ismokealotofpot
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if you want to chat about it go to the thread below CNs post. I don't want to destroy the mans thread.
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
There's another in Houston... I went on haj to see it in '03. I believe the Smithsonian has a third, not currently on display. i remember reading about extensive, expensive restoration being done on that one. cn
OnlyDopesSmokeDope
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fail. i don't mean to troll. its just i don't believe aliens have been to this planet. just like i don't believe in any god or ghosts or any crap like that. i think stupid people see something they can't explain and instead of doing research and coming to a logical conclusion they pin it on a easy target. it was aliens, it was god...
don't get me wrong, i don't think this is the only planet with life on it, be it single cell or sentient life. why i don't think they have been to this planet is the numbers. the universe has been aroud for what? 13 billion years? now a billion is an astronomical number. if you started counting the second you were born and done nothing but count your whole life, no eating or sleeping, you wouldn't reach a billion. so what are the chances of there being life that is advanced enouth to get here right now at this point in time. the nearest solar system that we think could sustain life is so far away, traverling at 5,000 miles a second it would take you 300 years to reach it. to say aliens have been to this planet once is one thing but saying they have been here many times is just crazy. i'm not smart, most of what i based my opinion on is taken from documentaries i've seen over the years and my memory isn't to good so if some of what i said isn't quite right, i'm sorry.
Brick Top
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Whenever someone claims to have been abducted or seen aliens it almost always tends to be Zeke and Bubba who were out in the swamp tending ta' their still.
If aliens are so intelligent and visit our planet why don't they pay a visit to Stephen Hawking or someone who might have some chance of being able to communicate at least slightly up to their level?
I won't comment on God, but until some point early in 1995 I would have said the idea of ghosts or demons or whatever was total crap.
But after the last 17-years of various totally inexplicable things occurring in my home, starting roughly one year after my mother died in my home, I now believe that something, I don't know what, but something like ghosts or demons or whatever do exist.
To many things have occurred here for me to be able to continue to deny that 'something' other than, or beyond, what people normally accept exists does in fact exist.
Anyone can very easily deny such things, until they experience such things on a somewhat regular basis over many years. Then you tend to become if not a believer, at least someone who will very readily accept the possibility.
OnlyDopesSmokeDope
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with ghosts again its the numbers for me. billions of people have died, if there were ghosts they would be everywhere. i'm not calling you a liar, just i have to see with my own eyes to believe.
Brick Top
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Your position relies on the assumption that everyone who died would remain behind as a ghost rather than, as some believe, only those with some unfinished business or a reason or a cause end up remaining behind as a ghost.
And I also did say ghost or demons. I would not swear to what or which could be hanging around here.
I can understand your position of; "i'm not calling you a liar, just i have to see with my own eyes to believe." I said the same thing until I was roughly 40-years old and then began to experience the inexplicable in my own home and have it continue now for 18-years.
That sort of thing doesn't happen to most. But to those it does happen to, they are forced to accept that there is more than the eye normally sees and the mind normally is willing and capable of accepting.
Two friends of mine, longtime friends, will no longer visit me after the scares they had here. After being horrified one of them slept in his pickup truck in my driveway because he would not spend the night in my house. He left the next day as quickly as he could load up his things and go.
In neither case did I tell either of them ahead of time about my house, so it was not like a seed was planted in their minds that caused their imaginations to run wild. They just experienced things they were not capable of dealing with, things that were outside the limits of their beliefs.
Myself, I enjoy the things that occur here. I find myself wondering what will happen next. If it will be something new or one of the things that have happened many times and are almost common occurrences. If something doesn't happen for a while I am actually disappointed and hope it will not be long before the next thing happens.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Competition in pursuit of a market causes advancement. So far, the viable market in space has been emplacement of communication satellites, and the chemical-launcher technology does not have much room for improvement. I mean, the Russians are using an adaptation of the design that first reached orbit as their (and now our) single active man-rated space launcher! cn
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
~can't resist~ That's the spirit. cn
Doer
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All I can say to the conspiracy folks of all ilk, is Who Cares?
And it is a lot less scary to believe that some group planned this and tried to make us believe a falsehood, than to believe it really happened.
The CIA did it. Cool, we are in control and have something to bitch about.
A vicious, successful attack against our economy. Too Scary! See part A.
We send volunteers to the moon on what could have easily been a disaster for them and the Cold War. Too Scary? Figure out the fake.
Then the movement gathers the ninnies. It self perpetuates.
It's a primal notion of control against the things that go bump in the night. Reality or Religion. It's the kick of being right when everyone else is wrong. A cult. Ego.
And it is a lot less scary to believe that some group planned this and tried to make us believe a falsehood, than to believe it really happened.
The CIA did it. Cool, we are in control and have something to bitch about.
A vicious, successful attack against our economy. Too Scary! See part A.
We send volunteers to the moon on what could have easily been a disaster for them and the Cold War. Too Scary? Figure out the fake.
Then the movement gathers the ninnies. It self perpetuates.
It's a primal notion of control against the things that go bump in the night. Reality or Religion. It's the kick of being right when everyone else is wrong. A cult. Ego.
Doer
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I firmly believe there are secret accords between govts. And I think we are in an effort with Russia, since Clinton, to allow China to catch up and become spacefaring, at the same pace as India. The ticket seems to be a module for the ISS. When we have, along with Europe, 5 Gross Domestic Productions into it, then we will be ready to have moon bases, etc. Notice how quickly Obama ruled out the moon and suggested straight to Mars. He's know that can't happen without the Lunar practice.
Doer
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maybe not....I like this idea. Sit on the moon, in comfort and tel-operate mining equipment on a captured asteroid. They got the right stuff involved, it looks like.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303513404577356190967904210.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303513404577356190967904210.html
researchkitty
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This is a little out of my league, I'm not too familiar with asteroid composition, but since everything is star dust, what would we mine on an asteroid that isnt already on our moon?
Doer
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I'd say because there are no treaties on asteroid exploration. Isn't the moon part of the Sol System Nature Preserve? 
We have treaties of No Ownership or something. You can still by a Lunar tract, ie, a worthless piece of paper, today.
Who knows about later?
For asteroids also the mineral content can be fairly pure, like a chuck of Nickel or Iron, or Gold. Carbonates, gases,
glasses, diamonds? Who knows? The tel-presence lag problem may be moot with self directed robotics.
Of course, the near Earth asteroids may be slim pickings. It's a whole new era of Solar Prospecting.
We have treaties of No Ownership or something. You can still by a Lunar tract, ie, a worthless piece of paper, today. Who knows about later?
For asteroids also the mineral content can be fairly pure, like a chuck of Nickel or Iron, or Gold. Carbonates, gases,
glasses, diamonds? Who knows? The tel-presence lag problem may be moot with self directed robotics.
Of course, the near Earth asteroids may be slim pickings. It's a whole new era of Solar Prospecting.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The moon is almost all basalt, which is a very boring rock.
The asteroids have the elements that are uncommon on our surface and the Moon's, notably heavies like rhenium, iridium, gold, uranium, thorium ... and extra lights like helium-3.
The asteroids also have carbon compounds which the Moon entirely lacks. But in the longest term, the real payoff will be in the Kuiper belt where there's lots and lots of CHNO, the basic stuff of life. cn
hmmmmm.....
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are you people saying you wouldn't like to sit on the moon and smoke a spliff?? obviously a keen inventor would have to come up with a way of lighting the spliff or maybe make a mini spliif suit with auto lighter which you can just connect streight to the suit
Doer
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I think coughing into your faceplate would be a drag. But, as I read in Si-Fi, how about finding or making a large underground chamber? Fill it with air to a good pressure. Then using self powered ornothopters instead of hang gliders fly around in there smoking during human powered flight on the Moon.
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