The 12-12 From Seed Thread

B166ER420 said:
What's the worst that could happen if I started 12/12 early,I'm 2 weeks and 3 nodes after the cotyledon leaves.I have no experience w/autos or growing 12/12.Iwould appreciate some input since I'm in a hurry because of the holidays an such,besides I'll need some Christmas Bud:)thx for any help.
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If you have an auto you never need to switch to 12/12. going to 12/12 will only result in a loss of yield.
 
vinious said:
I just started my flush a few days ago...pulling a bit early but I am heading off for a trip in a few days don't want anyone to try and take care of it while im gone ...the last time i tried that i came home to 3 dead plants.View attachment 2313305View attachment 2313306View attachment 2313307
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Don't you just hate that ish,i told my uncle to take care of some plants for 2 funky ass days and he forgot :-| but didn't have a problem smoking my supply.Some people make you wanna POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER!!! but this is why growers try to stay independent.Nice ladies btw
 
Gonna be doing some AK48 from nirvana femenised 12/12 from seed soon after my auto grow i got at the moment. Really in two minds about it though, Dels pics are making me say yes, but even as he says, he doesnt show the failures.

IN GENERAL, how much yeild do you guys pull off a 12/12 from seed grow per plant? I know autos are generally regarded as being about 1.5 ounces if your lucky, on a bog standard set up. Im talking about in soil, say about 3 gal containers. Around 250w light.

THANKS for any replies to this comment, its much much appreciated
 
powerslide said:
When do most people go from solo cups to 1gal containers? And then into 3gal
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I go from solo cup to 7 gallons, 12/12 from seeds you dont have much time to build good root structure and you never want the plants to be root bounded. I just got started less than 6 months ago with the 12/12 from seeds and I had a couple 3oz and average around 2oz so far but if I wasnt putting so many plants in my room I could get better number per plants, In my experience, Supersoil and Big container is the way to go 12/12 from seed

This was one of my better ones: just over 3 oz but I needed weed and I harvested her at least 2 weeks prior to being ready:

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And here is my tent, won't be getting high number per plants here coze I got some low yielder but the one in the middle will be well over 2oz. there is 8 plants in this 3x3 tent
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I posted this video a while back, here it is again in case you missed it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5K8HgbBmI This is my best run ever, the buds are SO FROSTY !! 100% LED grown buds, FERO lights.
 
Trying 12/12 from CLONE now. Big concrete mixing tubs with coco and 12-15 plants in each, 10 day veg clones. 45 plants per 1000watt light.

Any tips? Is there a thread for doing 12/12 from Clone?
 
Lucius Vorenus said:
Trying 12/12 from CLONE now. Big concrete mixing tubs with coco and 12-15 plants in each, 10 day veg clones. 45 plants per 1000watt light.

Any tips? Is there a thread for doing 12/12 from Clone?
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Youre going to end up with small plants. 12/12 from seed and from clone are nothing alike. The time you spend rooting and vegging a clone you you would be further ahead starting from seed. A plant from seed will still mature as it grows and then flowers where the clone is going to go into flower without growing at all.

If you expect any kind of yield going 12/12 from clone I'd recommend growing them in a large soil bed and only spacing them about 4 inches apart. I've considered doing a grow like this myself but using feminized seeds 12/12 from the start and trimming down to single colas.
 
supchaka said:
Youre going to end up with small plants. 12/12 from seed and from clone are nothing alike. The time you spend rooting and vegging a clone you you would be further ahead starting from seed. A plant from seed will still mature as it grows and then flowers where the clone is going to go into flower without growing at all.

If you expect any kind of yield going 12/12 from clone I'd recommend growing them in a large soil bed and only spacing them about 4 inches apart. I've considered doing a grow like this myself but using feminized seeds 12/12 from the start and trimming down to single colas.
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yea thats exactly what im doing. Im squeezing 15 rooted clones into a 3x2 mixing tub. 3 tubs go under a 1000 watt light. The main advantage i can see is not having to veg for 5-7 weeks and rather just 10 days.
 
Lucius Vorenus said:
yea thats exactly what im doing. Im squeezing 15 rooted clones into a 3x2 mixing tub. 3 tubs go under a 1000 watt light. The main advantage i can see is not having to veg for 5-7 weeks and rather just 10 days.
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Sounds like a winner then! The only reason I'm sure more people don't do it is the difficulty getting that many clones, or the cost of that many feminized seeds. I'd like to see some pics of it as you go! I have several hundred of my own fem seeds and even though that's alot, this type of grow would blow thru my seed quickly. I don't have the moms or means to make that many clones either (I can do about 8 max). Although it is tempting!
 
lowblower said:
Gonna be doing some AK48 from nirvana femenised 12/12 from seed soon after my auto grow i got at the moment. Really in two minds about it though, Dels pics are making me say yes, but even as he says, he doesnt show the failures.

IN GENERAL, how much yeild do you guys pull off a 12/12 from seed grow per plant? I know autos are generally regarded as being about 1.5 ounces if your lucky, on a bog standard set up. Im talking about in soil, say about 3 gal containers. Around 250w light.

THANKS for any replies to this comment, its much much appreciated
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I've done the ak a few times and get about 2-3oz per plant but will say it needs a good cure to get the full flavour
 
Lucius Vorenus said:
once they popped roots out of the rockwool im vegging them in Coco beds for 10-15 days. That should be suffice yea?
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You're doing your own version of SOG ( Sea of Green ) basically flowering clones right away which works well when using flood tables. Your yields will be weak per plant but im sure you knew that, with that being said yeah as soon as you get roots you can start the flower just remember " the bigger the roots the bigger the fruit". I never done a SOG grow but I'm sure you can pull lots of info on SOG method. A 1000W HPS will give you a foot print of 4' x 4' or if you get a big ass hood like a Raptor or XXXL you can get a 5' x 5' footprint. I think doing 3 of those concrete tubs is too much per 1000W. Lots of good SOG threads on here.
 
Yeah you are trying to do your a tweaked version of SOG. Works well the whole point of it is to flower a lot of small plants that yield small, lots of small yielding plants will add up. Search Sea Of Green growing. i have seen grow rooms set up with coco beds. Are you using 100% coco or will you add some hydroton on the bottom for drainage??? I would do that if I were you. I never used concrete tubs but you can build flood tables if you are handy and can get a hold of liners. I have used 4' x 8' tables in the past and 4' x 4' hell I still have them in my garage. Sounds like you have the blue print down all you need to do is get to growing. I would seriously do half hydroton and half coco in the bed. You know coco is like a sponge.
 
I use a Peat based medium that is heavy in Perlite and do a zero runoff. Its all experimental right now. Ive been growing SOG for awhile and now want to see how it works if i trim 5 weeks off my veg time. We shall see
 
Lucius Vorenus said:
I use a Peat based medium that is heavy in Perlite and do a zero runoff. Its all experimental right now. Ive been growing SOG for awhile and now want to see how it works if i trim 5 weeks off my veg time. We shall see
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I'm not getting you, in SOG you flower as soon as clones get roots. You really dont veg just put the clone in the medium and flip the lights. You been doing SOG with 5 week veg times?
 
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