The UK Growers Thread!

PUKKA BUD said:
you not worried about the bottom not gettin much light? might end up popcorn city low down.
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No mate bud size has nothing to do with light penetration,it's due to distribution of the IAA auxin. That's why I have removed the apical tip and the crappy stuff from the first 12 inches or so of the trunk, it's also the reason why scrog works like it does.
 
The Yorkshireman said:
No mate bud size has nothing to do with light penetration,it's due to distribution of the IAA auxin. That's why I have removed the apical tip and the crappy stuff from the first 12 inches or so of the trunk, it's also the reason why scrog works like it does.
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yup ur all about the penetration innit yorkie!!??lol
 
Aye i no all that bollox mate but doesnt bud size decrease the more colas you got? when you snip the top? like anything over 8 colas? you aint gunna end up mutiple buds the size of the main fucker. should be sound we the vertical lightin standed an them bottom buds wouldnt fatten up not if they ended up 7ft + like they will with out the trainin.
 
PUKKA BUD said:
Aye i no all that bollox mate but doesnt bud size decrease the more colas you got? when you snip the top? like anything over 8 colas? you aint gunna end up mutiple buds the size of the main fucker. should be sound we the vertical lightin standed an them bottom buds wouldnt fatten up not if they ended up 7ft + like they will with out the trainin.
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hes gunna be like david attenborough getting to them bak plants to chek em out,"day 7 of the mission:today wer in the wilderness looiking for that elusive 9th ganja plant":hack::hack:
 
Scrog works well cos of the even flat cabopy all plant gets same light? and the stuf you mentioned same with lst no point growin a 6ft tree toppin it puttin it in flower ends up 9ft no way any of the bottom 4ft is gunna do well with standed above lightin so you end up lollipoppin, whats point might aswell grow it shorter a waste of growth.
 
PUKKA BUD said:
Scrog works well cos of the even flat cabopy all plant gets same light? and the stuf you mentioned same with lst no point growin a 6ft tree toppin it puttin it in flower ends up 9ft no way any of the bottom 4ft is gunna do well with standed above lightin so you end up lollipoppin, whats point might aswell grow it shorter a waste of growth.
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makes sence like i always i was always in the mindset that bigger plants DONT mean bigger buds but im no horticlure nerd so i wouldnt know but it seems rite
 
PUKKA BUD said:
doesnt bud size decrease the more colas you got? when you snip the top? like anything over 8 colas? you aint gunna end up mutiple buds the size of the main fucker. should be sound we the vertical lightin standed an them bottom buds wouldnt fatten up not if they ended up 7ft + like they will with out the trainin.
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No. Depending on the shape of the plant you CAN get multiple buds the size of the main one (according to the genetic potential of the plant of course),that's the whole point.


This is a perfect example of apical dominance and IAA distibution (my old Skunk #1).
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If I remove the apical tip in section A then the majority of IAA production will be distributed across the tips in section B, making those buds just as big as the main one in section A had it not been removed. Then the buds further down the rest of the plant will grow to the relevant size,if I make the plant completely flat like in SCROG then IAA is evenly distributed throughout ALL tips producing buds as big as the main one according to the amount of light used and the genetic potential of the plant.

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It's misconception that SCROG works because of even light spread and is the biggest forum myth ever!

Biologists have known about the role of auxins since the 30's and I still don't understand why people on forums still regurgitate the same old crap over and over,it doesn't help anybody learn.


The definitive work on plant hormones if anybody cares to study it.

http://archive.org/stream/phytohormones00went#page/n5/mode/2up

.............;)
 
If you'd of took A of that in veg you would end up with about 10 pairs of nodes 20 colas it speads out to them all not just B. no way they would turn out as fat as that main cola or every fucker would top above the 10th node an have 20 huge colas. once you start goin over maybe the 4th node buds start gettin smaller an no where near the the size of the main 1 i lernt this a long time ago no need to draw me pics mate i no what im on about just not the propa terms found it out on uncle b's thread some good info if you can put up with all the shit.
 
Fuck toppin unless your startin from seed ive done tests always with clones same nutes same temp same the whole shabang and if your wantin to increase yeild lst or supercroppin is the only way to do it toppin will not get u the same size bud as the dominant 1 u removed wen doin so i done over 20+ grows trying to master yeild for each method and believe me the only way your gainin more is from the 2 techniques mentioned !!
 
PUKKA BUD said:
If you'd of took A of that in veg you would end up with about 10 pairs of nodes 20 colas it speads out to them all not just B. no way they would turn out as fat as that main cola or every fucker would top above the 10th node an have 20 huge colas. once you start goin over maybe the 4th node buds start gettin smaller an no where near the the size of the main 1 i lernt this a long time ago no need to draw me pics mate i no what im on about just not the propa terms found it out on uncle b's thread some good info if you can put up with all the shit.
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I did take it in veg (2 weeks ago) and no it didn't.

cheddar1985 said:
Fuck toppin unless your startin from seed ive done tests always with clones same nutes same temp same the whole shabang and if your wantin to increase yeild lst or supercroppin is the only way to do it toppin will not get u the same size bud as the dominant 1 u removed wen doin so i done over 20+ grows trying to master yeild for each method and believe me the only way your gainin more is from the 2 techniques mentioned !!
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This is not speculation or my opinion lads,it's biological fact.

Like I said if you wish to study the work by the professor of plant physiology at Harvard University which PROVES it then you can.
(Also the guy who discovered auxins in the first place)

http://archive.org/stream/phytohormones00went#page/n5/mode/2up

If you can't be arsed to educate yourselves then you can allways wait for these to finish and see for yourselves.
 
what this actually intelligent growing talk in the uk thread?!? lol

evening people.

im not 1 for topping, supercropping, scrogging etc. aint that i don't think they have there benefits is more that im a lazy bastard and just cant be arsed most i ever do is stake them up bout wk 3/4 of flower, and thats it.
 
newuserlol said:
what this actually intelligent growing talk in the uk thread?!? lol

evening people.

im not 1 for topping, supercropping, scrogging etc. aint that i don't think they have there benefits is more that im a lazy bastard and just cant be arsed most i ever do is stake them up bout wk 3/4 of flower, and thats it.
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i know mate sum intelectual shit!!! best be careful or people with think we actually know what wer talking about
 
what ya up 2 ic3?

whats on the watching list 2night m8? i watched the last episode of games of thrones season 2 yday was good but the books sooooooo much better, watched a interview with the writer aswel was suprised at how he looked i dunno just thought he would look different than he did.
 
I met a fairy today who granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said.
"Sorry," said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that."
"Fine," I said, "I want to die when England win the euros"
"You crafty cunt!" said the fairy.
 
The Yorkshireman said:
I did take it in veg (2 weeks ago) and no it didn't.



This is not speculation or my opinion lads,it's biological fact.

Like I said if you wish to study the work by the professor of plant physiology at Harvard University which PROVES it then you can.
(Also the guy who discovered auxins in the first place)

http://archive.org/stream/phytohormones00went#page/n5/mode/2up

If you can't be arsed to educate yourselves then you can allways wait for these to finish and see for yourselves.
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Lmao yorkie lad im a man that does shit not one that says it does work lmfao top the fuckers as much as u like believe me i get more from lst or supercroppin than i would if i topped !! Why is this!! av u the answer for this???????? Wen you ve mastered a strain come back tell me that toppin gets u more lmfao and to say u get the same size cola than you do wen untopped is fuckin childish lad no1 on the planet could say that as the cut the main tip off ya mad cunt !! Proffessor my arse lmfao rofl and yes i read those a few yrs back did i learn anythin?? No
 
newuserlol said:
what ya up 2 ic3?

whats on the watching list 2night m8? i watched the last episode of games of thrones season 2 yday was good but the books sooooooo much better, watched a interview with the writer aswel was suprised at how he looked i dunno just thought he would look different than he did.
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well im just starting sn 3 of sons of anarchy,got game of thrones complete to watch yet and just downloading thi
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looks orite tbh got blurau of clash of the titns to watch too
 
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