My vert grow day 31 flower

itztimetogrow3696

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Oh my lord jesus mother of God how many plants do you have? And what type of light is that? Emitting the purple glow..sorry noob question?
 

Senseimilla

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Ayup... my current goal is for each of those 2 shelves to pull 2 LB/month... won't happen this round as I didn't veg the plants big enough... but ultimately goal is 4 plants each shelf @ 4oz each, so 8 plants per set of shelves = 2lbs :) Timing one set of shelves for harvest per month. I don't think I'm gonna hit my goal until spring though as the plants for that goal are just now in the pipeline. 19 female cuts in the dome, 5 in veg upstairs, 10 seeds jus twent into germ last night... it's gonna get busy in here :)

Oh, I've also got 4 32-watt 48" T8 desert level (10.0) UVB bulbs that should arrive later this week... each shelf is going to have it's own UVB flos... top shelf will have it hanging right above/inside, bottom shelf will be mounted from the floor to the bottom/mid canopy level shining up/in.
 

itztimetogrow3696

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Only,.... Lol your sitting over there with 21 plants and im over here wishing I had one. :/ oh well eventually ill get there lol. and holy fuck dude thats so much weed, at the rate you are talking about your going to have like six pounds at the start of the new year, I dont even knoe what I would do with all that. lol +rep dude
 

InsaneMJ

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So wait let me get this straight. You think your gonna pull 4 zips a plant?? How long is this veg cycle? And second led's aren't that penatrating, 4 zips each is a little too much to expect IMO. By all means I wanna see it go down. But I highly doubt you can get there running led's an a co2 supply. My heaviest yielding plant on average hits 2lbs a 1000 watt. But I'm actually moving to the stadium set up like yours. Bar my peak would be around 4p's a light. That's if everything is perfect. Have you done led's before and hit 4 zips a plant?
 

Senseimilla

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Not from the group in this room... they were not vegged long enough and are in too small of pots. I expect I can get that much in the 2.4 & 3.6 gallons in supersoil that are well vegged going in next round -- and yes, I've done 4 zips in 2.4 gallons with super soil under JUST the 240w LEDs... so I expect I'll definitely get at least that with a 600w HPS and extra CFLs on top.... I'm also thinking the supersoil (which i'm not using this time) had a big impact on those excellent yields last time... not using super soil on the ones in these pics as I didn't have any available.

This batch was thrown in too early since I haven't had a crop going for a few months and needed them harvested before christmas... and the pots are too small to get that much per plant.
 

InsaneMJ

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Not that I doubt it, but I'd like to see it to believe it first. Wet weight doesn't count ;) jk lol
How many plants were you runnin when you hit your "4 oz" plant under the led's.
Imo your have to throw the 6 on top, but then that's cheating you wouldn't be using strictly led's to get the 4 zip plants. Which was my point in the first place. I've seen plenty of led gardens to know they dont yield good.
 

InsaneMJ

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None the less I dig the garden, nice clean set up for sure. Ima be starting a thread soon, I shoot ya a link when it's up.
 

Senseimilla

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How many of those were growing in super soil? :) Either way, just said that's a goal, not guaranteeing it will happen. For these I'm hoping for at least 1.5oz each. I don't even bother doing wet weights (wet weight don't mean shit!) The plants that ended up being 4oz were 2 plants per 240w lights first half of flower, then 1 light each 2nd half. The ones that yielded just under or over 4oz were branchy mofos with lots of colas.

Because you've seen some people who don't get optimal results under LED doesn't mean it can't be done.

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InsaneMJ

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And this is without other light sources strictly led's? Because I can pull out my plants from a thousand watt and put it under a led for 3 days an be like this is led grown lol..

Nice colas thou for sure.
 

Senseimilla

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Yes, all just LED light and nothing else -- and cheap blackstars no less. Like I said, I put it down more to the airpots and supersoil for getting those kinds of yields more than the light. Super soil is the shit. I got 2 oz off a plant just over 1' tall in the same crop that I thought i'd get 1-1.5oz on tops

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Here's those previous plants under the LEDs.
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just mixed up a new batch of super soil today for the next group of girls to go into flower :)

This plant transplanted (next group - still 3-4 weeks veg before going to flower room) into 5g airpot + super soil = 4 oz easily:
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GrowinTheDank

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Do you use this recipe for your super soil??

http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/how/article/medical-hydroponics-marijuana-supersoil-recipe-tips-january-2012
People offer supersoil recipes that suggest a pound of this and a cup of that, or other ways of showing you amounts and ratios of ingredients. For example, here's a supersoil recipe from TGA seed breeder and marijuana author Subcool:

8 large bags of a high-quality organic potting soil with coco fiber and mycorrhizae. This is your "base" soil.
25 to 50 lbs of organic worm castings
5 lbs steamed bone meal
5 lbs Bloom bat guano
5 lbs blood meal
3 lbs rock phosphate
¾ cup Epson salts
½ cup sweet lime (dolomite)
½ cup azomite (trace elements)2 tbsp powdered humic acid

Instead of this type of per pound measurement specification, and based on the art and science I've seen GrowDaddy use as he mixes supersoil, I’m using a measurment fomula in which I say "X parts of this and Z parts of that," so you can make this process work for the amount of soil you need.

Here’s what GrowDaddy recommends:

* Three parts peat-based soil base such as Pro-Mix HP or Sunshine Mix #4.

*Two parts Roots Organic, Fox Farm Ocean Forest or similar organic "whole" soil mix.

* One part aged compost. Don’t use manure compost or fresh compost. Only use compost from an organic source you can trust.

* One part earthworm castings. Again, sourcing and age is important.

* An eighth to one quarter part blood meal, rock phosphate, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, greensand, guano from fruit-eating bats, and steamed bone meal.Go organic whenever possible. A good source for many supersoil components can be found here.


* One eighth to one sixteenth part azomite, Epsom salts, and dolomitic lime. Of these three, the lime is of special importance because it raises soil pH, which is often necessary as a counter to acidic pH that might occur in your raw custom mix. Adjusting the pH of your supersoil is crucial, whether it needs to be raised or lowered. Soil pH changes over time, so intermittent monitoring is useful. Try to keep your soil around 6-6.5 pH.


* Two parts large-grain perlite or vermiculite (for drainage). You may have to adjust this component to ensure easy water pour-through, but you don’t want too much porosity or your mix won’t hold enough water. The porosity you give your mix depends on your grow room situation, especially your humidity control, how you water (hand-watering versus drip irrigation, for example) and other factors affecting root zone moisture content.
And what are you usin for nutes??
 

Senseimilla

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Yeah I use that recipe except I sometimes substitute peruvian seabird guano pellets & crab shell meal for the bone/blood meal (works out to about the same ratios combined)

For the current batch pictured everything in the small pots is plain soil & pure blend & pure blend pro nutes. The bigger pots have a little bit of amendments added to the soil but not super soil.
 
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