Weedz b Baked
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Looks like the Mobius Stereo Matrix.
B.H.O is in the House!!
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Danksnaps420
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dope. lets see some pics
gladstoned
Well-Known Member
Sitting here, watching Tiger playoff game, smoking some of your BHO with a patient. Thank You. I will save some to try against your new method.
Rare D MI
New Member
you're welcome. should be exactly the same. the vac purge unit just cuts the time it takes me to finish my process by like 60%. Can go from packed tube, to the form you got it in, in about 4-5 hours now instead of 12-15.
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
Vac purge is the only way. Did you make that chamber?
My process after ii spray it and the hot water did its job makes it shatter in about an hour or so.
Toaster oven for 30 min then back and forth in the vac chamber from the oven.
My process after ii spray it and the hot water did its job makes it shatter in about an hour or so.
Toaster oven for 30 min then back and forth in the vac chamber from the oven.
Rare D MI
New Member
Nope, I didn't make it. Someone pretty local did though. A friend hooked it up with everything I needed to get going. Have a handheld brake bleed pump too incase I want to make some honeycomb wax. Right now I dig the slabs of budder/wax I finish it into. To me shatter doesn't feel done yet. I get to shatter in an hour or less too, it's the time after that to get to the wax.
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
Budder is just whipping it. I turn budder into shatter. Budder is less stable. Shatter is like a piece of candy. I can pick it up with my hand. I can make budder without doing anything after the bath but whipping. No purge necessary. I made budder a few years ago. But I've been making shatter since I made "correct" shatter. Not just oily soupy clear shit. Actual jolly rancher hard chunks of errl. But the budder vs shatter thing is way past debating. Search google and find 10000s of arguments. Usually gurus arguing with newBs. It's stupid. I'll smoke whatever. Just prefer to make shatter. Shatter That is a step past budder form. Not the form before budder. That's not shatter. That's crude.
Weedz b Baked
Active Member
Truth ^
From experience, wax sucks. Not all wax sucks but out of the maybe 10 times I've purchased wax from a club I thought every time that it was really mediocre if not bad. I've never experienced a wax/budder to give a punch of flavor like shatter has.
Maybe I shouldn't judge everything on flavor and harshness but imo it just seems like the stuff that has less flavor or is more harsh would be more harmful to ingest?
Anyways.. here's a pic of some White Widow that I made into some oil. Taste like berries
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
They call it wax because it has paraffin wax from the tane in it. Budder is ok when it's fresh. But week or two later of being in a dish it crumbles. Shatter stays the same for months.
Do a dab test. Dab .3 of wax and wait 10 minutes. Then dab .3 of shatter that was made correctly. Not sap. Shatter. Hard and able to be put in a glass jar without sticking. Looks like amber glass shards. That shit is wicked.
Do a dab test. Dab .3 of wax and wait 10 minutes. Then dab .3 of shatter that was made correctly. Not sap. Shatter. Hard and able to be put in a glass jar without sticking. Looks like amber glass shards. That shit is wicked.
HomeLessBeans
New Member
Yours was the best I have ever had. Period. Your method produced the best Glad has had I believe.
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
"The difference between shatter and budder is retaining an amorphous solid and not allowing wax crystallization to entrap gas and moisture. This achieved with thin films of resin and mild heat to polymerize the resin before the waxes can crystallize. This amorphous substrate entraps the native terpenes where as in budder they are more entrapped in the micro-crystalline wax matrix.So the actual difference in the two is not any inherent quantitative measure but rather a qualitative. In vaping the amorphous solid naturally occurring terpenes remain dehydrated by and large and retain expectorating properties. In Budders they are exposed to air and moisture altering their expectorant abilities. The waxes are also whipped to entrain air and crystallize them to create the texture , this changes drastically the way they vaporize and the net product of same are also far more oxidized than when entrapped in a homogenous and amorphous solid.
The net result is that budder and shatter are both raw gums and to eliminate the semi-toxic and irritating waxes is by making and using absolutes( actually Pure gum resin). If one is really after terpene flavors then the CWE of pure trichomes is the best delivery of natural cannabis terpenes. For sustained and exclusive extract use pure gum resin is preferred despite the low flavor and thus low terpene profile" Guru Jim.
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
Read this thread...
http://www.tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=33208&highlight=shatter+budder
http://www.tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=33208&highlight=shatter+budder
Rare D MI
New Member
Dude a thread on toke city is not gonna change my mind. I have made lbs of bho in the last few years. I know my process and the debates and theories.
I think absolute amber is a waste for medicinal purposes, because you're stripping waxes away that contain beneficial terpenes that aide in the delivery of THC and cbd. Its not all parafins. I will take my wax that smells and tastes like exactly like the material it was extracted from, over some stripped of all character so you can see through it.. I took pics last night of some abusive OG straight out of the vac chamber as shatter, and then what it looks like after it waxes up. My opinion is, if you wanna be lazy and have a hard time manipulating your product, make shatter, if you want to make the best, most medicinal oil possible, that is also way easier to handle and dab, make it wax.
I think absolute amber is a waste for medicinal purposes, because you're stripping waxes away that contain beneficial terpenes that aide in the delivery of THC and cbd. Its not all parafins. I will take my wax that smells and tastes like exactly like the material it was extracted from, over some stripped of all character so you can see through it.. I took pics last night of some abusive OG straight out of the vac chamber as shatter, and then what it looks like after it waxes up. My opinion is, if you wanna be lazy and have a hard time manipulating your product, make shatter, if you want to make the best, most medicinal oil possible, that is also way easier to handle and dab, make it wax.
dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
Not here to argue. Just inform. Don't worry. A lot of people still make wax. And I still smoke it. But when I get it I heat it into shatter. It's 1 extra step. How do you turn shatter into budder? With the vac chamber? Because I have one of those too.
what do you do after its shatter(not sap) to make it budder? I have 23g of shatter I'm willing to try your tech with a little to see what your talking about.
what do you do after its shatter(not sap) to make it budder? I have 23g of shatter I'm willing to try your tech with a little to see what your talking about.
Rare D MI
New Member
How are you not understanding? It's shatter first. My extra step turns it to wax. I turn it to wax or budder by manipulating it after. I had straight shatter from the abusive in 2 1/2 hours from raw material to shatter coming out of the vac chamber. It was beautiful looking, but it took another 3 hours on a heating pad after that to get to the consistency I like. Making bho is like being a chef, yu just react to it during the process. Some oil auto waxes. Depends on the strain.
