Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Moms???(any similarity with MMJ grower?)

AsianDude

Member
During the crack cocaine boom of the 1990s, the image of the millionaire crack dealer implanted itself on the public consciousness. But anyone who spent time around the Crips or Bloods or any other crack-selling gang might have noticed something odd: A great many crack dealers still lived at home with their moms. Why was that?

Sudhir Venkatesh, a University of Chicago graduate student at the time, discovered the answer.

He had originally been sent by his thesis advisor into a Chicago housing project to administer a sociological survey. But after a harrowing encounter with a local crack gang, he befriended its leader and virtually embedded himself with the gang for six years. He was given a pile of notebooks containing four years' worth of the gang's financial transactions -- a trove of data that, when subjected to an economic analysis, proved incredibly revealing.

At root, economics is the study of incentives -- how people get what they want, or need, especially when other people want or need the same thing. The rules apply just as well to a crack gang as to a Fortune 500 business.

As it turned out, the gang worked a lot like most American businesses, though perhaps none more so than McDonald's. If you were to hold a McDonald's organizational chart and the crack gang's organizational chart side by side, you could hardly tell the difference.

The gang was one of about 100 branches -- franchises, really -- of the Black Gangster Disciple Nation. The franchise leader whom Venkatesh befriended, a college graduate named J. T., reported to a board of directors. J. T. employed three senior officers and, depending on the season, from 25 to 75 "foot soldiers," or street-level salesmen. (Autumn was the busiest season for selling crack; summer and Christmastime were slow.) At the bottom of the organization were as many as 200 "rank-and-file" members, who weren't employees but did pay dues, hoping to one day become foot soldiers.

J. T.'s gang took in revenues of about $32,000 a month. Not counting wages, it cost J. T. about $14,000 to operate, including $5,000 for the wholesale purchase of cocaine and another $5,000 as a kickback to the board of directors.

J. T.'s single largest expense was the wage he paid himself: $8,500 a month, for an annual salary of about $100,000. There were roughly 100 leaders of J. T.'s stature within the Black Disciple network. These were the drug dealers who could indeed afford to live large, or -- in the case of the board of directors -- extremely large. Each of those roughly 20 directors stood to earn about $500,000 a year.

So the top 120 men on the Black Disciples' pyramid were paid very well. But the pyramid they sat atop was gigantic. Using J. T.'s franchise as a yardstick -- three officers and roughly 50 foot soldiers -- there were about 5,300 other men working for those 120 bosses. Then there were the 20,000 unpaid rank-and-file members, many of whom wanted nothing more than a chance to become a foot soldier. And how well did that dream job pay? About $3.30 an hour.

J. T.'s three officers didn't do much better: about $7 an hour. So the answer to the original question -- if drug dealers make so much money, why are they still living with their mothers? -- is that, except for the top cats, they don't make much money. They have no choice but to live with their mothers.

A crack gang works pretty much like the standard capitalist enterprise: You have to be near the top of the pyramid to make a big wage. But selling crack is a lot more dangerous than most menial labor. Anyone who was a member of J. T.'s gang for the four years covered in the notebooks stood a 1-in-4 chance of being killed. That's more than five times as deadly as being a timber cutter, which the Bureau of Labor Statistics calls the most dangerous job in the United States.


So if crack dealing is really the most dangerous job in America, and it pays less than minimum wage, why on Earth would anyone take such a job? Well, for the same reason a pretty Wisconsin farm girl moves to Hollywood. For the same reason that a high school quarterback wakes up at 5 a.m. to lift weights.

They all want to succeed in an extremely competitive field in which, if you reach the top, you are paid a fortune (to say nothing of the attendant glory and power). But in each of these glamour professions, the same problem exists: A lot of people are competing in what is essentially a tournament.

Earning big money in J. T.'s crack gang wasn't much more likely than the Wisconsin farm girl becoming a movie star or the high school quarterback playing in the NFL. But criminals, like everyone else, respond to incentives.
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
You should keep all your threads together. No need to post threads here, and the black briefcase, all with the same info. Dont worry, we'll go through and delete them for you. :)

That said, I couldnt agree less with anything you typed. You must have been the crack pipe hitting person. MMJ growers and pot dealers are not uneducated, low IQ folks, drawn into the business by being rich overnight. The fact you said that goes to show how uneducated you are. I've got a PhD in quantum physics. I'm also a Mensa International member. That means I'm educated *and* have a high IQ. So yes, that's one objection.
 

AsianDude

Member
You should keep all your threads together. No need to post threads here, and the black briefcase, all with the same info. Dont worry, we'll go through and delete them for you. :)

That said, I couldnt agree less with anything you typed. You must have been the crack pipe hitting person. MMJ growers and pot dealers are not uneducated, low IQ folks, drawn into the business by being rich overnight. The fact you said that goes to show how uneducated you are. I've got a PhD in quantum physics. I'm also a Mensa International member. That means I'm educated *and* have a high IQ. So yes, that's one objection.
Having a PHD doesn't mean you are smart, there are too many PHDs who can't find a faculty job and on well fare. you have a PHD in quantum physics, not Computer Science or Electronic Engineering, that makes you unemployable. Have you heard of any CS,EE PHDS who work for Google, Intel or Facebook hanging out here?

How much food stamp do you get every month ? how much money you have lost by growing weed? don't be shy

Are you one of these?:http://www.inquisitr.com/234626/phd-and-on-food-stamps-why-this-graduate-is-on-welfare/
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
Having a PHD doesn't mean you are smart, there are too many PHDs who can't find a faculty job and on well fare. you have a PHD in quantum physics, not Computer Science or Electronic Engineering, that makes you unemployable.
How much food stamp do you get every month ? how much money have you lost by growing weed? don't be shy

Are you one of this:http://www.inquisitr.com/234626/phd-and-on-food-stamps-why-this-graduate-is-on-welfare/
Your a 20 year old disbarred attorney trying to question my intelligence and call everyone here idiots.......... Fail. =P On the food donations, we just brought a palette of campbells soup cans to a local shelter this morning and we have three more to pick up and deliver. Its called charity work. Us rich educated folk' do that stuf, feel me? =P

What other stupid stuff do you have to say in your fewer-than-ten posts here?
 

dank smoker420

Well-Known Member
i dont think people on here are growing pot for a instant profit. if you think that it might be you. most people here are doing it just to do it and to have some weed they dont have to pay a shady dealer to get. a vast majority of the people are losers. i bet alot of people here think you are a loser.
 

richinweed

Active Member
You should keep all your threads together. No need to post threads here, and the black briefcase, all with the same info. Dont worry, we'll go through and delete them for you. :)

That said, I couldnt agree less with anything you typed. You must have been the crack pipe hitting person. MMJ growers and pot dealers are not uneducated, low IQ folks, drawn into the business by being rich overnight. The fact you said that goes to show how uneducated you are. I've got a PhD in quantum physics. I'm also a Mensa International member. That means I'm educated *and* have a high IQ. So yes, that's one objection.
.I would like to further that objection by saying i have a diploma in forest technology 5, ive succsesfully started and ran a charity fundraising buisness.10 years and owned my firt acreage by the time i was 23...thanks to this simplton hobby of growing dreams. and i would like to add if we are all simple then you must be here to take advantage of us lesser worth ppl..........now that ive said way too fukkin much! but ppl like u just piss me off, always assuming u are superior than those around you, its prevelant here and in society in general,,,,aaaaarrrrg!!!!
 

Fungus Gnat

Well-Known Member
Your a 20 year old disbarred attorney trying to question my intelligence and call everyone here idiots.......... Fail. =P On the food donations, we just brought a palette of campbells soup cans to a local shelter this morning and we have three more to pick up and deliver. Its called charity work. Us rich educated folk' do that stuf, feel me? =P

What other stupid stuff do you have to say in your fewer-than-ten posts here?
You're. :p

He's trolling and by responding...you're feeding him. He's probably faping to your post right now.
 

Total Head

Well-Known Member
Having a PHD doesn't mean you are smart, there are too many PHDs who can't find a faculty job and on well fare. you have a PHD in quantum physics, not Computer Science or Electronic Engineering, that makes you unemployable. Have you heard of any CS,EE PHDS who work for Google, Intel or Facebook hanging out here?

How much food stamp do you get every month ? how much money you have lost by growing weed? don't be shy

Are you one of these?:http://www.inquisitr.com/234626/phd-and-on-food-stamps-why-this-graduate-is-on-welfare/
i think the "being a member of mensa" is what he was using to refute the low iq claim, not the phd. his entire point seemed to float right over your head. you have no evidence on which to base your claim that the members here are uneducated, or even that the members here accurately reflect the community as a whole. comparing a self-starting, self-employed cannabis farmer to a hoodrat trying to climb the oily ladder of of a crack gang hierarchy is a very sad debate point. it's something a really shitty lawyer would try to argue. just sayin'.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
you have to remember this is the same guy who started a thread the other day saying he wanted to start growing so he could make money.. was even going to drive the weed to new york himself so he could unload it at top shelf prices..
oh yah, i don't know why i even responded when dude can't read my posts.. :)
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
He said we are uneducated, which is why I brought up PhD. He said we're low IQ'd, which Mensa requires a high IQ to be invited. I do know he's a troll, but sometimes showing the troll that we will SQUASH them here on Rollitup is a great idea instead of letting them turn into Cataracts. :)
 

april

Pickle Queen
Verbally "owned" by RK, this always makes my panties wet, mmm sexy brain lol well played as always :)
 

nuglets

New Member
You should keep all your threads together. No need to post threads here, and the black briefcase, all with the same info. Dont worry, we'll go through and delete them for you. :)

That said, I couldnt agree less with anything you typed. You must have been the crack pipe hitting person. MMJ growers and pot dealers are not uneducated, low IQ folks, drawn into the business by being rich overnight. The fact you said that goes to show how uneducated you are. I've got a PhD in quantum physics. I'm also a Mensa International member. That means I'm educated *and* have a high IQ. So yes, that's one objection.
having a degree doesn't necessarily make you any more intelligent than someone else. there are different types of intelligence. i know people that have multiple degrees and are basically career students but couldn't figure out how to change a circuit breaker in a loadcenter. even worse is someone who goes around bragging about degress that they have and being a member of Mensa. we're all happy that you have a PhD and are a member...but you haven't cured cancer yet so let's not act like it makes you any better or smarter than the 2 girls who run my office.

wasn't the article about crack? not weed. maybe i'm lost.
 

nuglets

New Member
best bet is stay away from that guy AsianDude. i used to have a link under my avatar to my yahoo IM account. he starting sending me messages the other day after i posted in his thread about growing weed. let's just say he's SUPER shady! i had to block him cause he started flamming me cause i wouldn't give him a job or hook him up with friends so he could drive their weed across country.

where i'm from that's called SUSPECT!!!
 

skunkd0c

Well-Known Member
another lovely big wall of text that i am not going to read
i think i will wait for your full autobiography
 

RyanTheRhino

Well-Known Member
He said we are uneducated, which is why I brought up PhD. He said we're low IQ'd, which Mensa requires a high IQ to be invited. I do know he's a troll, but sometimes showing the troll that we will SQUASH them here on Rollitup is a great idea instead of letting them turn into Cataracts. :)
I never even heard of mensa

http://www.mensa.org/workout.php<<quiz

I got 28/30 missed a spelling question i hate being so illiterate. I think i should have got 29 because i dont understand their reasoning for the question on pasted below.

Four years ago, Jane was twice as old as Sam. Four years on from now, Sam will be 3/4 of Jane's age. How old is Jane now?


Oh nvm They meant 8 years in the future

I said 8, which should be right. but they said 12?

Jane = 4 , sam = 2 <<<< that'sJane 2x same

four years later

Jane = 8 , sam =6 << simplify jane is 4 & sam is 3

thus sam is 3/4 of janes age





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Feedback:12. 4 years ago Jane was 8, Sam was 4. In 4 years from now, Jane will be 16 and Sam will be 12.




 

nuglets

New Member
I never even heard of mensa

http://www.mensa.org/workout.php<<quiz

I got 28/30 missed a spelling question i hate being so illiterate. I think i should have got 29 because i understand their reasoning for the question on pasted below.

Four years ago, Jane was twice as old as Sam. Four years on from now, Sam will be 3/4 of Jane's age. How old is Jane now?



you are factoring a total of 4 years passing by. it is actually 8 years that pass by.
 
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