teabagger alert! – “I’m moving to Canada, the United States is too socialist"

[BadDog40]

The level of debt IS new. Repeating the same falsehood doesn't make it true, it just makes you look stupid.

The level of debt was 112.7% of GDP in 1945.

It is now 103% of GDP.

You should learn facts before calling others stupid, braniac.

 

[ChesusRice]

Yes, but S&P ratings are of dubious value in any case. Those CDOs that drove the mortgage crisis usually got excellent ratings even as they unraveled. S&P do not behave like true independents. cn

Well actually

The S&P analysis was 2 trillion off
When the error was pointed out
They doubled down by saying
It wasnt a financial reason for downgrading
It was a political one

And they blamed the Republicans in congress

 

[Red1966]

. Healthcare providers set the prices Not the goverment

Apparently you are completely unfamiliar with Medicare and Medicaid. They set rates by decree. Fewer and fewer providers are accepting those patients.

 

[ChesusRice]

Apparently you are completely unfamiliar with Medicare and Medicaid. They set rates by decree. Fewer and fewer providers are accepting those patients.

Medicare and Medicaid
Pay less than what doctors want

Which is exactly what my insurance company does
I look at my insurance billing
Insurance companys pay set amounts for procedures
Doctors either accept it and get paid
Or fight it and lose money

 

[Mr Neutron]

Charles Dickens was writing about a time before Health insurance
when there was no "guberment" interference with healthcare

Without a operation tiny tims family couldnt afford and insurance Scrooge didnt carry for his employees
Tiny tim was gonna die

Is that your vision for America?

So glad you moved to Mexico
Which is funny
They have goverment healthcare there
Which even you can get as a non citizen

Really? Do tell me more. Apparently you know so much more about it. Where does a non citizen go for this government healthcare?

 

[Red1966]

apart from letting people who can't pay die how does your system of healthcare improve transplant rates? it didn't have to be my wife for me to point out your idiocy

You answered a question, not addressed to you, with a statement that necessitates a time period with a campaign talking point that in no way satisfies the question. Who's the idiot?

 

[deprave]

Really? Do tell me more. Apparently you know so much more about it. Where does a non citizen go for this government healthcare?

 

[ChesusRice]

Really? Do tell me more. Apparently you know so much more about it. Where does a non citizen go for this government healthcare?

MEXICO CITY — It sounds almost too good to be true: a
health care plan with no limits, no deductibles, free medicines, tests, X-rays,
eyeglasses, even dental work — all for a flat fee of $250 or less a year.

To get it, you just have to move to Mexico.


As the United States debates an overhaul of its health care
system, thousands of American retirees in Mexico have quietly found a solution
of their own, signing up for the health care plan run by the Mexican Social
Security Institute.

The system has flaws, the facilities aren't cutting-edge,
and the deal may not last long because the Mexican government said in a recent
report that it is "notorious" for losing money. But for now, retirees say
they're getting a bargain.

"It was one of the primary reasons I moved here," said Judy
Harvey of Prescott Valley, who now lives in Alamos, Sonora. "I couldn't afford
health care in the United States. … To me, this is the best system that there
is."



It's unclear how many Americans use IMSS, but with between
40,000 and 80,000 U.S. retirees living in Mexico, the number probably runs "well
into the thousands," said David Warner, a public policy professor at the
University of Texas.

"They take very good care of us," said Jessica Moyal, 59,
of Hollywood, Fla., who now lives in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, a popular
retirement enclave for Americans

 

[ChesusRice]

[h=2]IMSS is Available to Foreigners[/h] To Understand how IMSS works, see the article below "Health care in Mexico: How the IMSS works" By Michael Forbes,Guadalajara Reporter, Friday, March 04 2011
To join the system you must:

• Have valid visa - FM2, FM3 or Inmigrado status
• Prove Citizenship (Passport)
• Marital Status (Certificate)
• Birth Certificate
• Complete Application Form
• Provide two pictures

Julie Vargas ([email protected]), our immigration expert, can help you with signing up for the IMSS. She does charge a fee, but if you don't speak Spanish, it's well worth the money.
Note! There is no age limit. There are some limitations regarding pre-existing conditions and you will learn all these details and more on a Focus Program. The cost for IMSS is on a per person basis and varies, dependant on age, from $100 to $300 USD per year. Although they quote the coverage as “all inclusive,” most foreigners (Mexpats) use IMSS coverage for emergencies, but for day-to-day issues, they use local doctors who charge by the visit.
The coverage is quite broad and includes consultations, tests, hospitalization, surgery and medicines. It also includes basic dental and optical; but only within the IMSS structure - their doctors, clinics and hospitals.
After you receive your card, you need to go to the local IMSS clinic so that they can assign you to a Doctor, as well as the time (morning or afternoon) when you can be seen for an appointment.

You will need to take the following with you:

• IMMS cards given to you when you register
• Validation of payment
• Your health questionnaire…if you have used an agent to help make the process easier, make sure you get a copy of this form to take with you.

The new Chapala IMSS (Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social) clinic is at 95 La Estacion—turn left at the recently refurbished old railroad station and go four blocks or so.
If you do not speak Spanish, you will need to take someone with you to all appointments. In the first level of IMSS, very few people speak English. You walk into the building and head upstairs to sign in. Turn to your right once you get upstairs. There will be a lady sitting at the desk to whom you will give your paperwork.
There are some drawbacks to IMSS and you will get the whole story from our health care expert on one of the Focus on Mexico programs. Our Expert Speakers do not speak through rose-colored glasses. You'll get the good and bad so you can make an informed decision. It’s important for you to get the pros and the cons.
As with many government run Health Care institutions, the IMSS is not without its bureaucracy. Most foreigners will take the IMSS plan and use it strictly for emergencies. Then they sign up for the Maskaras Clinic Discount Program to cover their day to day issues and annual checkups,

 

[Red1966]

The level of debt was 112.7% of GDP in 1945. It is now 103% of GDP. You should learn facts before calling others stupid, braniac.

Yeah, after fighting WWII. We paid that debt down. We didn't continue spending money hand over fist after the war was over, until LBJ. You are stupid, don't blame me for pointing it out.

 

[ChesusRice]

Ok I have done enough procrastinating
Back outside stripping paint in 100 degree weather

BTW
I am doing this becuase a republican run city is demanding I chip and paint my house
Even before I get the rest of the new windows in
If I dont I will get fined 10 bucks a day that it isnt painted
Fucking conservatives

 

[Red1966]

Well actually The S&P analysis was 2 trillion off When the error was pointed out They doubled down by saying It wasnt a financial reason for downgrading It was a political one And they blamed the Republicans in congress

Liar, they blamed all of Congress. Nowhere in their statement do they single out either party. If you must resort to lies to support your argument, you've already lost.

 

[ChesusRice]

IMSS is Available to Foreigners

To Understand how IMSS works, see the article below "Health care in Mexico: How the IMSS works" By Michael Forbes,Guadalajara Reporter, Friday, March 04 2011
To join the system you must:

• Have valid visa - FM2, FM3 or Inmigrado status
• Prove Citizenship (Passport)
• Marital Status (Certificate)
• Birth Certificate
• Complete Application Form
• Provide two pictures

Julie Vargas ([email protected]), our immigration expert, can help you with signing up for the IMSS. She does charge a fee, but if you don't speak Spanish, it's well worth the money.
Note! There is no age limit. There are some limitations regarding pre-existing conditions and you will learn all these details and more on a Focus Program. The cost for IMSS is on a per person basis and varies, dependant on age, from $100 to $300 USD per year. Although they quote the coverage as “all inclusive,” most foreigners (Mexpats) use IMSS coverage for emergencies, but for day-to-day issues, they use local doctors who charge by the visit.
The coverage is quite broad and includes consultations, tests, hospitalization, surgery and medicines. It also includes basic dental and optical; but only within the IMSS structure - their doctors, clinics and hospitals.
After you receive your card, you need to go to the local IMSS clinic so that they can assign you to a Doctor, as well as the time (morning or afternoon) when you can be seen for an appointment.

You will need to take the following with you:

• IMMS cards given to you when you register
• Validation of payment
• Your health questionnaire…if you have used an agent to help make the process easier, make sure you get a copy of this form to take with you.

The new Chapala IMSS (Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social) clinic is at 95 La Estacion—turn left at the recently refurbished old railroad station and go four blocks or so.
If you do not speak Spanish, you will need to take someone with you to all appointments. In the first level of IMSS, very few people speak English. You walk into the building and head upstairs to sign in. Turn to your right once you get upstairs. There will be a lady sitting at the desk to whom you will give your paperwork.
There are some drawbacks to IMSS and you will get the whole story from our health care expert on one of the Focus on Mexico programs. Our Expert Speakers do not speak through rose-colored glasses. You'll get the good and bad so you can make an informed decision. It’s important for you to get the pros and the cons.
As with many government run Health Care institutions, the IMSS is not without its bureaucracy. Most foreigners will take the IMSS plan and use it strictly for emergencies. Then they sign up for the Maskaras Clinic Discount Program to cover their day to day issues and annual checkups,

Hey Mr. Neutron

Dont I even get a free "like" for this info?

 

[ChesusRice]

Liar, they blamed all of Congress. Nowhere in their statement do they single out either party. If you must resort to lies to support your argument, you've already lost.

Not what their report said

And you were blaming obama
Not congress

 

[UncleBuck]

Who's the idiot?

the guy who works with nobel prize winners but can't spell the word 'compliment'.

 

[Winter Woman]

lol when thesithitsthefan in america its a recession

but when the same shithitsthefan in europe its because they're stupid

thats some pretty special thinking you got going there ww do you practice to keep your intelect so sharp?

I didn't say we were immune. They are the first to go. With the leadership we have now it's just a matter of time.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yeah, after fighting WWII. We paid that debt down. We didn't continue spending money hand over fist after the war was over, until LBJ. You are stupid, don't blame me for pointing it out.

i had no idea ronald reagan was spelled "LBJ".

 

[kelly4]

Ok I have done enough procrastinating
Back outside stripping paint in 100 degree weather

BTW
I am doing this becuase a republican run city is demanding I chip and paint my house
Even before I get the rest of the new windows in
If I dont I will get fined 10 bucks a day that it isnt painted
Fucking conservatives

Then move.

 

[FlyLikeAnEagle]

Yeah, after fighting WWII. We paid that debt down. We didn't continue spending money hand over fist after the war was over, until LBJ. You are stupid, don't blame me for pointing it out.

Were you not arguing that the debt has never been as high as it is now? You got owned and now you back pedal and call him stupid. Classic!

 

[Mr Neutron]

IMSS is Available to Foreigners

To Understand how IMSS works, see the article below "Health care in Mexico: How the IMSS works" By Michael Forbes,Guadalajara Reporter, Friday, March 04 2011
To join the system you must:

• Have valid visa - FM2, FM3 or Inmigrado status
• Prove Citizenship (Passport)
• Marital Status (Certificate)
• Birth Certificate
• Complete Application Form
• Provide two pictures

Julie Vargas ([email protected]), our immigration expert, can help you with signing up for the IMSS. She does charge a fee, but if you don't speak Spanish, it's well worth the money.
Note! There is no age limit. There are some limitations regarding pre-existing conditions and you will learn all these details and more on a Focus Program. The cost for IMSS is on a per person basis and varies, dependant on age, from $100 to $300 USD per year. Although they quote the coverage as “all inclusive,” most foreigners (Mexpats) use IMSS coverage for emergencies, but for day-to-day issues, they use local doctors who charge by the visit.
The coverage is quite broad and includes consultations, tests, hospitalization, surgery and medicines. It also includes basic dental and optical; but only within the IMSS structure - their doctors, clinics and hospitals.
After you receive your card, you need to go to the local IMSS clinic so that they can assign you to a Doctor, as well as the time (morning or afternoon) when you can be seen for an appointment.

You will need to take the following with you:

• IMMS cards given to you when you register
• Validation of payment
• Your health questionnaire…if you have used an agent to help make the process easier, make sure you get a copy of this form to take with you.

The new Chapala IMSS (Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social) clinic is at 95 La Estacion—turn left at the recently refurbished old railroad station and go four blocks or so.
If you do not speak Spanish, you will need to take someone with you to all appointments. In the first level of IMSS, very few people speak English. You walk into the building and head upstairs to sign in. Turn to your right once you get upstairs. There will be a lady sitting at the desk to whom you will give your paperwork.
There are some drawbacks to IMSS and you will get the whole story from our health care expert on one of the Focus on Mexico programs. Our Expert Speakers do not speak through rose-colored glasses. You'll get the good and bad so you can make an informed decision. It’s important for you to get the pros and the cons.
As with many government run Health Care institutions, the IMSS is not without its bureaucracy. Most foreigners will take the IMSS plan and use it strictly for emergencies. Then they sign up for the Maskaras Clinic Discount Program to cover their day to day issues and annual checkups,

Interesting. The link doesn't work but I didn't know that. The thing is, I don't spend that much now on medical, so it wouldn't be good for me. In fact, I didn't spend that much on medical when I lived in the states.
As for your intended trap, nice try.