Ohio Outdoors

KushMaster

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Hey to all my outdoor growers im back at it again I Got about 14 plants outside total now. I Had four out there since Late April But they were already about 1 1/2ft-2ft whenthey got transplanted to outdoors. I just recently transplanted my babies outside only 10 right now. Anyways I been having a couple different issues 1st pest which is about to be tooken care of because I just got a 3-1 pesticide fungiside and miteicide its organic really made for Tomatos and Vegetables by Bonide so thatissue may be tooken care of. Second problem is I noticed on a couple of my older plants is that there are many yellowish brownish tiny spots on the leaves and Im curious to what this may be a symptom of. Third issue is the four plants that i have outside have began to flower I have confirmed out of the four 2 are female 1 is a male but it looks like a hermie a lil(about to chop) the last is unknown. The area my plants is recieve exactly about 12 -13 hours because of the bushes and tree i cut some of the limbs on nearby shrubs and other plnts but still doesnt do much any advice on another way to keep my plants from flowering too early even tho i dont mind but they are only about 2 feet. So you can have a understandin the sunlights reaches my plants about 9:30- 10:30 sometime in between that time frame.
 

KushMaster

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Thanks guys I will keep y'all updated so stay tuned… just made another confirmation. Out of the older plants I found out there were 3 females out of 4 I just cut the male up… I'm real happpy hope I get a good ratio on my 2nd babies and my 3rd generation (soon to be put outside by june)
 

crfhonda

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I had those brown spots last year on the clones that I planted outside. I think it is Leaf spot disease. I went and bought something at my local hydro store that helped heal and control the leaf spot disease. It was in a spray bottle, and im not 100% sure what it was called. Do some research on the web for disease control sprays for vegetable plants. I will try to find exactly what the spray was called and post it in here.
 

KushMaster

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Thanks honda… I thought it may have been a nutrient block from a high ph in the soil maybe or 6rom the spider mites or these greenish yellow red or the small flying bugs I been spottin maybe that could be the cause…


Anyone agree or not need advice for solutions
 

KushMaster

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Well I been precisely addin nutes and flush for the past week and applying bonide 3-1 and it sees like the leaf problem has been contained… I don't kno if it was the nutes or the spray I applied but something worked…
 

KushMaster

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I think it may have been a leaf spot disease like honda said caused from fungus not forsure but the bonide protects against leaf spot disease… also I think it may have been from pest from research I have seen on bug symptoms… another theory is that it may have been from high ph but not sure … because if that was the case addin nutes would have made the situation worse so I cancel that theory.
 

KushMaster

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Up date picture older plants about 2 1/2 months... The measurements of the biggest 1 4.5 ft about 2 tallest about 3.8 feet and the smaller one 3.5 feet more or less. As far as the leaf spot disease I have been sprayin with Bonide the situation has not got worse. Also been have Catipiller problem I been noticing large chunks missing or biting from leaves on all three of the Big plants not much for the other ones. I've been feeding mg bloom nutes on and off lately than flushing for a couple days so they look preety healthy to me just got to keep fighting these bugs any suggestions on effective on catilpiller control....



Just to get fellow growers a up-to-par on the soil ive been using I've used Mg absorbency soil mixed with organic top soil for the big 3 plants and 2 of the 2nd gen plants, For about 5 of the 2 gen plants i used strait organic green thumb potting soil on the other 5 2gen I used Mg Fruit and Vegetable Garden Soil Mixed with organic topsoil. Ive have 6 more holes im about to fill with Osmocote Potting soil which ima mix with peat moss and thinkin of greenthumb organic cow manure or regular Hardwood mulch Cow manure that my garden center supplies!! Tell me what you guys think of my soil and soil mixture and chose of manure never used manure before must i add.


So i need a lil advice on how to apply the peat moss(or organic peat) and the organic cow manure (or the Hardwood mulch cow manure) Help Guys And Comment On the Pics Plz!
 

KushMaster

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Do any one know what the spots are on the leafs... I think it may be from either pesticides or fungicides like a leaf spot disease which i've done research on and it seems preet conclusive but Im not for sure still need help and "WANT!!" help. Also pics on the soil i've been using and the Organic Fert Im think about using on my 5 3rd gen plants...
 

Kaendar

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Dude take that miracle gro out of ur mix.. also u shud substitute that cow manure with earthworm castings and either bat guano or chicken scat. You arent growing corn.
 

KushMaster

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Do you honestly think the mg can ruin my crop or is that just a sterotypical staement because it has been working fine so far my babies…

What wrong with using the mg garden soil. Its for fruit so I figured it xant harm my plant that bad and organics… The mg absorbency soil is just for if you overwater or underwater ur plants that want suffer because it golds moistwe good and also has good draingage



Plz reply!!!
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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Dude take that miracle gro out of ur mix.. also u shud substitute that cow manure with earthworm castings and either bat guano or chicken scat. You arent growing corn.
ha, ur right, corns actually harder to grow, and please do tell, whats wrong with the manure,

Manure for your Garden



Pretty much everybody knows what manure is. But after that, what to we do with it? And, what do we really know about it? Sometimes not much. But then, how many people do you know of strive in life to be the subject matter expert on manure, despite it's importance in the gardening world?
[HR][/HR]Value of Garden Manure:
It's the "black gold" of the gardening world. Manure does a couple of things for your soil. First, it contains a rich and wide range of mineral and nutrients. It provides abundant amounts of the three main chemicals your plants need- Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium. Importantly, it also contains many of the micro-nutrients that we hear less about, yet are essential for plant growth and health..
The second benefit of manure is that it adds to the composition of the soil. It contains both animal waste and straw (or sometimes sawdust). In addition to all of those valuable, naturally sourced chemicals and nutrients, well-decomposed manure adds valuable compost that holds moisture and promotes easier, and healthier, root growth.
Tip: When dealing with manure, make sure that is it well-decomposed. Work it into the garden in the fall. And, never use fresh manure in the spring or summer.
We emphasize well-decomposed (or well rotted). Fresh manure is very "hot" and can damage your plants. Have you ever seen a dog "do his thing" on the lawn, and found a brown spot a few days later? This is because fresh manure is very high in nitrogen and burns plants. That same reseeded spot a few weeks later is the greenest spot in the lawn, as the area is still rich in nitrogen.
Don't know how to compost manure? It's a cinch. Just pile it up, or put it into a composter. Then, just let the manure decompose. It takes a couple months in warm weather, over will decompose over the winter months. Stirring the pile will aid in the process.
If you like the benefits of manure, try using Manure Tea on your indoor and outdoor plants.
Thought for the Day: When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.
[HR][/HR]Not All Manures are created equal!
To suggest that all manures are the same is to be naive. The diet of each and every animal varies, especially between vegetarian and carnivores. Most of the manures which you have regular access to are vegetarian. But even within this group, diets are different, and the digestion process functions different. Dietary changes, especially seasonal, also affect the final "finished product".
As an example of the differences, horses eat lots of field grasses and weeds. They do not pulverize their food as they eat it, and their digestive tract allows many weed seeds to pass through unaffected. As a result, a horse excretes many of those seeds. People who use horse manure, experience far more weeds in their gardens.
Cows on the other hand, also eat lots of field grasses and weeds. They chew and grind their food far more thoroughly, and their digestive system processes the food far more efficiently. The "end" product has far fewer weed seeds in it.
[HR][/HR]What kind of manures do gardeners use? The answer to this is pretty much what is available locally in your area.
Cow Manure - One of the two most popular manures, as it is available in large quantities. Farmers who convert cow pastures to farmland, reap excellent results. The disadvantage is it is a bit messier to handle.
Horse Manure - This is the second of the top two sources available to home gardeners. Again, the supply is usually readily available. It is mixed with straw or sawdust. With a barrel and a pitchfork, and you are all set.
Chicken Manure - If you are near a chicken farm, this is good source of manure.
Turkey Manure - As with Chicken manure, if you live near a turkey farm, stop by and see if the farmer will let you take some.
Sea Gull Manure - In the humorous book "Pumpkins are Orange" by Jack Breckinridge, a pumpkin grower goes off in search of quantities of seagull manure on the theory that everything near the ocean grows big because of it. Who knows, he may be right!
Rabbit Manure - Some suggest that rabbit manure is absolutely the best they have used. Finding big quantities is the challenge.
Bat Guano - Bat Guano (manure) is believed to be the absolute best of manures. Commercially, it commands the highest prices.
Did you know? There are articles and research on which type of bats produce the best bat guano.
Human Manure - While this is practiced in some foreign countries, the home gardener should avoid it. Untreated human waste has human disease that you can pick up or transmit.
Dog and cat Manure- okay for flower garden, but not recommended for the vegetable garden.
Stray waste(Deer, etc)- Limit to the flower garden or discard.
[HR][/HR]Sources of Manure:
The most common source is farms in your neighborhood. Some farms will charge for you to take it. Others will let you haul it away for free. A few, will not let you take it at all. In all cases, we recommend you be polite and respect the other person's property that you are on, as an offensive person or two can spoil access to those who come seeking manure later.
If you go often, bring along some of the fruits of your labor(flowers, fruits, vegetables). It goes a long way towards developing friendship to someone who is giving you something of value for free.
Before you go: Manure tends to get all over, no matter what you do. You would be amazed at how many people do not plan ahead for this task.Wear old clothes. Protect your vehicle by placing plastic covering down even, if you are hauling it in covered containers. Place plastic or newspaper on the floor under your feet. Shovels and pitchforks are a necessity. I saw one person once come up and ask to use the farms tools. He left quickly. And, don't forget an old towel in case you need to wipe your hands before touching the steering wheel.

--its good for all gardens and crops, MJ's no different​
 
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