The Science of Interconnectedness.

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

An amazing world view on how there truly is no such thing as being separate from anything in the universe. Dr. Rupert Sheldrake explains his scientific theory of interconnectedness that skeptics find so hard to accept do to their materialistic beliefs.

I feel no need to debate on this one because Sheldrake does it so beautifully already lol. At the bottom of the article there is a link to Sheldrakes website where he has more than a few debates hosted by well respected skeptical scientists (click "dialogues and controversies)". The majority of the audiences for these debates usually side with Sheldrake.

He even has a short discussion with Richard Dawkins who had a dogmatic agenda planned for Sheldrake but the discussion was cut short because Dawkins refused to talk about evidence for Sheldrakes theories because it didnt sit well with his "Enemies of Reason" project.

Poke around both websites, theres great stuff on both. Heres the link to the article. Tell me what ya think!

http://mindbook.ws/page/the-science-of-interconnectedness

 

[Heisenberg]

An amazing world view on how there truly is no such thing as being separate from anything in the universe. Dr. Rupert Sheldrake explains his scientific theory of interconnectedness that skeptics find so hard to accept do to their materialistic beliefs.

Poison the well much?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Poison the well much?

Not really, thats what to be expected in that article. On his website he talks about healthy skepticism and how he was attacked and ridiculed but not disproved by scientists who wont even consider such theories because its one that doesnt fall into the materialistic paradigm.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Poison the well much?

Omfg this makes me horny. Lol! I love your posts.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

What is the thing called that is inbetween atoms? It's called space. No matter what you say Cheif, no matter how you feel, or the so called experiences you have had, you have no knowledge, nor proof, of everything being "interconnected" on an atomic level.

Yes, as far as we humans can tell, we all did come from the same stuffs of the universe, from the same point in spacetime that began spacetime, the big bang.

This in no means nor measure can exemplify the theory that we are all "interconnected" whether it be some sort of imaginary supernatural spiritual level, or an atomic level.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Bro... That story... It is cool.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

How can you, or anyone for that matter, be certain of anything? You, nor anyone else, can be. If you claim to be, you, and everyone else the wiser, will know you are a liar.

Not saying you are a liar, one love. But that when we tell ourselves we are certain of something we cannot be certain of... that is called lying.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Like being certain that materialism is all there is to prove what is real? Or if gods real, its certain that no religion has any knowledge of him/her?

How about we keep this from turning into a shit show for once. I didnt throw the first rocks this time, I just stated what was already stated in the article. That this theory does not fall under materialistic paradigm thus resulting in ignorance by those who are so proud to hold that belief. Read the article and go to his website and check out the controversies section and listen to a debate hosted by skeptics that fail to disprove him in any way.

Im being a good boy this time, just playing by the rules is all. The fact that this theory doesnt fall under the materialist world view should not be offensive in anyway, since you should be uncertain that materialistic science is the best form of knowledge.

 

[cannabineer]

If this is indeed a science, why would we need to learn about it on woo sites like Mindbook? I see an article that's long on a blend of hypothesis and a recasting of magical terms in pseudomaterial terminology, and no emphasis at all on test. cn

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Ah yes, a website that promotes spirituality, science, and knowledge is woo because it uses spirituality. Sheldrake is a real scientists who clashed heads with the likes of Richard Dawkins only for Dawkins to end the discussion because he only wanted to use biased and dogmatic tactics against Sheldrake and refused to discuss Sheldrakes controlled experiments and evidence. Dawkins knew that Sheldrakes evidence wouldnt look good for is tv show "Enemies Against Reason". If Sheldrake was really so illogical with his studies, why did Dawkins not want to discuss them? Go to the bottom of the article and click the link for Sheldrakes website and click on "Dialogues and Controversies" section and listen to a debate hosted by skeptics of higher stature then yourself and listen to them fail to dismantle Sheldrakes theories. The unbiased educated audiences of these debates tend to favor Sheldrake at the end of the debates and the well respected opposing skeptics hold strong to their "Nuh uhh!" stance. Sheldrake speaks of his evidence and controlled experiments on his website, failure to acknowledge that shows the same ignorance you showed when discussing unlimited/free energy with me. You dont want to know or even consider these things because that makes you happy and more comfortable about your world view.

 

[Heisenberg]

Funny how Chief is never wrong about any subject, and everyone who disagrees falls into the same tight-ass scientist category. Also funny how he never argues any subject directly, but instead prefers to attack motives and personalities. Even funner is how Chief thinks what's convincing to him should be convincing to everyone. Too bad he can't explain why without resorting to conspiracy and arrogance.

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Funny how you try to dictate discussions about spirituality with materialistic science and expect everyone to agree with your one dimensional concepts of the physical world lol. Funny how top scientists of the world actually take this guy seriously enough to debate him to no avail yet skeptics here ignorantly dismiss Sheldrake... Does one know if hes a pseudo-skeptic?

 

[dtp5150]

Bro... That story... It is cool.

this forum is plagued by quasi-intellectual-circle-jerking-trolls. great thread. thank you for expanding my knowledge. I knew its all about resonance. Ive said many times there is only one real truth, and it is honesty, and you know honesty by how it reverberates.

i have crazy sensitive ears. i can hear a mouse shit like 3 blocks away. its all about resonance.

know what doesnt resonate well? a judge"MENTAL" moderator

ive been sick of this heisenberg dude for a long time. welcome to the club!

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Yes! resonance is the shit. Theres so many truths to this world that skeptics fight tooth-n-nail because it doesnt have to do with narrow minded materialism. If only these materialists knew they were obsessed with an illusion of energy vibrating slowly enough to form matter. Matter is all that matters to them... Theres pretty much nothing you can say here without Strife saying "YOU DONT KNOW, YOU'RE A LIAR!" lol they are under the same delusion of certainty that they accuse everyone else of... But yeah, follow the good vibrations

 

[dtp5150]

so in a resonating wave, the positions of the particle are a probability, or no? its like an oscillating function

its almost like ANYTHING is possible, but its just a rating of probability. like the probability of my table being here was high, so its here (by chance). because there is also a probability of there being no table. but its not as high as the probability of the table resonating in my kitchen.

im totally theorizing here, i havent read that whole article yet.

 

[mindphuk]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Materialism
Methodological materialism is neither a belief nor an assumption but a restriction on method. Briefly stated it holds that a non-material assumption is not to be made. Science, for example, is necessarily methodologically materialist. Science wishes to describe and explain nature. Diversion into the “supernatural” begins to describe and explain matters that are not natural and obfuscate the natural.

Methodological materialism is a defining characteristic of science in the same way that “methodological woodism” is a defining characteristic of carpentry. Science seeks to construct natural explanations for natural phenomena in the same way that carpentry seeks to construct objects out of wood. In operating in this manner neither discipline denies the existence of supernatural forces or sheet plastics, their usefulness or validity. The use of either supernatural forces or sheet plastics is simply distinguished as belonging to separate disciplines.

Many scientists are also ontological materialists. Richard Dawkins espouses ontological materialism when he claims a completeness of science.
Both forms of materialism are very closely related to philosophical and methodological naturalism and at first glance seem almost identical. Materialism and naturalism differ only in that while naturalism assumes or studies the observable, materialism assumes or studies the observable and material. The difference is very, very small.
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So here we have CWE pointing to a ontological materialist, Dawkins and attempts to imply that all skeptics and scientists likewise hold an identical philosophy. Instead of merely discussing Sheldrake, he must take the opportunity to level attacks against science and skeptics conflating the necessary methodological materialism of science with philosophical materialism then whines and complains when others point it out and denies that he threw the first rocks. Denialism must be his philosophy.

 

[dtp5150]

mindphuk, get a new hobby besides being a chief harassing piece of shit. you are a great author. I liked your paragraph, that i can paraphrase as "blah"....lol do you really think anybody will read that crap, delusional freak

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

I heard similar concepts explained by a couple of people, this is the first scientist I heard talking about it. It does seem like endless possibilities open up with this concept. If this resonating field interacts with consciousness then perhaps you could call it a consciousness field too. Maybe someone who is a master of spirit and resonance can have some control of physical reality shits crazy lol. I think there were such people at some point of time though. I believe in Graham Hancocks extensive research on a lost god-like civilization, and that we are a species with amnesia that forgot what reality really is due to some cataclysmic event.

 

[dtp5150]

ive been obsessed with a symbol. draw a triangle inside a circle. then a circle inside the triangle. isnt that shit nuts. u can pretty much proof everything known by mathematicians to this day with that diagram. id say thats pretty fucking imporant. why am i discovering it now? ive got a notebook filled with graphs and proofs.

u can draw a peace sign with it

 

[dtp5150]

oh ya, then rotate the triangles and plot the points of the lines!

then realize u can draw triangles inside of circles inside of triangles, forever. and then they rotate, the triangles.

so ya, lol, its strange