Senseimilla
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Yeah I need to get some isolated shots of my cheeses and see if anyone recognizes the pheno... i already killed the 'very sativa/goes hermie if you give it too much nutes' pheno 
Spicysativa's Cheese Quake Grow
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SpicySativa
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What's up nerds?
Back with a some pictures to go along with that update. So... I didn't do individual shots and plant #'s and all that jazz, but you'll notice the differences between the close ups.
Thinking less than a week til flower time. They have officially taken off since last time I looked at them (this morning). It's on...
On a totally unrelated note, today I played EMT and ambulance driver for an unfortunate Red-Tailed Hawk who got electrocuted on a power line. That was a very unusual, yet someone meaningful experience... I've always felt somehow connected with hawks and other birds of prey, however cheesy that might sound. I'm glad I was able to help one out. He got it pretty bad, but I'm pulling for him.
Back with a some pictures to go along with that update. So... I didn't do individual shots and plant #'s and all that jazz, but you'll notice the differences between the close ups.
Thinking less than a week til flower time. They have officially taken off since last time I looked at them (this morning). It's on...
On a totally unrelated note, today I played EMT and ambulance driver for an unfortunate Red-Tailed Hawk who got electrocuted on a power line. That was a very unusual, yet someone meaningful experience... I've always felt somehow connected with hawks and other birds of prey, however cheesy that might sound. I'm glad I was able to help one out. He got it pretty bad, but I'm pulling for him.
SpicySativa
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Quick question, if anyone happens to be stopping by...
I'm about ready to put my clones into soil, and begin training them as bonsai mother plants. Since they are going to be in this soil for (hopefully) a long time, I want to choose it wisely. I have Foc Farms Happy Frog and Roots Organics available. My gut is telling me that these little clones will be happier in the mellow Happy Frog, but it's a peat based soil, which I am not that fond of. My experience with Fox Farms Ocean Forrest was that it tended to form into a solid brick of hydrophobic crust by about mid flowering... Not sure if I'll have a similar experience with the Happy Frog... Roots just might be too hit...
What to do, what to do....
I'm about ready to put my clones into soil, and begin training them as bonsai mother plants. Since they are going to be in this soil for (hopefully) a long time, I want to choose it wisely. I have Foc Farms Happy Frog and Roots Organics available. My gut is telling me that these little clones will be happier in the mellow Happy Frog, but it's a peat based soil, which I am not that fond of. My experience with Fox Farms Ocean Forrest was that it tended to form into a solid brick of hydrophobic crust by about mid flowering... Not sure if I'll have a similar experience with the Happy Frog... Roots just might be too hit...
What to do, what to do....
Either roots or go with happy frog/ocean forest mixed bag to bag ratio.
SpicySativa
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Whats up nerds? Hope your Wednesday is treating you well.
I'm back with a few random pictures of the Cheese Quakes. Thinking just another few days of veg, then blast off....
For future reference.... Plant 1 is front right. Plant 2 is back right. Plant 3 is back left. Plant 4 is front left. Plant 2 and Plant 3 are the shorties, which quite similar. Plant 1 and Plant 4 are a little taller, but mostly similar to each other.
I'm back with a few random pictures of the Cheese Quakes. Thinking just another few days of veg, then blast off....
For future reference.... Plant 1 is front right. Plant 2 is back right. Plant 3 is back left. Plant 4 is front left. Plant 2 and Plant 3 are the shorties, which quite similar. Plant 1 and Plant 4 are a little taller, but mostly similar to each other.
The New Jim Jones
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i suck at training the heads, its all like a half inch apart in every direction,if even that, you seem to be training em pretty well though, cant wait to see them leaden with budth
Senseimilla
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Looking very nice! They look a lot like mine (except you did a better job of keeping'em compact and even 
)
One of mine in flower (the one in the big 5 gallon pot) has stem purpling... crossing fingers on purple cheese danish buds... tho mostly what i smell when I do a stem rub is a really funky cheese-weed smell more like funky gym socks sensi star than anything... but in a good way, not like the og kushes i grew that basically smelled like garbage (to me)
)One of mine in flower (the one in the big 5 gallon pot) has stem purpling... crossing fingers on purple cheese danish buds... tho mostly what i smell when I do a stem rub is a really funky cheese-weed smell more like funky gym socks sensi star than anything... but in a good way, not like the og kushes i grew that basically smelled like garbage (to me)
SpicySativa
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Mmm... Purple cheese Danish.........
I haven't got too much stem purpling, but some of the new growth has a pinkish purple tint at first, then goes green.
So far, Plant 1 seems to have the stankiest stem rub smell. Can't quite put a finger on what it is, but I like it.
I haven't got too much stem purpling, but some of the new growth has a pinkish purple tint at first, then goes green.
So far, Plant 1 seems to have the stankiest stem rub smell. Can't quite put a finger on what it is, but I like it.
Senseimilla
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Same here on the smell... no purple in any of my buds yet but it's still very early... most of the purple i've seen is on lower main branches... hoping it spreads 
Tho if it's a choice been purple or potency, i'll take potency every time...
in my opinion you should wait a few extra days than you are planning to flower them unless you don't have much height available... you'll get much better yields if you let'em go a week or two longer in veg from where they're at now. of course they'll also turn into beasts... but i like beasts
Tho if it's a choice been purple or potency, i'll take potency every time... in my opinion you should wait a few extra days than you are planning to flower them unless you don't have much height available... you'll get much better yields if you let'em go a week or two longer in veg from where they're at now. of course they'll also turn into beasts... but i like beasts
SpicySativa
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That's the thing... I DON'T have much height available. The inside dimensions of my cab are 4'x4'x6.5'. Factor in about a foot for the hood and mounting hardware, and another foot+ below the glass, and I've got about 4.5 feet to work with, including the pots.
The other thing I can't get away from is my last run of Pandoras Box... I vegged until the plants were about 16-18 inches tall after reading several places that Pandoras Box didn't stretch much. Within about 3 weeks of switching the lights, they had tripled in height, and grown way too wide. I managed to tie down the tops bringing them to about 42 inches (from top of soil) but they were just too huge. I ended up with root-bound, hermaphrodited beasts living in an overgrown larf jungle. My yield was absolutely piss poor, even if I were to count the piles upon piles of larf. One out of four produced a small amount of good smoke, the rest is riddled with crackly/sparky immature seeds. All 4 of them hermed...
I'm still new to growing plants from seed, because I am a Prop 215 patient with good access to clones. I'm not sure exactly what to take away from my Pandoras Box experience. I don't know where to point the blame finger on that one... Probably points to me, but not sure what went wrong. The cabinet is 100% lightproof and has not produced any other hermaphrodites in the past.
I know for DAMN SURE I don't want to repeat last round, so I am OK with under-vegging as long as the quality is there.
The other thing I can't get away from is my last run of Pandoras Box... I vegged until the plants were about 16-18 inches tall after reading several places that Pandoras Box didn't stretch much. Within about 3 weeks of switching the lights, they had tripled in height, and grown way too wide. I managed to tie down the tops bringing them to about 42 inches (from top of soil) but they were just too huge. I ended up with root-bound, hermaphrodited beasts living in an overgrown larf jungle. My yield was absolutely piss poor, even if I were to count the piles upon piles of larf. One out of four produced a small amount of good smoke, the rest is riddled with crackly/sparky immature seeds. All 4 of them hermed...
I'm still new to growing plants from seed, because I am a Prop 215 patient with good access to clones. I'm not sure exactly what to take away from my Pandoras Box experience. I don't know where to point the blame finger on that one... Probably points to me, but not sure what went wrong. The cabinet is 100% lightproof and has not produced any other hermaphrodites in the past.
I know for DAMN SURE I don't want to repeat last round, so I am OK with under-vegging as long as the quality is there.
Senseimilla
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Gotcha... well I definitely understand your caution, but it sounds more like a batch of unlucky seeds (maybe damaged in shipping/storage, bad plant they came from, who knows) than caused by your grow space. The only thing I've heard it said can definitely make some of sub's crosses herm is giving nute sensitive strains too much in the way of nutes... but shit happens too for all you know it was just bad storage, maybe they got irradiated in transit, bad breeding, something in the grow... but i doubt it was the height But can't hurt to go smaller and see what happens other than it's gonna cost you some yield.
Do you leave your light at the top of the grow box and let the plants grow up to it or keep it near the plant tops and adjust it up through flower? if you're keeping it at the top of the grow box that's probably why you're having stretch issues.... also how about heat? heat's known to make plants stretch in flower and high heat might not help on the herming either... could that be an issue?
But can't hurt to go smaller and see what happens other than it's gonna cost you some yield. Do you leave your light at the top of the grow box and let the plants grow up to it or keep it near the plant tops and adjust it up through flower? if you're keeping it at the top of the grow box that's probably why you're having stretch issues.... also how about heat? heat's known to make plants stretch in flower and high heat might not help on the herming either... could that be an issue?
SpicySativa
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I move the light just about every day to keep the distance optimal.
I think you're right... What happened last round was a total fluke.
Temps were steady at about 77*F lights on, 65-70*F lights off. Humidity was steady right around 45-50%. No light leaks. I've locked myself in the cab and chilled for about 10 minutes for my eyes to adjust. PURE BLACKNESS.
In my Pandoras Box grow log, one other RUI member mentioned that all his Pandoras hermed as well. For what it's worth...
I'm OK with yield suffering a bit. Hell, if I even pull a measly 1.5 oz off each of them I'll still blow away the yield from last batch...
Live and learn...
I think you're right... What happened last round was a total fluke.
Temps were steady at about 77*F lights on, 65-70*F lights off. Humidity was steady right around 45-50%. No light leaks. I've locked myself in the cab and chilled for about 10 minutes for my eyes to adjust. PURE BLACKNESS.
In my Pandoras Box grow log, one other RUI member mentioned that all his Pandoras hermed as well. For what it's worth...
I'm OK with yield suffering a bit. Hell, if I even pull a measly 1.5 oz off each of them I'll still blow away the yield from last batch...
Live and learn...
Senseimilla
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Sounds real good to me... my guess would be it was either an off batch in general or had bad conditions at some time before it got to you. Real glad i have not had that happen
1.5oz/plant is my goal yield for my small plants... they're only in 1.5 gallon airpots though hoping for more but will be happy with that.
1.5oz/plant is my goal yield for my small plants... they're only in 1.5 gallon airpots though
hoping for more but will be happy with that.
SpicySativa
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Yeah, I used to get 1-1.5 oz/clone out of 3-gallon pots when I was shoving 6 of them in a smaller cab under a 400 watt light. SHOULD be no problem blowing that away with 7-gal smart pots, more room, 600 watt light, and pretty ideal environment.
SpicySativa
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I can only hope that the Pandora issues weren't related to seed storage or transport. I picked these CQ beans up from the same dispensary...
Senseimilla
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Guess we'll find out...
Senseimilla
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just posted new pics of mine feel free to check'em
SpicySativa
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What's up nerds?
Time for a picture update. Today is day 56 of veg, and day 13 in the 7-gal smarties. I think I'm gonna give them another day or two of veg, then go 12/12... The two in front (Plant 1 right, Plant 4 left) are threatening to get BIG if I don't flower soon. Front one's are 14 inches tall and growing FAST, back ones are staying squat at about 11 inches, but still stacking up new nodes. I'd like to get the short ones at least to 12". I'm predicting needing to raise the shorties with blocks of some kind once I switch the lights.
Anyway, that's about I'll I've got to share this morning.
Time for a picture update. Today is day 56 of veg, and day 13 in the 7-gal smarties. I think I'm gonna give them another day or two of veg, then go 12/12... The two in front (Plant 1 right, Plant 4 left) are threatening to get BIG if I don't flower soon. Front one's are 14 inches tall and growing FAST, back ones are staying squat at about 11 inches, but still stacking up new nodes. I'd like to get the short ones at least to 12". I'm predicting needing to raise the shorties with blocks of some kind once I switch the lights.
Anyway, that's about I'll I've got to share this morning.
Huel Perkins
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Looking good, I'm interested to see what they do in the first two weeks of flowering. I finally got around to taking clones off my Cheesequake mother the other day, I could smell a slight grape aroma just from taking some cuts!
SpicySativa
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Nice. Have you flowered it before, or is it a seed momma you haven't tried yet?