Why bash Islam?

WA1PAHUboi

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all i kno bout muslem is they bow to a black rock and read from the quaran
the quaran teaches its followers alot, alot to have over a million followers, so ther doing a good job at that.
quaran teaches "death to infidels" as the bible teaches "hell to sinners". so this is a good subject to discus to pothead cuz im sure they got some crazy shit to say,
keep this thread alive and away from spam

I'm willing to discuss this subjectin terms of facts and not fictions.
 

Metasynth

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Internet skills? Did I type faster or something? If anything, I bested you with decent points that affect me in reality. I have to see my friends fall victim to this religion crap and it sucks.
Ignnoring that, I didn't best you. We have different views.

Why are you so caught on with this being the internet? I feel like you want nobody to talk about anything important. Yeah I know this isn't reality but can't we still discuss mature topics?

Good talk, a sandwhich sounds good.
Decent points that affect you in reality...like what? Damn Hep, you threatened by islamic extremists? I didn't know you got down like that.
 

scroglodyte

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Under Islamic law, jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزية‎ ǧizyah IPA: [dʒizja]; Ottoman Turkish: cizye; both derived from Pahlavi and possibly from Aramaic gaziyat[SUP][1][/SUP]) is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria. The tax is and was to be levied on able-bodied adult males of military age and affording power[SUP][2][/SUP] (but with specific exemptions).[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] From the point of view of the Muslim rulers, jizya was a material proof of the non-Muslims' acceptance of subjection to the state and its laws, "just as for the inhabitants it was a concrete continuation of the taxes paid to earlier regimes."[SUP][5][/SUP] In return, non-Muslim citizens were permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to the Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, and to be exempted from military service and the zakat taxes obligatory upon Muslim citizens.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP]
 

Metasynth

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all i kno bout muslem is they bow to a black rock and read from the quaran
the quaran teaches its followers alot, alot to have over a million followers, so ther doing a good job at that.
quaran teaches "death to infidels" as the bible teaches "hell to sinners". so this is a good subject to discus to pothead cuz im sure they got some crazy shit to say,
keep this thread alive and away from spam
Like comparing apples to apples....All organized religion is a device to control the behavior of the unintelligent masses.
 

Hepheastus420

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Decent points that affect you in reality...like what? Damn Hep, you threatened by islamic extremists? I didn't know you got down like that.
lol. No sir, but there are wars that kill real people over the subjects that we are talking about. I've seen people begin to dislike each other over religion. Sometimes I don't like admitting I'm agnostic around people because they begin to feel weird and view me diferently.

So yeah. Sure this is the internet, but not everything has to be a joke. Though jokes are usually appreciated.
 

Metasynth

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lol. No sir, but there are wars that kill real people over the subjects that we are talking about. I've seen people begin to dislike each other over religion. Sometimes I don't like admitting I'm agnostic around people because they begin to feel weird and view me diferently.

So yeah. Sure this is the internet, but not everything has to be a joke. Though jokes are usually appreciated.
Haha...you're experiencing prejeduce based on beliefs? Welcome to the world! Damn bro, open your eyes. This isn't some fantasy utopian paradise, this is the REAL WORLD, with death and prejeduce and racism and sexism, and bigotry. You're gonna tell me that relegious prejeduce affects you? And that there is WAR in the world? Let me shed some crocodile tears for you. This isn't shit, people aren't shit, earth isn't shit in the infinate expanse of what we know as the universe.

I'm sorry, I wouldn't consider this as directly affecting your life, but rather life itself.
 

Metasynth

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No, not gullible. Stupid. People who dogmatically follow any belief system are not intelligent enough to think for themselves. Those who challenge religion with an open mind rarely stay religious for long, and it takes an intelligent person to challenge their core beliefs with an open mind and the willingness to make decisions based on what they discover.
 

Hepheastus420

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Haha...you're experiencing prejeduce based on beliefs? Welcome to the world! Damn bro, open your eyes. This isn't some fantasy utopian paradise, this is the REAL WORLD, with death and prejeduce and racism and sexism, and bigotry. You're gonna tell me that relegious prejeduce affects you? And that there is WAR in the world? Let me shed some crocodile tears for you. This isn't shit, people aren't shit, earth isn't shit in the infinate expanse of what we know as the universe.

I'm sorry, I wouldn't consider this as directly affecting your life, but rather life itself.
You asked so I told you. The topic of religion does affect me no matter how miniscule it is compared to space.

Who said anything about fantasy?

Going by your logic, your words aren't shit. So why did you post them? Your point defeats itself.
 

Hepheastus420

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No, not gullible. Stupid. People who dogmatically follow any belief system are not intelligent enough to think for themselves. Those who challenge religion with an open mind rarely stay religious for long, and it takes an intelligent person to challenge their core beliefs with an open mind and the willingness to make decisions based on what they discover.
There's plenty of intelligent religious minds that prove your point wrong.
 

Metasynth

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You asked so I told you. The topic of religion does affect me no matter how miniscule it is compared to space.

Who said anything about fantasy?

Going by your logic, your words aren't shit. So why did you post them? Your point defeats itself.
I'm just saying, welcome to the big leagues. It's a shitty, fucked up world out there...I commend you for still being innocent enough to believe in the good of humanity.
 

Hepheastus420

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I'm just saying, welcome to the big leagues. It's a shitty, fucked up world out there...I commend you for still being innocent enough to believe in the good of humanity.
Who said I believe in the good of humanity? Obviously I'm the one that pointed out that these religious nut jobs kill each other. Is that innocent?

You act like you're the most experienced man in the world. Get over yourself dude.. Just saying.
 

Metasynth

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There's plenty of intelligent religious minds that prove your point wrong.
While I'm sure there are plenty of intelligent religious minds that could prove their point, they cannot prove me wrong. Not unless they can ALSO prove there is some divine sentient being who plays a role in our lives by observing and altering our reality.
 

Hepheastus420

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While I'm sure there are plenty of intelligent religious minds that could prove their point, they cannot prove me wrong. Not unless they can ALSO prove there is some divine sentient being who plays a role in our lives by observing and altering our reality.
You're moving the goal post. You said that they're stupid. That was your initial statement. I didn't say that they could prove god is real (which they can't), I just said that they can be intelligent.
 

Metasynth

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You're moving the goal post. You said that they're stupid. That was your initial statement. I didn't say that they could prove god is real (which they can't), I just said that they can be intelligent.
I said unintelligent masses...keyword being masses. Yes, there are intelligent individuals, but that is not the standard. Moving the goal post? No, I stand by what I said. Religion IS a device designed to weild control over the unintelligent masses of people who have nothing else to believe in.
 

Metasynth

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Hep, I'm not going to argue my opinion of religion with you. I think people who DOGMATICALLY FOLLOW ORGANIZED RELIGION are not intelligent enough to know better...I also think peanut butter is nasty...Try to argue that peanut butter tastes good....Please....Not gonna change my opinion.
 

Hepheastus420

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I said unintelligent masses...keyword being masses. Yes, there are intelligent individuals, but that is not the standard. Moving the goal post? No, I stand by what I said. Religion IS a device designed to weild control over the unintelligent masses of people who have nothing else to believe in.
Well stupid is just an opinion. So I suppose you're right on this one.
 
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