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OGEvilgenius

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what the fuck is the difference, s1 or not?
S1's are inbred. That means they are more likely to have mutations and other problems, even if done properly. There's a lot of good genetics articles on inbreeding out there, not necessarily cannabis related, but the same principles apply. You can find really special plants in these as well, but they definitely tend to have lost vigor as a sacrifice. Generally speaking regular seeds have a greater potential for truly amazing and special plants IMO due to the genetic diversity they offer compared to the alternative.

Ever heard of someone who had a seed just die for no apparent reason when the rest are thriving? People tend to think they did something wrong but aren't sure what. Usually that's actually a lethal recessive trait. Not the fault of the grower at all.

Hybrid vigor is another thing to consider, as I mentioned before. It's lost in F2's, F3's etc. I have theories about hybrid vigor, but I haven't read a lot on it. I do know it's a well accepted phenomenon in the scientific community, as well as the breeding community. You tend to get the positive traits to express themselves, the positive traits tend to be dominant evolutionarily speaking, and this especially includes rates of growth etc. This is my theory, but I'm not sure this is entirely the reason why. Genetics is a subject not fully understood.
 

jimdandy

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I notice that you seem to be attracted to older strains. Seems to me that more modern up to date strains have been bred for potency and yield. Do some searches on Kandy Kush, Pineapple Express, Sannies Kollosus and Killing Fields. There are quite a few more thats just a few. ive seen Amazing yields of hiphly potent smoke from some of these strains. I pulled almost a qp from Kandy Kush under a 250 hps! That shit was pure fire!!
 

Shaggn

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Looking for cashcrop. Almost a qp from a 250 is not a good yield, IMO. I'm sure it was pure fire tho :) You can't just call out for cash crop strains w/o knowing your growing process or style. Is it going to be grown outdoors into trees. Indoors 1000w in a 3x3 space and so on. Most strains you can achieve heavy yields as long as you know what style that strain strives in. In the end environment is the most important factor. Not to stray off topic but I found, The Church was a pretty good yielder in a SoG (lb - lb n half per 600 digi) Heavy nute eater aswell. Downfall with The Church is it has been said it can herm easily** Also heard most of the Bombs are pretty heavy yielders in the same fashion, although I can't say for sure yet! Hope you find something that works for you, Peace!!
 

homebrewer

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and one other strain i was lookin at was white russian, anyone grow that? also what did you think of the ak-47 grow?
A buddy of mine gave me a cut of WR to grow. It was very AK dominant in bud structure, yields, aroma and effect, though this particular cut didn't like to be topped. It's another solid option from SS.

As far as their Ak goes, just look at the awards that it's won and look at the awards it's still winning. It's a very stable, great yielding strain. It's a crowd pleaser.

My ak47 that will always have a space in my garden:

 

ziggaro

Active Member
What about sour diesel? Supposed to be a good yield and definitely top notch quality. Just need a little patience and a lot of odor control!
 

OGEvilgenius

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A buddy of mine gave me a cut of WR to grow. It was very AK dominant in bud structure, yields, aroma and effect, though this particular cut didn't like to be topped. It's another solid option from SS.

As far as their Ak goes, just look at the awards that it's won and look at the awards it's still winning. It's a very stable, great yielding strain. It's a crowd pleaser.

My ak47 that will always have a space in my garden:

Did the AK come from regular or feminized seed? Looks fantastic.
 

Shaggn

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Also to qualify for a CC it needs to have a short flower time. 8-9 weeks or less, with the heavy yield in mind :)
 

homebrewer

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Now that looks fruitylicous. What strain is this? Very nice btw :)
It was that AK47 male crossed to a purple strain I had. I was looking for some color in a new strain but also wanted some of that kick ak47 has. It doesn't meet my standards so I'm giving the clone to a friend. The high is actually kinda boring but she does look purdy and smells like a sour fruit bouquet.
 

Shaggn

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Looks nice nonetheless. Maybe the wrong male, try n try again. Gotta love the possibilites of a simple cross. Just keep trying n eventually all breeders stumble across a keeper. :)
 

IGTHY

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i was thinking more about ak47 actually, what do you guys/girls think about the strain? get any good yield? or i might do chronic, either or.. what u think?
I would go with the Chronic. I mean if you're looking for big colas...Chronic!!
 

arc tyler

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I notice that you seem to be attracted to older strains. Seems to me that more modern up to date strains have been bred for potency and yield. Do some searches on Kandy Kush, Pineapple Express, Sannies Kollosus and Killing Fields. There are quite a few more thats just a few. ive seen Amazing yields of hiphly potent smoke from some of these strains. I pulled almost a qp from Kandy Kush under a 250 hps! That shit was pure fire!!
i dont think it is that i want older strains, i would love newer strains but usually there isnt enough info i can grab off of them, i found these strains by looking through older posts for yield and potency, and i hear alot of those strains u mentioned dont yield nearly as much as say ak or ww or chronic, what would are you suggestions for a outdoor grow, just kandy?
 

themanwiththeplan

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i forget what breeder it is not off the top of my head but theres one on attitude that has strains all crossed with critical mass. thats a good starting point. the critical mass (as far as im aware) is big bud reworked (big yields) crossed with potent strains everyone loves (like sensi star, jack herer, etc) so id definitely take the time to check that out.
 

homebrewer

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wow. well you are an idiot noob. how do you think SELFED seeds come about? they come from HERMIE plants, a female that grows male gonads halfway through flower. NOT COMPLETE HORSESHIT you twit.
Actually, those male flowers are chemically induced. You might want to sit the next few plays out there, champ.
 
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