did not collect unemployment, by the way. so maybe you are just a bum with his thumb up his arse in his momma's basement. wouldn't surprise me based on your grasp of the ARRA.

 

[zambonic]

The stimulas created jobs UB @ $278,000.00 per. So if that is what you want to call sucessful... ok

 

[UncleBuck]

The stimulas created jobs UB @ $278,000.00 per. So if that is what you want to call sucessful... ok

does that factor in that nearly half of the stimulus was tax breaks?

suppose that number is accurate though. many of the jobs created by the stimulus are still out there working, i see them every day when i take the highway, i saw many of them driving through california on the I-5 recently, i saw them when i was last in texas and arizona and new mexico, so they are still going on after 2+ years.

how much do you think it costs to hire a cnstruction worker for 2+ years? probably close to $150k-$200k if they are worth their salt, don't forget all the project managers and others higher-ups who are not doing the grunt work.

then, to top it all off, you get an improved infrastructure that makes it easier for goods, services, consumers, travelers, tourists, and the like to move while wasting less of a finite resource (gasoline) and causing less pollution. not only do you get the jobs, you get the infrastructure AND the positive externalities of the infrastructure.

not sure why people don't get this, it's pretty basic econ 101 kinda stuff.

 

[zambonic]

Yea and I saw the stimulus in action in my part of the world. They tore up part of rt. 30 and re did that section. That was great!! The problem that part of rt. 30 was just redone two years earlier. Oh and we can not forget the sign... yes the sign that told us that this was being funded by the stimulus. Think of all the sign makers we put to work. Face the facts it was a waste of taxpayers money!! So how is that a tax break again?

 

[UncleBuck]

The stimulas created jobs UB @ $278,000.00 per. So if that is what you want to call sucessful... ok

should also mention that those jobs include working with materials, purchased from other businesses.

all those asphalt, gravel, culverts, drainage pipes, etc...it ain't free. it comes from other businesses. those other businesses see increased demand, which is exactly the problem with the economy: lack of aggregate demand. aggregate demand is what creates jobs, not "rich people".

the workers don't widen highways and build bridges with their bare hands and pixie dust, they do it with materials purchased from other companies.

the fact that people like you not only don't understand this, but go so far as to use it as a trump card is a frightening indictment of your understanding of very basic economic principles.

 

[kelly4]

You must be the typical American when you travel, treating people like they should be grateful that your royal ass is there spending dollars into their economy. Sounds to me like you spent your first 40 years being indoctrinated into a narrow world view. Things have changed. You aren't as cool as you used to be.

Since you skipped the part of asking, I will tell you. The people saying stuff were not people we were dealing with or talking to. They were just random people that heard we were from America. You are the stereo typical American- making assumptions with little info. and then talking shit when you don't have any idea what you are talking about. And yes, there are areas of Canada that should feel grateful that Americans choose to spend their money there! No different than ski resorts should feel grateful when Europeans come and ski here.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yea and I saw the stimulus in action in my part of the world. They tore up part of rt. 30 and re did that section. That was great!! The problem that part of rt. 30 was just redone two years earlier. Oh and we can not forget the sign... yes the sign that told us that this was being funded by the stimulus. Think of all the sign makers we put to work. Face the facts it was a waste of taxpayers money!! So how is that a tax break again?

how is it a tax break that you get to keep more of your money? i don't know, you tell me. 40% or more of the stimulus was tax breaks though.

when people get to keep more of their own money, they usually spend it. when more people spend their money, that creates aggregate demand, and aggregate demand is what causes job growth, nothing else.

no one hires anyone just because they have the money to do so. businesses are sitting on trillions, so why don't they hire? oh, that's right...no demand.

go turn on fox news now to figure out your next talking point, genius.

 

[kelly4]

Please, do not come spend your mighty dollars in Mexico. Please. I left your country because of dickheads like you.

Good, one less vote for socialism.

 

[UncleBuck]

Good, one less vote for socialism.

2008 called, it wants its smear campaign back.