trayvan martin

[Red1966]

good enough for a death sentence for me! you are so fucking transparent it hurts. like i said, the zimmerman defense only makes sense if you treat martin with the presumption of guilt as you are doing. too bad martin was innocently walking home that night committing no crime. established fact, dickface.

Except assault. You're pretty adept at insulting people AFTER they've left. So let's count. #1 You're a lazy piece of shit who won't work. #2 You're a parasite on your family and society at large. #3 You're a coward. #4 You have no morals at all. #5 You spend 16 or more hours a day here because you have no life. #6 Even your wife says you're an ass. Shall I go on, or let someone else take a turn at you?

 

[Red1966]

"Trayvon was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to the report. School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation. A lawyer for the dead teen’s family acknowledged Trayvon had been suspended for graffiti, but said the family knew nothing about the jewelry and the screwdriver. “It’s completely irrelevant to what happened Feb. 26,” said attorney Benjamin Crump. “They never heard this, and don’t believe it’s true. If it were true, why wouldn’t they call the parents? Why wasn’t he arrested?” Trayvon, who was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School, had never been arrested, police and the family have said." ^^ is not evidence of trayvon doing anything untoward that night zimmerman himself on the 911 tape described him as being late teens so he couldnt have looked that old. i havent once denied that a 6'2" 17 yearold couldnt be dangerous if they wanted but the plain fact of the matter is 17 is still a kid. there is no evidence what so ever to say trayvon was doing anything wrong that night zimmermans got a body to explain (however it happened) WOW big old paragraph accusing me of a whole bunch of stuff... erm how did you deduce all of that from the few posts that i have made in this thread i would love to see you quote me saying anything to do with that stuff about his age check the 911 tapes zimmerman got it pretty much spot on somone posted something along the lines about they would perfer to have everything stolen than to have a dead kid on sidewalk. your response was to bring up trayvons "incidents" from school months to that (and this time it was me) i asked if it was cool beans to bring up zimmermans past http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-and-his-history-violence-sanford-florida-details for someone trying to accuse other people prejudice you have appeared to judged me and my belief on this with a few post by me saying trayvon is a kid and there is no evidence that he did anything wrong at the point zimmerman started following. as i said earlier i think your projecting here a wee bit

No evidence? You're still ignoring the wounds to Zimmerman's face and the back of his skull. Also, statements of witnesses. Surely you've seen the photos. So are you blind, retarded, or a bigot? Since the malice in your writing is plainly evident, I'm guessing bigot is the term that fits best.

 

[Red1966]

What bearing has the time when Zimmerman started following got to do with it? He did not shoot until after the alleged assault. The cop saying it would have happened if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck is stupid. It wouldn't have happened if Martin wasn't there either. If you rear end someone, is it their fault because it wouldn't have happened if they stayed home that day?

 

[MixedMelodyMindBender]

Did Uncle Buck call someone a dickface again??? Wow, I'm so surprised. Full of "logic" yet has a very limited ability to be conservative with his negative personal thoughts.

681 pages, 875 names called to one another, and all over 1 legal case. Senseless Bicker often???????

 

[Red1966]

i sell treadmills

Apparently not very many.

 

[kushforbrains]

The cops told zimmerman not to follow or pursue the suspect in the first place so it shoulda never happen n dead people don't talk so the only person to say Wat had happen is zimmerman and this witness witch is a family member or family friend I girlfriend witch so I mean the truth will never come out but who is to say trayvon didn't 'stand his ground' n defend himself against a man trying play like a cop n try n arrest him? (I wouldn't let a random crazy person try to an 'arrest' me because he wants to pretend he is a cop with his head of neighborhood watch badge)the truth will never come out but its sad to c anyone die for no reason but then again it happens every day in Chicago and no1 gives a fuck its a media frenzy with this racial shit n white vs black its bullshit the guys Hispanic wtf like I said its sad to c anyone die like that but 40 people got murdered over the weekend in Chicago n there is no hype like I said zimmerman was wrong n trayvon should be alive right now

 

[kushforbrains]

I forget witch not I girlfriend lol sorry

 

[redivider]

What bearing has the time when Zimmerman started following got to do with it? He did not shoot until after the alleged assault. The cop saying it would have happened if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck is stupid. It wouldn't have happened if Martin wasn't there either. If you rear end someone, is it their fault because it wouldn't have happened if they stayed home that day?

it matters because the intent of the law is for somebody in public can feel protected if attacked and they shoot.

the law is so vaguely written that this situation falls into gray area. the law was never intended for somebody to follow somebody down, start an altercation, then claim they stood their ground.

the truth is that nothing would've have happened if Zimmerman didn't try to play cop. it's not stupid, it's just inadmissible in court. the cops would've showed up, and the kid would've probably been safe at home.

our justice system is meant to protect us from vigilantism.

self defense, does not protect people who stalk others then get confronted.

i'll even level with you, say trayvann did look suspicious. looking suspicious does not equal actively involved in crime. a 6' teenager walks through a neighborhood, minding his own business, and deserves to get whacked?

if zimmerman would've tried to detain him "citizen's arrest style" he could've been arrested for violating trayvann's civil rights because the kid hadn't committed a crime. even after trayvan fought back, say trayvan did fight back and whipped zimmerman, zimmerman would've been the one in trouble, because trayvann had done NOTHING wrong......yet he shoots the fucker and gets to walk free? and that's somehow justified why? cuz the kid's black? give me a break....

 

[kushforbrains]

And even if trayvon beat his ass he was not armed and the 'attack' was over n done with and trayvon was multiple yards away when zimmerman shot him witch is some pussy shit u don't shoot someone cuz u got ur ass beat but I don't believe trayvon was the agresser in the first place but maybe zimmerman did get his ass beat by a 17 teen year old and feel like less of a man a decided to shoot the unarmed kid Idk n no1 will ever no because dead people don't talk but its sad to c a kid die for no reason at all because it never should have came down to using a gun

 

[smokestaxx]

and this stand your ground law is obsurd ...............what is this the wild west !!!!

 

[Red1966]

You're the one that's mis-informed. My statements are based on facts! If Z had captured TM robbing a house on HD video, and then turned it over to the DA's office, TM would be alive and facing justice for B&E. Almost every crime I see on TV is followed by, "The suspects were apprehended shortly after this video was taken." You actually think Fire arms prevent crime!? You're crazy, man. If that were the case, no one would apply for a CWP, they would all just open carry. With a "Crime preventer" on your belt, what could go wrong!? You actually made me laugh there. Guns kill. Period. If your life is in jeopardy, and you need to KILL someone, you use a fire arm. Hence, a killing device. If you see someone lurking about, you don't use a gun, silly. You use observation techniques to discover who and what this cat is up too. Guns prevent crimes? LOL!

Facts? " If Z had captured TM robbing a house on HD video", TM would have commited the crime. The camera, BY YOUR OWN STATEMENT, didn't prevent the crime. What a CWP or open carry has to do with it is kind of vague. OK, it has nothing to do with it. My life was in jeopardy, five teenagers came at me with pipes, knives, and ball bats. If I had not been carrying a gun, they would have killed me. I only fired up into the air, but that scared them off. Two days later, one of them tried to run me over in my BACK yard. I put three shots into his radiator, because I am not a violent person. He called the police and claimed I shot at him as he drove past my house. The neighbors statements, THREE broken fences, and the tire tracks going through my front yard, through the fence, circling around in the back yard, through the side fence, through the neighbor's yard, through the neighbor's fence, and through the neighbor's front yard, proved he was attempting to murder me. He was convicted of one count of attempted murder So were his four friends. So don't tell guns can't prevent crime. Nearly every week there's something on the news where an armed citizen was able to prevent a crime.

 

[Red1966]

I'm waiting for someone to say,"I use my side arm as a paper weight."

You use your side arm as a paper weight.

 

[Red1966]

there might be some mature 17 yearolds certainly not all of them are tho its a very rare beast that turns 18 and deserves the title of "adult" but as an arbitary age for legal adulthood 18's a good place im not going to suggest it be raised February 5, 1995 – February 26, 2012 thats 17 and 21 days old that alot more awfully close to being 16 than it is 18 dont you think? then we got his school life that people have been trying to use to demonize him lets look at it again. getting suspended for graffiti thats is a schoolboy error if ever you saw one no? its not even as if he was a budding artist just some kid scrawling onto a locker in front of a camera no less. is that the actions of a "young man" on the verge of manhood of some "kid" who hasnt learnt how not to be a muppet yet? if he was somone alive that i knew i would call him a kid still.. the funny thing is even zimmerman called him a "kid" on the 911 tapes but you are right it definitely is sad this kid is dead before he could even work out what life is about..

17 years and 21 days is actually closer to 18 than to 16. Our schools are failing to educate.

 

[ilovevajj2]

Ok i just want to say something, I do not believe that kid deserved to be shot, but i have met Trayvon Martin before, i live in a town where he was previously from and i went to school with him. The kid was a fucking thug he was probably trying to steal stuff out of unlocked cars (Very popular in Florida where im from, its called car-shopping) and he probably beat Zimmerman until he shot him. But i believe that this case it was never race related, i think if Zimmerman saw a white kid, or Mexican (Like Zimmerman is himself) and they started beating up Zimmerman he would have shot him to. I think that all the media and Trayvons family and friends made it out to be a racist problem when it never was. Im just saying if you were being beat up and you couldnt defend yourself you would have shot him to.

 

[ilovevajj2]

And one more thing, firearms do prevent crimes what if someone tried to kill a family member and they saved themselves by protecting themselves, then youd be thinking differently

 

[Red1966]

zimmerman would have dead eh? with what evidence are you basing this on? was it that even tho he had minor cuts to his head the didnt appear to be any lumping that i personally would expect if his head was being hit that hard. or was it that the ambulance called for zimmerman got turned round as it wasnt needed? even if trayvon was the aggressor and zimmerman was in fear of his life it doesnt automatically mean his life is in danger my oh my that young man martin nearly brutalized that poor zimmerman boy to death. praise da babby jeebus for those concealed carry laws praise jeebus ^i wasnt sure where that last bit came from as i was typing its but i couldnt help but think praise jeebus for concealed hallelujah!!

You lied. Zimmerman refused treatment, that's why the ambulance left. Slamming someones head against concrete will most certanly lead to death. "minor cuts" is just you trying to belittle the injuries, which you previously denied ever happened. You're lying to us for what reason? Do you get a prize for fooling your self?

 

[Red1966]

What difference does it make how much of a "kid" he was? He tried to kill a man. Any of us would have fought back with any means we had. I scorn people who say it is a tragedy, and then keep politicizing it. If Martin had been white, none of us would ever have heard about it.

A black male shot and killed a Hispanic in Phoenix, AR because the Hispanic punched the black man's car after he hit the Hispanic's dog and the Hispanic ON THE SIDEWALK. The same week Martin was killed. The black man wasn't arrested either. Did you hear about that? No, you didn't. What does that tell you about our media? Is it open season on Hispanics walking dogs?

 

[Red1966]

Wow another idiot coming to make comments. Fuck I'll play along with the retards today. and what man did he try to kill and why did he try to kill him ???

You're calling him an idiot? Ha, ha, ha

 

[Red1966]

I called you an idiot because you are one. I'm pretty much done with trying to have a decent conversation with the likes of you. You just prepare yourself for four more beautiful years of President Barrack Obama... Fuck um Lets Do This

And there it is.

 

[Red1966]

you are not a man if you are 17, in highschool, living with your folks, and not paying bills..

So Zimmerman knew all this?