Planing on building an indoor grow show? Let me design it for you on autocad first!

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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Take all the guess work out of it and let me design your room!

Fill out this form.

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And then give me your dimension with paint *exactly* like this.


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You'll need to convert the .bmp to JPEG
in order to upload at a visible size.
You can use this site to convert it.

http://www.coolutils.com/online/image-converter/

If you don't have Autocad you'll need this free program to
view the file.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=9078813

And you'll need to personal message me your e-mail in order for me to
send it to you. Set up a fake temporary e-mail if your worried about
giving it to a stranger.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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These are the products I modeled it after

2 of these fans should work because fluorescent fixtures don't put off that much heat

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AEFSC04&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AFAAIFHC04&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=HLIFT5ML28&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AEFW16CXT&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=PRTRAYEJP&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=PRDOMETNGW&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=PRHM2&eq=&Tp=

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=PRHMT&eq=&Tp=
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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Thanks for helping.... I will be building a room in a basement that measures 7' wide x 5' deep x 7' tall.... I can put doors and vents that will be best. I would like a perpetual grow of 4 to 6 plants growing & 8 to 12 plants flowering... Would like to keep 2 mother plants and clones... This will be an Aero grow and would like it to control smell from an 8 to a 10... $2000.00 is my max. Of course I will shop around & get the best deals... I did start a thread on Rollitup forum. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/531627-perpetual-setup-help-7x5-area.html

There you go. I hope this works for you. I suggest these ballasts

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=HLBADILT04360&eq=&Tp=
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=HLBADILT06360&eq=&Tp=


you can find everything on the drawing on these 2 sites


http://www.altgarden.com/lighting/reflectors/pl-reflectors-with-rail-socket-2.html
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/Index.asp?url=IND


You'll need 2 of these adapters


http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=HLLACOADHYSS&eq=&Tp=


You can use this to make a door way in the tarp


http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=MLTZU&eq=&Tp=


Make sure you get it nice and light tight


I think I might have went over your budget but I'm to tired to calculate everything
right now. If you have any questions or any of the objects in the drawing interfere
with something and needs to be moved let me know.

Thank you so much for the 3D drawing... It makes me want to learn a little about AutoCad.. But back to the room, I do have a few questions and I hope I don't bother. 1: I haven't seen those type of reflector for the light. Is this better than what I have seen with the cool tubes?

I don't think the cool tubes will work right. Especially since the bulb should be perpendicular to your rectangular plant pattern

2: The intake has for ventilation has the Ozone Generator and the filter going into the room. I think it should be exhaust, but how is the air from one side going to get to the other side?

This is the exhaust. The exhaust should always be at the top because heat rises and the intake at the bottom to move the most amount of air out of the room.
You always use your fan for exhaust not intake.

3: would adding a window A/C unit help and were could it go?

If your basement get above 60 degrees you may need and air conditioner.
Are you building this room in the middle of a bigger room? Where all sides are open?
If this is the case then you should try to cool the basement because your air conditioner
should always be exhausted outside.

I am building the room inside another room.. the basement is very well ventilated.... I see ur point.. once again I'm over thinking it. & I'll ck out those fans as soon as I get home...
I hope ur enjoying ur weekend...
Thanks
GT

I guess if you wanted try it you could always just put the window unit on the floor right in between the to intake vents.


I recommend these fan controllers Because your fan is always exhausting this way

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Variable+Fan+Speed+Controller+Day/Night&hl=en&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=681&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14098647595312494245&sa=X&ei=fW3CT5zPB4q02gXlotlV&ved=0CHMQ8wIwAQ#scoring=tp


Once Again, THANK YOU! I do appreciate what you have done. I am still reading and reading to gain more knowledge but sometimes its overwhelming when starting off.


& Thanks Again for staying up late to do this for me Again. Ok, know I got to go. I need to get up in 3 1/3 hours to go to work.. Talk to you soon.

Yes these are the best reflectors you can get. The Filter is on the inside of the the room and intake side because it needs to be and that is the way they work best and the fan and ozone generator are on the outside. I don't think air cooled reflectors are that necessary especially for small rooms because you can simply point your fan at the light.and trust me the air will get to the other side because of the vacuum your fan creates but you can always add a booster fan to the intake side if you want. like this:


http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AEFSC062&eq=&Tp=


and I recommend this filters on the intake to keep dust out of your room


http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AFAAIFHC04&eq=&Tp=
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AFAAIFHC06&eq=&Tp=

Thanks again for all ur help... I still need to look over the plans, cuz I'm
@ work.. You have managed to make me see the light.... Man did I get all confused... So much info out there, and bouncing around from thread to thread... You knowledge is making it easier...
GT

Yes it does get complicated. It took me years of studying and growing to get it all right.

You can use 2 wall mounted fans like these


http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AEFW16CXT&eq=&Tp=

 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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This is the improved version

abcgt+room+01.jpgabcgt+room+02.jpgabcgt+room+03.jpgabcgt+room+04.jpg

This way abcgt won't have to try to make a door through the Orca Grow Film and He/she will
have easier access to the systems.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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  • would adding a window A/C unit help and were could it go?

    If your basement gets above 60 degrees you may need and air conditioner.
    Are you building this room in the middle of a bigger room? Where all sides are open?
    If this is the case then you should try to cool the basement because your air conditioner
    should always be exhausted outside.

    I am building the room inside another room.. the basement is very well ventilated.... I see ur point.. once again I'm over thinking it. & I'll ck out those fans as soon as I get home...
    I hope ur enjoying ur weekend...
    Thanks
    GT

    Air conditioners put out a poison gas called Carbon Monoxide and that is why they need to be vented outside.

    I guess if you wanted try it you could always just put the window unit on the floor right in between the to intake vents.
    get a Carbon Monoxide detector and I suppose if it doesn't go off then you should be fine.

    ​


 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Dragon'sHoardSeeds said:


  • would adding a window A/C unit help and were could it go?

    If your basement gets above 60 degrees you may need and air conditioner.
    Are you building this room in the middle of a bigger room? Where all sides are open?
    If this is the case then you should try to cool the basement because your air conditioner
    should always be exhausted outside.

    I am building the room inside another room.. the basement is very well ventilated.... I see ur point.. once again I'm over thinking it. & I'll ck out those fans as soon as I get home...
    I hope ur enjoying ur weekend...
    Thanks
    GT

    Air conditioners put out a poison gas called Carbon Monoxide and that is why they need to be vented outside.

    I guess if you wanted try it you could always just put the window unit on the floor right in between the to intake vents.
    get a Carbon Monoxide detector and I suppose if it doesn't go off then you should be fine.

    ​
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  • ac units DO NOT emmit any carbon dioxide or any other form of poisonuos gas. this statement is incorrect. an ac is a heat pump essentially. it pushes the ambient air over the coils of a diffuser to remove heat that has been passed onto the refrigerant in the coils. no gases are produced by a window, minisplit, commercial, or portable ac unit. they are designed to be exhausted outside only to remove the heat from the area you are trying to cool. not for the removal of any gases.​
 
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WhyitHerb

New Member
ScoobyDoobyDoo said:


  • ac units DO NOT emmit any carbon dioxide or any other form of poisonuos gas. this statement is incorrect. an ac is a heat pump essentially. it pushes the ambient air over the coils of a diffuser to remove heat that has been passed onto the refrigerant in the coils. no gases are produced by a window, minisplit, commercial, or portable ac unit. they are designed to be exhausted outside only to remove the heat from the area you are trying to cool. not for the removal of any gases.
    ​
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actually you are right and wrong No electrical unit will produce carbon dioxide, monoxide but they are breeding grounds for disease if not kept in check legionaries disease
and for second part yes they do for units that run on gas or propane anything combustable will emit poisonious gas camping trailers have those units that run on propane etc
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
WhyitHerb said:
actually you are right and wrong No electrical unit will produce carbon dioxide, monoxide but they are breeding grounds for disease if not kept in check legionaries disease
and for second part yes they do for units that run on gas or propane anything combustable will emit poisonious gas camping trailers have those units that run on propane etc
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we're talking about grow room ac units. not propane fueled ac units. i've never heard of anyone using a propane fueled ac in a grow room but maybe that 1 person in 1 million might. who knows. lmao.

seriously? legionnaires disease? that's too funny. you got about as much chance of that happening as you do of getting hit by lighting. there have been a reported 50 or so deaths from the disease in the last 20 years. in the U.S. alone there are around 50 lighting deaths a year. come on man. legionnaires disease. wow. too funny.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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Thanks for the info guys. I once heard that they put off carbon monoxide. I tried to search it but got mixed results.
I think your right about it not though.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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I was thinking the easiest way to make the partition would be to put 1.5" x 1.5" boards around the center of your room and staple the orca grow film
or whatever type of reflective material you decide to use to it. Just make sure whatever material you use is listed as light tight. You can make your room 1.5" wider to compensate for this.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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Here is some tips on maneuvering in DWG True View.

You can zoom in and out using your mouse wheel.
If you press and hold the mouse wheel you can pan.
But the tool you may not find at first is called the
steering wheel. Just right click on the drawing and
scroll down to steering wheel. You can select Orbit
and move the camera in an orbit or select Look and
look around in 3d dimensions. There is also what they
call layers that allow you to render any part of the drawing
invisible. For example if you want to make the walls invisible
to make objects in the room easier to view. You'll find the
layers control at the top right where it says layers.

Dwg+true+view.jpg

click on the light bulb and it will render that part of the drawing ivisible.
Next to that you'll see the measuring control. Click on the ruler and then
click between any 2 points to get the dimensions in inches.
 
Dragon'sHoardSeeds

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http://www.pllight.com/index.php/products/reflectors

Since 1976, P.L. Light Systems have shined in greenhouses around the world. Now, they've taken all that know-how and put it into their new hobby light remote fixture systems. And we're very, very impressed with the results.
P.L. Light Systems’ grow light reflectors are manufactured using high quality aluminum (99. 8% pure), then polished and anodized, resulting in a microscopically facetted surface. This creates a highly efficient, uniformly diffused light pattern. Light intensity will decrease with an increase in distance from the light source. It is because of this law of nature that a smaller grow light reflector will reflect more light than a larger one, due to less distance between the light source and the reflective surface. P.L. Reflector Systems are the most efficient grow light reflectors available to the hobby, as well as the commercial grower. These indoor grow light reflectors will reflect more light with an even distribution to your plants when compared to other reflectors. All of these hydroponic lighting systems come with a 5-year warranty on the ballast and a 1-year warranty on the bulb.


Of all the P.L. grow light reflectors, the Deep model is our best-seller. For years the P.L. medium grow light reflector was the best on the market. Its performance was outstanding when compared to any other grow light reflector, and continues to receive rave reviews by the leading publications and authors. With the introduction of the Deep reflector, the Medium has been surpassed when used in square growing areas. Our Deep Reflector recommendations to achieve excellent results with plants that have high light requirements are as follows:


Wattage
Mounting Height​
Coverage​
Calculation Grid (PDF)*​
HPS 400/430
2 feet​
3 x 3 feet​
HPS 600
2.5 feet​
4 x 4 feet​

 
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