^ Correct. Theres a million ways to skin a cat. Myself as well, ANYTHING I put in those rapid rooters, be it cannabis seeds or just some regular old nasturtium for my garden, sprouts. These things are unreal. I am absolutely dying to try this shoebox method. I've been firmly under the impression that cloning machines and all that other stuff are pretty much pointless. Its pretty much how we clone in the greenhouses at my work. LOVE IT. Big thanks to all who provided input in this thread. You all rock.