Why bash Islam?

[Hepheastus420]

Yes, the quotes are true but we must remember that not all Muslims are strict fundamentalists and many are peace loving people who disagree with terrorism just as much as non-muslims do.

I simply can't tar all Muslims with the same brush. After being lucky enough to see a bit of the World and learning that Malaysia is perhaps one of the most peaceful countries that I have ever visited, I realised that this 'Muslim' country could teach other countries a lot about living in religious/ racial harmony.

But I'm not talking about the country or people. I'm saying those teachings should be illegal. They have strong impact on people and if the teachings say to kill, a large majority of followers will kill. Those are horrible teachings IMO. The followers, I can't say much. The followers are probably good people, but it doesn't change the fact that those are seriously evil teachings.

 

[lahadaextranjera]

But I'm not talking about the country or people. I'm saying those teachings should be illegal. They have strong impact on people and if the teachings say to kill, a large majority of followers will kill. Those are horrible teachings IMO. The followers, I can't say much. The followers are probably good people, but it doesn't change the fact that those are seriously evil teachings.

How can you make a 'Bible' illegal ? It would be impossible to extract the 'unpopular pages' from the Quaran!! The difference is that no matter what country a Muslim chooses to practice in, this doesn't make them the next candidate for a Jihad Camp.

Fundmentalist camps such as these have been praying on the young and naive for years to commit themselves to become martyrs - this is wrong.

 

[lahadaextranjera]

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

this thread is full of biased winning, one piece of evidence is the end all be all of proof that Islam is evil, and the other piece of evidence that says otherwise,well that doesn't count

what a facade

things white Europeans/Americans/christian/Catholics have done Spanish inquisition, manifest destiny , trail of tears, Salem witch trials, carpet napalming of communist controlled Vietnam, Women's suffrage, African American civil rights, MK ultra test in France, the boxer rebellion and many many more in the recent past

where is your hate for these criminal acts against humanity

 

[lahadaextranjera]

It's like fashion. We go round in circles !!

 

[1Shot1Kill]

this thread is full of biased winning, one piece of evidence is the end all be all of proof that Islam is evil, and the other piece of evidence that says otherwise,well that doesn't count

what a facade

things white Europeans/Americans/christian/Catholics have done Spanish inquisition, manifest destiny , trail of tears, Salem witch trials, carpet napalming of communist controlled Vietnam, Women's suffrage, African American civil rights, MK ultra test in France, the boxer rebellion and im sure many many more

where is your hate for these criminal acts against humanity

Watch the videos that i posted... They speak for themselves

 

[Hepheastus420]

How can you make a 'Bible' illegal ? It would be impossible to extract the 'unpopular pages' from the Quaran!! The difference is that no matter what country a Muslim chooses to practice in, this doesn't make them the next candidate for a Jihad Camp.

Fundmentalist camps such as these have been praying on the young and naive for years to commit themselves to become martyrs - this is wrong.

It would be hard to make it illegal. But still, it's a book that deserves nothing less than being burned. To enforce the law, it could be illegal to sell any qurans or make them.

Sure people can cherry pick which parts of the quran they want to believe in, but the teachings are still evil. The quran wants people to kill each other. If the follower doesn't want to kill, good on them. But the book does.


I'm just saying fuck islamic teachings. They're disgusting.

 

[lahadaextranjera]

It would be hard to make it illegal. But still, it's a book that deserves nothing less than being burned. To enforce the law, it could be illegal to sell any qurans or make them.

Sure people can cherry pick which parts of the quran they want to believe in, but the teachings are still evil. The quran wants people to kill each other. If the follower doesn't want to kill, good on them. But the book does.


I'm just saying fuck islamic teachings. They're disgusting.

I don't go into Mosques but I'm quite sure that they are not pro-terrorist. These fundamentalist followers have their own preachers, such as Abu Hamza who the UK have been trying to deport and until recently with little success. Certain preachers are in the street with their misguided congregation, there's plenty on 'You Tube' with videos of them taking their shoes off in the street as if it was inside a Mosque.

My ex-flatmate was an Egyptian student doctor (+10 yrs ago) and he was the most peace loving guy and he even smoked MJ too. I've had other Muslim friends and sadly even saw them divided from their own Indian (Hindu) friends after 9/11. I strongly believe that most Muslims have felt disgraced by the small disruptive minority of fundamentalists as it has given their 'version' of the religion a bad name.

The jihad teachings are sick, I do agree there.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

i dont need to be persuaded by propaganda that only shows one sided view of a religion as the proof of evil

i know there can be great evil done through any religion, and that it is in the mind of the individual that a choice has to be made

"There shall be no infliction of harm on oneself or others""

"When you restrain yourself from harming others, your action constitutes an act of benefaction that is credited to you"

but these quotes dont count right, cause some other Islamic guy/girl said and did something else

i get the distrust and hatred,but at least read the book, before you judge those who have never read the Qur'an and probably only hear the same kind of hate the trog is quoting . . .from their own religious leaders,it is shameful to twist the words to fit a one sided view to persuade others without a broader underatnding

context matters to the confused mind . .. . i just think that understanding why is more important that accepting that yes some Islamics views are dangerous, but so is a pocket knife if used irresponsibly

 

[Hepheastus420]

I don't go into Mosques but I'm quite sure that they are not pro-terrorist. These fundamentalist followers have their own preachers, such as Abu Hamza who the UK have been trying to deport and until recently with little success. Certain preachers are in the street with their misguided congregation, there's plenty on 'You Tube' with videos of them taking their shoes off in the street as if it was inside a Mosque.

My ex-flatmate was an Egyptian student doctor (+10 yrs ago) and he was the most peace loving guy and he even smoked MJ too. I've had other Muslim friends and sadly even saw them divided from their own Indian (Hindu) friends after 9/11. I strongly believe that most Muslims have felt disgraced by the small disruptive minority of fundamentalists as it has given their 'version' of the religion a bad name.

The jihad teachings are sick, I do agree there.

I'm not talking about the followers. I'm only talking about the teachings. I know plenty of muslims who are good people. The quran is crap though.

 

[Hepheastus420]

i dont need to be suede by propaganda that only shows one sided view of a religion as the proof of evil

i know there can be great evil done through any religion, and that it is in the mind of the individual that a choice has to be made

"There shall be no infliction of harm on oneself or others""

"When you restrain yourself from harming others, your action constitutes an act of benefaction that is credited to you"

but these quotes dont count right, cause some other Islamic guy/girl said and did something else

i get the distrust and hatred,but at least read the book, before you judge those who have never read the Qur'an and probably only here the same kind of hate the trog is quoting . . context matters to the confused mind . .. . i just think that understanding why is more important that accepting that yes some Islamics are dangerous, but so is a pocket knife if used irresponsibly

A pocket knife doesn't tell you to kill to go to heaven.

And scrog is spreading hate. But only hate that came from the quran.

I will not read a book that has those rules that scrog has posted in it. That book is filled with hate. Sure it might have some good morals and lessons but all in all, it will lead to many deaths.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

its not about reading and accepting its about knowledge

\and not blindly believing something like a extremist ready to blow himself up

how many "savages" have been killed by Christians just because they are not alike

come on heph

i got three childhood friends that died in IRAQ and a couple others who didnt come back the same , i get it and when i was mad about it, i went to try and understand why, and i found out that those willing to harm others in the name of the Qur'an are about confused as you can get, and ya that doesn't make it ok, but understanding there is a system there set up to breed this mis information. education is the key and getting over foreign policies, some things you can change and effect like yourself and others will follow by your example

others lead with fear and only control those around them for personal gain

 

[lahadaextranjera]

I'm not talking about the followers. I'm only talking about the teachings. I know plenty of muslims who are good people. The quran is crap though.

Ok, but how can u have followers without teaching? How can u have a bible which has been manipulated - kind of defeats the object.

Maybe not all Muslims are sheep and believe/read every word. Maybe some don't want to meet the Nuns !!

 

[Hepheastus420]

its not about reading and accepting its about knowledge

\and not blindly believing something like a extremist ready to blow himself up

how many "savages" have been killed by Christians just because they are not alike

come on heph

i got three childhood friends that died in IRAQ and a couple others who didnt come back the same , i get it and when i was mad about it, i went to try and understand why, and i found out that those willing to harm others in the name of the Qur'an are about confused as you can get, and ya that doesn't make it ok, but understanding there is a system there set up to breed this mis information. education is the key and getting over foreign policies, some things you can change and effect like yourself and others will follow by your example

others lead with fear and only control those around them for personal gain

Why would I try to gain knowledge from a book that tells people to kill each other?

I know those people are confused. I feel bad for them. That's why I believe the quran is a load of horse poo. It's tricking these people into killing each other. Yes, there's smart people that don't just go blow themselves up, but there's also dumb people that do. And the ONLY reason they do suicide bombings and stupid stuff like that is because of the quran. I blame the quran for all the bad things these people do. It's not the people that are bad, it's the leader (in this case the quran).

That Quran = Evil teachings in my eyes.

I hope people could take a look at it and realize that the book is crazy.

Sorry if I'm offending anybody.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

no no not offending me at all, im actually very intrigued by this

you claim to know all about the teachings but you haven't read the book . . .are you just assuming that the Qur'an is the only religious text that has hypocritical parts to it about how to treat others

i have read both the bible and most (not all of it) of the Qur'an, there is just as much hate in either book and there is just as much good, these guides are not written like the ten commandments, it aint a lit of what to do and what not to do, they are stories of trials and tribulations, and not all of them are nice

 

[cannabineer]

The Bible commits the same, uhm, sins against human sense. This is not unique to Islam, or even more so in Islam than in Judaism and Christianity. cn

 

[Winter Woman]

Yes, the quotes are true but we must remember that not all Muslims are strict fundamentalists and many are peace loving people who disagree with terrorism just as much as non-muslims do.

I simply can't tar all Muslims with the same brush. After being lucky enough to see a bit of the World and learning that Malaysia is perhaps one of the most peaceful countries that I have ever visited, I realised that this 'Muslim' country could teach other countries a lot about living in religious/ racial harmony.

Don't get caught with any mj.

 

[Hepheastus420]

Ok, but how can u have followers without teaching? How can u have a bible which has been manipulated - kind of defeats the object.

Maybe not all Muslims are sheep and believe/read every word. Maybe some don't want to meet the Nuns !!

There should be no followers of a hateful religion. There should be no book that teaches millions to kill. I hope the object is defeated so people can open their eyes and never have to fight and kill over religion.

I know for a fact that not all muslims believe every word of the quran. That is damn great. But it doesn't mean that the quran is a good thing. It's an evil manipulative book that deserves to be burned for teaching others to kill.

 

[Hepheastus420]

The Bible commits the same, uhm, sins against human sense. This is not unique to Islam, or even more so in Islam than in Judaism and Christianity. cn

Yes, but we are talking about the Quran here neer. We'll go onto christianity in a bit .

 

[cannabineer]

Malaysia and Indonesia do have rather strict laws governing drugs.
They're not especially tolerant of alcohol use, either. cn
https://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/malaysia-sentence-another-caning-shariah-law-drinking-alcohol-20090915