Sudden problems? Water ph testing! Nutrient lockout? Advice needed :3

cannabineer

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This thread has developed sudden problems. I am loath to call names, but the term "flushing to remedy a dolt buildup" is more than I can resist. cn
 
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VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO said:
it's stupid and pointless, I'm only trolling you because your advise sucks
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It is cool....If mine sucks then Cannabineers sucks too according to you but I think his advice is spot on so w/e, All I have to do is block negative people like you. Peace out troll Masta!
 
cannabineer

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I'll tell you this ... I hope mine doesn't suck. The final judges will be sailormoon's plants. All else is ... style, to use the polite word. cn
 
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Anyway, Sailormoon. Flush your plants whenever, With Regular or Ph'ed water, It doesn't ,matter, Your soil will buffer either of them. The sooner the better. Main point is to clear our built up salts and not mess with your already fine PH. In the future if it ever happens again you can always get a cheap Flushing solution too that is made to unbind salts from the soil and roots.
 
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cannabineer said:
I'll tell you this ... I hope mine doesn't suck. The final judges will be sailormoon's plants. All else is ... style, to use the polite word. cn
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I tried to see where you recommended a p.h of 7.6? I didn't see it, so, it is only the other dude with the bad advise. But if you want to be lumped in with him?
 
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I am off to bed. I have to get up at 4AM and start driving to Long Beach for the Maximum Yield Indoor Garden Expo :D YAY! I am going to learn as much as I can and bring back a car full of free nutes and shirts :P

P.S. Good luck Flushing, I hope they get better
 
cannabineer

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VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO said:
I tried to see where you recommended a p.h of 7.6? I didn't see it, so, it is only the other dude with the bad advise. But if you want to be lumped in with him?
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You're right; I didn't recommend it. I did say and do think that the water as supplied is fine ... for her soil. If I were using that water in soilless, hydro or anywhere else unbuffered, i would of course adjust the nutrient's final pH or, if just watering, knock it just below 7.
In a bicarb buffer system, however, that also involves some aeration and a readjustment.

... But as this is soil and a fairly "sour" one at that, the bit of alkalinity in her water is a feature, not a bug. Jmo. cn
 
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cannabineer said:
You're right; I didn't recommend it. I did say and do think that the water as supplied is fine ... for her soil. If I were using that water in soilless, hydro or anywhere else unbuffered, i would of course adjust the nutrient's final pH or, if just watering, knock it just below 7.
In a bicarb buffer system, however, that also involves some aeration and a readjustment.

... But as this is soil and a fairly "sour" one at that, the bit of alkalinity in her water is a feature, not a bug. Jmo. cn
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I'm gonna bet she has a high ph water to start, then adds nutes without adjusting ph and raising it even higher.JMO
 
cannabineer

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VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO said:
I'm gonna bet she has a high ph water to start, then adds nutes without adjusting ph and raising it even higher.JMO
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Agreed on the first. However, since her nutes are a garden-variety plant food probably containing monobasic phosphate, I'll wager that the addition of food drops the pH to some extent.

sailormoon, your life would be easier with instrumentation. A good TDS and pH meter is something I'd recommend, assuming it's in the budget. It's hard to do diagnosis and remediation without one. Not impossible, but I've found them invaluable in my grows. Jmo. cn
 
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cannabineer said:
Agreed on the first. However, since her nutes are a garden-variety plant food probably containing monobasic phosphate, I'll wager that the addition of food drops the pH to some extent.

sailormoon, your life would be easier with instrumentation. A good TDS and pH meter is something I'd recommend, assuming it's in the budget. It's hard to do diagnosis and remediation without one. Not impossible, but I've found them invaluable in my grows. Jmo. cn
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Now that is good advise.
 
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cannabineer said:
Agreed on the first. However, since her nutes are a garden-variety plant food probably containing monobasic phosphate, I'll wager that the addition of food drops the pH to some extent.

sailormoon, your life would be easier with instrumentation. A good TDS and pH meter is something I'd recommend, assuming it's in the budget. It's hard to do diagnosis and remediation without one. Not impossible, but I've found them invaluable in my grows. Jmo. cn
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Oh yea Def....I used to use PH drops....but some nutes are really dark and make it hard to read or affect the water color....so It was hard to PH the water...then I got a cheap PH meter and BAM! Slaps a number on it....made my life so much easier....also My dad had an old tds meter from when he frist got his R/O system so I took his and now all I do is stick the TDS meter in the water and add nutes until I like the TDS and there is no guessing or following those stupid charts the companies give you.


It is so much easier when there are visible numbers slapped on things like Salt content and PH
 
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