Aliens

[Zaehet Strife]

You are absolutely right, i cannot read your mind, i cannot experience that which you have experienced. But i know, from my experiences, and from stories of countless others... that when we attempt to give meaning to any experience we have, regardless of it being spiritual or not, it is made into what we want it to be, rather than staying exactly what it is... an experience.

(just consumed 3.5 grams of cracker dry cubensis mushrooms, i love tripping alone... almost as much as i love tripping with friends)

 

[Heisenberg]

Lol their you go again Heisenberg, taking what I say, processing it through your computer-like brain then present it to me like an automated android waiting for another subject to pass by that you can dissect and prove false.

Which subject did I attempt to prove false? I was speaking of methodology. You may be getting your posts confused again. Did I mischaracterize your criticism of science? It seems you went right into the typical song and dance and rather than answer any questions or counter any points, you present the same trash talking diatribe. Interesting that you ridicule even the attempt to understand your position, without offering the slightest of clarification.

These questions you keep seeing should have easy answers. It entertaining to see the amount of effort you put into slithering out of simply explaining yourself.

I believe our point of view of each other is well established, no need to keep repeating yourself with the definition of science and science and what not, its really getting old. And sorry if my name calling and stuff offends you, guess showing a little personality is also frowned upon...

The name calling is not the point. I have thick skin. The point is you only pretend to name call, without being able to give any reason why, aside from dissension. You can't for one sentence defend the things you say, so you fall back on hollow abuse. If I repeat myself it is because you are dodging and ignoring the answer to your ridicule. Regardless if my defense of science is getting old, you will continue to see it.

And my claims cant live up to the standards? what standards? Are you talking about SCIENCE again Heisenberg? my my, theres really no hope in explaining these kinds of things to you people.

I am talking about careful and thorough study vs half baked teenage mind vomit. You are the one who makes asinine statements and then jumps on anyone who disagrees. You are not just taking a position against science, but sensibility of any kind. You resist any attempts others make to examine and understand your campaign against reason because you don't understand it yourself. You are simply engaging in systematic rejection as a way to achieve cognitive dissonance and self aggrandizement, apparently not caring that you also sacrifice self respect and integrity.

We only need to look to witch burning to see the reasons why it's critical to favor fastidious investigation over groundless speculation. If it were your mother or daughter upon the stake you would be singing a different tune, and if not, then you are without redemption.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

You are absolutely right, i cannot read your mind, i cannot experience that which you have experienced. But i know, from my experiences, and from stories of countless others... that when we attempt to give meaning to any experience we have, regardless of it being spiritual or not, it is made into what we want it to be, rather than staying exactly what it is... an experience.

(just consumed 3.5 grams of cracker dry cubensis mushrooms, i love tripping alone... almost as much as i love tripping with friends)

Im not saying you should be able to read my mind, Im saying I have had my mind read multiple times, that is the experience that Im giving meaning to, and theres really no other way of putting it... When your mind is getting read you know that its getting read, Im not giving it false meaning when I say someone read my thoughts and answered my questions when I only think them.

 

[tyler.durden]

I think they are scared of it because they have simple minds, bunch of 17-19 year olds who just wanna party and get laid... And I guess none of these events never happend to skeptics is because spiritual beings and aliens feel that they have nothing to prove, thats just what I think.

The amazing experiences are kind of a long story... I became friends with this kid who claimed he was a Godly being of higher consciousness, so my reaction was "Yeah fuckn right". But after a few times talking about these types of things it ALMOST seemed like he knew what he was talking about, he would say things that Buddha would say and he was very insightful, he said a lot of things that I already believed in... So I started listening to this guy some more, listening to what ever craziness that comes out of his mouth and see if I can find a shred of truth to it... So one night a group of us were walking to get a bag of weed, enjoying the silence, and I got to thinking of his words. He said it was weird that I had a multi-colored Aura, and he said his Aura was white with golden hands and golden crown. Anyways, when we were walking I thought "He said I could have an Aura like his, wonder if thats true" and when I thought that, he looked at me and said "No you cant, shane" to which I said "WHAAAT??!!?!" my mind was fucking blown to say the least, because he just answered a question that I THOUGHT of... The rest of that silent walk was pretty interesting... I was freaking out that someone was in my head, I felt scared and violated, like I had no privacy what so ever... My mind was in a panic but I kept my composure. My mind started wondering to things that I was ashamed of and I couldnt think of anything else because I kept thinking "Does he know this about me now? shit! now he does because I thought of it!"... So after those thoughts of panic and anxiety he looked at me and said "Shane, your faults are what define you, they are the diamond of your being" ... And those words put me at ease.

A few times after that I was uncomfortable hanging around him because I knew if he was included in my thought process then he would be able to read the thought. We're cool now though, I just decided not to care if he read my mind, because I know he doesnt care, he is completely non judgemental because I know that he knows my secrets (not that Im some freak) and it didnt make him think any less of me.

The 19 year old Im talking about is very unassuming, he is a punk-looking skater who parties a lot, someone you usually dont go seeking advice from. But you cannot deny the kids abilities to read minds and a few other things. He only tells you and shows you these things if you are somewhat opened minded and willing to learn something from it, he doesnt go around preaching the amazing truth of reality to people. He doesnt want exposure or popularity because of what he can do, he just wants to inform certain people in his life of whats really going on, then those people can inform certain people and so on, but its kinda hard to pass along when you dont have the abilities to read minds lol

I've experienced much more than mind reading with him, he said because I had these certain experiences it means that I am special in a way, like he is... Which leads me to ponder "if Im so special, what is my purpose?" I got a feeling Im going to find that out soon...

Knowing these things can indeed give someone a big head though, "I know something you dont know!" <-- that kinda thing. It can also make you question your sanity, I have a couple of times, but I didnt struggle with it often.

Btw... The guy Im talking about claims to be a creation of Archangel Michael... And he has a circle of friends that have similar abilities to his, I am apart of that circle now but I only met one of his friends, the one that he calls his master (master of knowledge that is, he doesnt tell him what to do and shit). And Im looking forward to meeting the other two, one is apparently an Oracle that can tell me more about who I am and give hints to my purpose in this world.

I can go on and on about his stories and what he says to be true, the kid has a lot to say, but I also believe hes not living up to his potential at all. If I were able to read minds, I would become a spiritual assassin and murder the evil ones in power and save the planet, or at least try and shine the light on spirituality and reality, but hes just a skater punk who parties and works 7/11. I dont get it, maybe hes just waiting for something... Anyways, thats ONE of my crazy experiences, hope you enjoyed

Wow. Just, wow. I'm not going to go on a spree of rationality here about how we tend to remember the hits and disregard the misses, or about the biases that you have toward certain ideas coloring your perception of this magical lad, or how you may be naturally thrilled about 'being special' because you can see how special he is, etc.. The one thing I'd ask you to do is one day while hanging with him, casually ask him what you're thinking two or three times. My guess is he won't play, or if he does, he'll miss at least two out of three. There is a reason why these folks will only show their abilities to the 'open-minded', as anyone applying any scrutiny would easily see through their methods. But just try out my experiment and let us know how it goes...

 

[mindphuk]

well you were just suggesting if you give meaning to something unexplainable then most likely your meaning is wrong because its only what you want it to be... Im saying its hard to mistake mind reading as anything else... Read my story I told to Tyler a few pages back... Its up to you to decide if Im a liar or not.

Did you see that quote from Heisenberg by a man named Ian Rowland? Did you happen google who he is and what he does?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Wow. Just, wow. I'm not going to go on a spree of rationality here about how we tend to remember the hits and disregard the misses, or about the biases that you have toward certain ideas coloring your perception of this magical lad, or how you may be naturally thrilled about 'being special' because you can see how special he is, etc.. The one thing I'd ask you to do is one day while hanging with him, casually ask him what you're thinking two or three times. My guess is he won't play, or if he does, he'll miss at least two out of three. There is a reason why these folks will only show their abilities to the 'open-minded', as anyone applying any scrutiny would easily see through their methods. But just try out my experiment and let us know how it goes...

I dont need to further prove to myself that he was reading my mind, I communicated with thoughts on multiple occasions with him (Wish I was able to hear his thoughts though)... One time when I was still very uncomfortable being around him, I stood behind him and thought "Whats up man, hows it hanging?... Dont answer that, Get the fuck outta my head asshole!" and he just turned around and laughed and so did I... And other times when we are having talks about spirituality and reality, I would have trouble wording some questions so I would just look at him and think then he would give an answer. One of my friends witnessed me looking at my magical buddy silently then getting an answer from him, he didnt know what to think of it... And I dont totally believe that I am all that special, he said I was special because I was able to feel him in my head and strongly in my heart (this is when he was in a meditative state) and I wasnt expecting him to do anything with me, I told him to go into my passed out friends mind, but instead he went into mine... The feeling I had in my head and in my heart (especially my heart) was a warm fuzzy vibration, it was indescribable, amazing none the less. And when I closed my eyes I would see a shape-shifting psychedelic orb hovering over me, he said that was him.

But I was convinced before any of those things happend to me... Because when I was having all those panic'd thoughts about what I was ashamed of and afraid of him finding out, he turned towards me and said "Shane, your faults are what define you, they are the diamond of your being" <--- that is just some crazy profound Godly shit right there.

 

[KronDonSmoker]

I like Turtles

 

[tyler.durden]

I dont need to further prove to myself that he was reading my mind, I communicated with thoughts on multiple occasions with him (Wish I was able to hear his thoughts though)... One time when I was still very uncomfortable being around him, I stood behind him and thought "Whats up man, hows it hanging?... Dont answer that, Get the fuck outta my head asshole!" and he just turned around and laughed and so did I... And other times when we are having talks about spirituality and reality, I would have trouble wording some questions so I would just look at him and think then he would give an answer. One of my friends witnessed me looking at my magical buddy silently then getting an answer from him, he didnt know what to think of it... And I dont totally believe that I am all that special, he said I was special because I was able to feel him in my head and strongly in my heart (this is when he was in a meditative state) and I wasnt expecting him to do anything with me, I told him to go into my passed out friends mind, but instead he went into mine... The feeling I had in my head and in my heart (especially my heart) was a warm fuzzy vibration, it was indescribable, amazing none the less. And when I closed my eyes I would see a shape-shifting psychedelic orb hovering over me, he said that was him.

But I was convinced before any of those things happend to me... Because when I was having all those panic'd thoughts about what I was ashamed of and afraid of him finding out, he turned towards me and said "Shane, your faults are what define you, they are the diamond of your being" <--- that is just some crazy profound Godly shit right there.

Well, I can't comment on what you experienced because I wasn't there. I would have to go through something similar in order to give your story any weight. All I can say is I don't believe you, and I'm not sure if you're intentionally lying to give yourself and your ideas credibility, or if you're really delusional enough to believe what your writing. But, who gives a fuck what I believe. I still think that you guys should go get the million from the Amazing Randi for the mind reading, perhaps the fame you two would receive would convert more people to spirituality. If there's truth to what you write, it'd be a worth while pursuit...

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Well, I can't comment on what you experienced because I wasn't there. I would have to go through something similar in order to give your story any weight. All I can say is I don't believe you, and I'm not sure if you're intentionally lying to give yourself and your ideas credibility, or if you're really delusional enough to believe what your writing. But, who gives a fuck what I believe. I still think that you guys should go get the million from the Amazing Randi for the mind reading, perhaps the fame you two would receive would convert more people to spirituality. If there's truth to what you write, it'd be a worth while pursuit...

I'll bring that idea up with my spiritual buddy.

 

[flowamasta]

i thought this was an alien thread........boring. sorry but seriosly

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

i thought this was an alien thread........boring. sorry but seriosly

OH YEAH! My friend is also from Uranus

 

[DoctorSmoke]

you can see UFOs any night flying up in the sky, just gotta look up for 20 mins watching the stars. i seen many and i can tell u this, half the stars in the sky are UFOs. they just sit there looking like a star then bam it moves or disappears or moves sightly to the side and back, they do this to avoid other moving UFOs (those white stars moving in a straight line). if u see a white star moving watch it and the other stars around it.

types of UFOs i seen are: moving stars, big slow moving orange-red balls that fade out, orange light with black structure surrounding it with 8 red and blue lights attached 2x4 and it was moving slowly, and stars in the sky slying around eachother for 10 mins. from what i seen our atmosphere is guarded my aliens or theres a huge war up there. they are either fighting or chasing and avoiding each other.
ur prob not gonna catch a star thats still moving, but if u see one moving already then u can catch some movement from the still stars as it passes by them.

 

[Heisenberg]

Lol their you go again Heisenberg, taking what I say, processing it through your computer-like brain then present it to me like an automated android waiting for another subject to pass by that you can dissect and prove false. I believe our point of view of each other is well established, no need to keep repeating yourself with the definition of science and science and what not, its really getting old. And sorry if my name calling and stuff offends you, guess showing a little personality is also frowned upon...
And my claims cant live up to the standards? what standards? Are you talking about SCIENCE again Heisenberg? my my, theres really no hope in explaining these kinds of things to you people.

So your position is, organized knowledge is stupid and sloppy ignorance is the way to go. I suppose laughter and belittlement are the only options for you when you subscribe to this approach. Your attitude makes more sense to me now, it is the labored struggle of a slow thinking dullard as his brain tries to digest things that are beyond him, like math and science. I see now that you would benefit more from a straight jacket and Thorazine shot, education is lost on the defective.

 

[tyler.durden]

you can see UFOs any night flying up in the sky, just gotta look up for 20 mins watching the stars. i seen many and i can tell u this, half the stars in the sky are UFOs. they just sit there looking like a star then bam it moves or disappears or moves sightly to the side and back, they do this to avoid other moving UFOs (those white stars moving in a straight line). if u see a white star moving watch it and the other stars around it.

types of UFOs i seen are: moving stars, big slow moving orange-red balls that fade out, orange light with black structure surrounding it with 8 red and blue lights attached 2x4 and it was moving slowly, and stars in the sky slying around eachother for 10 mins. from what i seen our atmosphere is guarded my aliens or theres a huge war up there. they are either fighting or chasing and avoiding each other.
ur prob not gonna catch a star thats still moving, but if u see one moving already then u can catch some movement from the still stars as it passes by them.

..........

 

[jessy koons]

I sometimes feel like a UFO. I don't have any blinking lights yet but I'm hoping to get some for Christmas and maybe a tunic with really, really wide shoulders and space boots like Napoleon Dynamite has.

 

[*BUDS]

you can see UFOs any night flying up in the sky, just gotta look up for 20 mins watching the stars. i seen many and i can tell u this, half the stars in the sky are UFOs. they just sit there looking like a star then bam it moves or disappears or moves sightly to the side and back, they do this to avoid other moving UFOs (those white stars moving in a straight line). if u see a white star moving watch it and the other stars around it.

types of UFOs i seen are: moving stars, big slow moving orange-red balls that fade out, orange light with black structure surrounding it with 8 red and blue lights attached 2x4 and it was moving slowly, and stars in the sky slying around eachother for 10 mins. from what i seen our atmosphere is guarded my aliens or theres a huge war up there. they are either fighting or chasing and avoiding each other.
ur prob not gonna catch a star thats still moving, but if u see one moving already then u can catch some movement from the still stars as it passes by them.

Bullshit. And the same goes for anyone else who believes in UFO's ,big foot, loch ness monster, ghosts and WWF.

 

[DoctorSmoke]

Bullshit. And the same goes for anyone else who believes in UFO's ,big foot, loch ness monster, ghosts and WWF.

well what ppl are seeing in the sky could be anything. if they were aliens and wanted to remain hidden then they are fucking stupid aliens for flying stuff in our atmosphere that looks like stars and big red holograms that dont do shit but move n disappear. should save urself for the day that UFOs are announced and open ur mind. well basically governments are turning over their ufo case reports, all i seen was eyewitnesses accounts and no camera footage, but theres plenty of videos of UFOs lol. do we need some kind of official announcement that theres shit in the sky that we dont know about?

btw UFO is a misinformation tool, its a broadterm word that covers everything we dont know that flies/hovers around.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

So your position is, organized knowledge is stupid and sloppy ignorance is the way to go. I suppose laughter and belittlement are the only options for you when you subscribe to this approach. Your attitude makes more sense to me now, it is the labored struggle of a slow thinking dullard as his brain tries to digest things that are beyond him, like math and science. I see now that you would benefit more from a straight jacket and Thorazine shot, education is lost on the defective.

*sigh* sure Heisenberg, 100% correct, if that makes you happy, note that I only read your first sentance.

 

[Heisenberg]

*sigh* sure Heisenberg, 100% correct, if that makes you happy, note that I only read your first sentance.

No need to stress your derelict faculties trying to read, I recognize the tune your singing now. At first I thought it might be an original, but now I see you're just sampling the classics. It's good to hear the ole hits once in a while like 'delusion' and 'bat-shit boogie', but they get old quick.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

No need to stress your derelict faculties trying to read, I recognize the tune your singing now. At first I thought it might be an original, but now I see you're just sampling the classics. It's good to hear the ole hits once in a while like 'delusion' and 'bat-shit boogie', but they get old quick.

Yes yes yes, you mentioned this many times but with different words, we know Heisenberg... We know... Can the butt-hurt scientist be put at ease now? lol